1) they would help a team in another conference
2) NO would gain 2 picks and possibly look to rebuild if Chris Paul, which i think will pull another Melo next year.

a combination of players like

Ariza
Carl Laundry
Jack

Aaron Gray
Bellini

would add to the Bulls depth

With West's injury and the chance of Paul leaving, I think NO will eventually go in rebuilding mode.

imagine Bynum/Arest for Cp3/Ok4 after...

AnubisADL wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

RonRon wrote:
I agree Samuel Dalembert is possibly the best center that we can target for free agency. He is a center that can run up and down, long, lanky, and athletic. Would be a huge upgrade and will help our rebounding, defensive presence, shot blocking, and team defense. However, we won't be the only team targeting him. Every team especially playoff contenders can use his talents and if the CBA still has the MLE. Now for Sammmies perspective, it would be for 2 reason. Money and a Championship opportunity. While I would love to add him, we just cant say he is a player that will sign with us. Would he go to a team that would offer him more money or the best chance at a ring? Or somewhat in between?
Literally almost EVERY team could use him....

Boston
Heat
Bulls
OKC
Orlando
Knicks

I agree that it's far from certain Sammy would sign here, but he's not going to get the opportunity to start in Chicago, OKC, or Orlando.

Keeping my fingers crossed that the MLE sticks around in the new CBA, Sammy would be a nice fit here if we can get it done.

Miami Heat are already targeting Dalemabert as their "Tyson Chandler"

I don't doubt it, and unless Dalmbert really loves NY like our ever credible, unbiased NY media tells us, they have to be the front-runners.

Hoping he does want to be here though.

That's where Dalembert comes in. According to a source, Dalembert likely would choose the Knicks if their offer is comparable with any others.

Dalembert has strong New York-area ties. He played his senior year of high school at St. Patrick's in Elizabeth, N.J., before heading to Seton Hall. An avid fundraiser for Haiti's economic plight, he also likes the visibility of being a voice for New York's large Haitian population.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/sights_on_samuel_4cHTQNXaQO4R6rrCC30unI#ixzz1PTBXUs7x

Ya, ya, I know..."a source".

RonRon wrote:If we were able to get a 2nd pick, I just don't see it being a 1st rounder or high 2nd rounder.
I wonder what we can get for Fields/Walker/Rautins. I am not interested in trading TD for anything if we can't obtain a player we really like that would probably be in Chicago's range. TD can be a special player, he can be a 6th man type role between Barbosa and Terry with better D, but not as good driving and mid range shot. He has time to develop and he already has 2 years under Dantoni. He has experience with the Garden and NYC already and I see a role for him in the future of the team, unlike Fields.

I just see Fields as a tweener between a SG/SF. He can of course improve but his contract ends after this year. If I can get a early 2nd round pick for him and some of the players above are still there, I will bite. Unlike TD who has 3 more years left on his rookie contract, he has 1 more. I am looking to complete building the team by next summer and Fields would take away from our FA salary signing power IF he does improve....

I am not about to hold his playoff performance against a rookie who started the entire season. Fields is the one (among those two) who can be a special role player (a.k.a. "glue" guy), whereas TD has demonstrated a high capacity for knucklehead moves and momentum killing. I'd rather keep a guy who led the NBA in rebounds his rookie season from the 2 spot than a guy who turned the ball over repeatedly at the1 while being a very streaky shooter.

EwingsGlass wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Probballdraft Probasketballdraft
@thenyknicks are very active trying to get last minute prospects in for workouts. NY brass is confident they can trade up to get a target

Must be packaging Fields and the pick.

I really hope they don't give up Fields to have a chance at Jimmer. Dude has bust written all over him.

EwingsGlass wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Probballdraft Probasketballdraft
@thenyknicks are very active trying to get last minute prospects in for workouts. NY brass is confident they can trade up to get a target

Must be packaging Fields and the pick.

I wouldn't doubt that but it could also be Douglas, or even Bill Walker (though that would more than likely be for a late first or second.)
If management see's a guy that is better than Fields or Douglas, plays the same position, is better than who we would get at 17, then we have to consider the move. The problem is first, Douglas was playing hurt (outside of his sometimes stupid play) and second, Fields might be special. As others have said before, we can't discount what he did for many months by the end of the year fall - quite typical for a rookie, especially when he played so many minutes. (If you have ever played anything tired you know how it really drops your game.)

Really excited about this draft, as usual, but now more is riding on it considering we don't have a pick next year, not to mention a probable long lockout.

nixluva wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:I prefer we just stay at 17 than trade what little assets we have for a "prospect". That includes Freddette.

You can't really say that without inside knowledge of just how good the player has shown himself to be. We know how good Fields is, but at the same time he's a role player and we'd be looking to add a potential 1st rd star. I don't know exactly what the Knicks might be thinking but if this is true, I really wouldn't have a problem with it. We've got the draft, possible signing of Jordan and a FA Market to use to build up the team.

Im not a big workout guy beyond seeing how athletic guys are. Plenty of draft picks have looked great in workouts and not so nice on the court.

Plus this draft is weak as hell. At least we know Douglas and Fields are serviceable.

AnubisADL wrote:I prefer we just stay at 17 than trade what little assets we have for a "prospect". That includes Freddette.

I agree, if there were a big man that the Knicks were interested in who looked promising that might be something else. That's more of a pressing need for the Knicks.

nixluva wrote:I still don't get the fear about Fredette. He's not too short for a combo guard. He's not too weak. He has a great handle with either hand, creates his own shot better than just about any other PG in the draft. 68% of his offense he creates himself. He's quick and agile and he's smart. He can shoot the 3 and the midrange off the dribble jumper. I think that he is made for the NBA. He's not a high jumper but that's not the end all be all for a PG. Why should he be a bust? The Kid's a leader and a tough minded kid.

There are other players in this draft that I like so it's no big deal to me whether we get Jimmer or not. I just don't agree that he's a risk to be a bust.

I would love to get a guard who can defend, distribute and score/shoot. I think Fredette is ideal here, really. He can play defense now because he isn't expending himself on offense the whole game. He can handle the ball and you know he can distribute it, the guy is just too intelligent of a player. At first I thought he was more of a novelty, but I really think he might be the perfect guard for us.

I do think we will do whatever it takes to draft him by moving up.