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Nalod
Posts: 71155 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
![]() Shump is "the corey brewer experience"?
Don't fret until the opening tip regarding the roster. |
islesfan
Posts: 9999 Alba Posts: 37 Joined: 7/19/2004 Member: #712 |
![]() nixluva wrote:This kid was a top steals man in the draft with nearly 3 stls per game. He's got great speed and lateral quickness. Sure he's not a true PG, but he can guard 1-3 for sure and that's the big deal. We need a guy like him that is versatile and skilled. He's better than TD at passing and he's BIG! No PG is gonna abuse him like TD. He can help this team defensively and that's a good thing. TD sucks, why are you using him as the standard? What is his role on offense? If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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BasketballJones
Posts: 31973 Alba Posts: 19 Joined: 7/16/2002 Member: #290 USA |
![]() As Bob Marley said....
"I a man iration yeah! Irie ites." https://
It's not so hard.
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
![]() islesfan wrote:nixluva wrote:This kid was a top steals man in the draft with nearly 3 stls per game. He's got great speed and lateral quickness. Sure he's not a true PG, but he can guard 1-3 for sure and that's the big deal. We need a guy like him that is versatile and skilled. He's better than TD at passing and he's BIG! No PG is gonna abuse him like TD. He can help this team defensively and that's a good thing. The kid is gonna most likely play SG and a little PG as well since he can pass too and has great handle. He's got great quickness and agility for a guard his size and weight. This vid is from game action and includes other players, but there is some great stuff on Iman in this one. |
islesfan
Posts: 9999 Alba Posts: 37 Joined: 7/19/2004 Member: #712 |
![]() nixluva wrote: So we should all be comfortable handing the reigns of the offense to this kid based on some youtube highlight clips??? I'm still waiting for anybody to explain what his role is on offense. If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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WOODMANnYk
Posts: 22417 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/30/2002 Member: #529 USA |
![]() It's about time Donnie got it right in teh 1st round. I am sold with this pick. He went for a perimeter defender..
The Future. GO KNICKS!
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
![]() islesfan wrote:nixluva wrote: Let me get this straight. You're gonna bitch about the Knicks taking the best defensive guard in the draft? Iman avg'd 3 stls and 6 rebs a game! What is it you have against him. He's a SG/PG and on this team you don't have to worry about him cuz he could play next to TD and let TD be the scorer he is rather than trying to run the offense. He could start next to Billups as the SG too. He's a better penetrator than Fields. |
VCoug
Posts: 24935 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/28/2007 Member: #1406 |
![]() What I've seen and read of this guy, he sounds a little like a poor man's Igoudala. That's not bad at all, though I my heart will always belong to Faried.
Now the joy of my world is in Zion
How beautiful if nothing more
Than to wait at Zion's door
I've never been in love like this before
Now let me pray to keep you from
The perils that will surely come
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
![]() VCoug wrote:What I've seen and read of this guy, he sounds a little like a poor man's Igoudala. That's not bad at all, though I my heart will always belong to Faried. I just didn't see where Faried would fit here. If he's not a C then I think it's hard to fit him in. |
AnubisADL
Posts: 27382 Alba Posts: 13 Joined: 6/29/2009 Member: #2771 USA |
![]() Im not even mad at the pick at this point. We have Melo and Amare so it's whatever.
Let's hope for Chris Paul summer 2012. NY Knicks - Retirement home for players and GMs
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VCoug
Posts: 24935 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/28/2007 Member: #1406 |
![]() nixluva wrote:VCoug wrote:What I've seen and read of this guy, he sounds a little like a poor man's Igoudala. That's not bad at all, though I my heart will always belong to Faried. Chuck Hayes is only 6'6" and he plays center. Also, I would hope that Amare's minutes would be reduced to 30-32/game and Faried would be able to pick up the rest. All of that is meaningless now though, I'm very intrigued by Shumpert and am very interested in watching him play, though I think he'll only play point for short stretches. Now the joy of my world is in Zion
How beautiful if nothing more
Than to wait at Zion's door
I've never been in love like this before
Now let me pray to keep you from
The perils that will surely come
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Olbrannon
Posts: 21913 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 10/2/2009 Member: #2919 USA |
![]() islesfan wrote:nixluva wrote: This fella did get accepted to Ga Tech. Last I heard dumb***es don't get in. (Does he challenge Landry to a game of chess?) Though there is AI I guess. He'll be fine. With TD that would be a very fast backcourt. Bill Simmons on Tyreke Evans
"The prototypical 0-guard: Someone who handles the ball all the time, looks for his own shot, gets to the rim at will and operates best if his teammates spread the floor to watch him."
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Vmart
Posts: 31800 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/23/2002 Member: #247 USA |
![]() This kid is Sprewell when he came out of Alabama. Know for his defense not the offense but Spree developed his offensive game believe it or not Shumpert is ahead of Spree in that aspect.
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islesfan
Posts: 9999 Alba Posts: 37 Joined: 7/19/2004 Member: #712 |
![]() Olbrannon wrote: Shutup and get in the truck. If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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knickstorrents
Posts: 21121 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/23/2010 Member: #3050 Hong Kong |
![]() islesfan wrote:nixluva wrote: I would say to start, have him pick and roll without the ball with chauncey around the 3 point line. He can either take the elbow jumper or drive to the basket (this is only if melo and stoudemore are out). This allows him to take a shot similar to a free throw if it's there, and allows him to use his finishing ability if the lane is open. Otherwise, he needs to extend his range to 3 point land in order to work with Melo and Stoudemire. See, having 2 max contracts in players that aren't great passers makes it difficult on the rest of your team. Rose is not the answer.
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MaTT4281
Posts: 34877 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #538 USA |
![]() Walsh defends precarious decision on Shumpert |
nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
![]() From the way this breaks down, you can see that it makes a difference when you add a wing that can cover a lot of ground on defense. I was pleasantly surprised with Shawne W. defense and so we're starting to build a team with more capable defenders on it. I don't know if they intend to bring Brown back, but I would guess so and he's another young player with good defensive potential.
As a team we block a ton of shots, we just didn't stop enough penetration in the 1st place and we didn't get rebounds. Iman is a good defender and like Fields is a good rebounding guard too. Iman's 6 rebs a game is great for a guard. |
BigDaddyG
Posts: 39877 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
![]() nixluva wrote:From the way this breaks down, you can see that it makes a difference when you add a wing that can cover a lot of ground on defense. I was pleasantly surprised with Shawne W. defense and so we're starting to build a team with more capable defenders on it. I don't know if they intend to bring Brown back, but I would guess so and he's another young player with good defensive potential. Yeah, and the kid can push the rock too. Billups is old and it probably isn't a good idea too ask him too push the pull at every opportunity. Of course, I have to mention that Shumpert's scouting report does sound awfully similar too Jamison Brewer's report when he was drafted by the Pacers in 2001. I hope their careers don't turn out the same. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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