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CBA..anyone else opposed to getting rid of gauranteed contracts
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Olbrannon
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6/15/2011  7:44 PM
AnubisADL wrote:The problem with incentives is you start having guys looking out for numero uno and not the team.

It's all smoke and mirrors anyways. Let's tie the incentives to the playoffs. Making it gets you 20K each player. Winner first round gets 50k/player 2nd round winners get 250k/player, Champs get a mill per/player MVP's voted by team and coaches get extra's. Now you have team oriented goals and lavish money on those 4th quarter free throws. Get to see whose knees buckle ;-)

Cut back top money to 12 mill per/player Heavily fund the retirement fund and medical for former players.

While wishing add a heavy investment by owners into sports medicine with special emphasis on concussions and spinal injuries.

Bill Simmons on Tyreke Evans "The prototypical 0-guard: Someone who handles the ball all the time, looks for his own shot, gets to the rim at will and operates best if his teammates spread the floor to watch him."
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BigDaddyG
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6/15/2011  8:29 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:The problem with incentives is you start having guys looking out for numero uno and not the team.

Make it tied to the +/- in some way as well. As well ad number of wins produced per minutes plied or something like that.

anything beats paying a fat lard 10 mill to $10 work


+/- is to quirky a statistic to base player performance. Remember how everybody was dogging Durant last season because the team's +/- was lower when he was on the court. While it can be useful, it also depends too much on a coach's rotation's, the other players on the court, the opposing team's scheme, etc. I agree with y2zipper on this. Owners and GMs are really the ones to blame for these stupid contracts. I mean c'mon, was Isiah under any type of gun to sign Curry to that deal? Was Joe Johnson really going to go elsewhere for less money last season? Is Mike Conley worth $8 million a year? The answer to all these question is no. Yet, some of these owner can't seem to control themselves when a bad contract comes their way.
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joec32033
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6/16/2011  6:11 AM
I don't think you can tie it to anything. It complicates things considerably. I think the easiest approach is to just let buyouts of contracts immediately come off the salary structure of your team. As in if player x is bought out with 2 years left on his contract it no longer counts on your cap figure. If you cut a player his salary counts 50% towards your cap that season and is removed whenever contracts role over for the next year.

I think arbitrary stats like +/- or per or whatever you want to use is never gonna fly in a contract negotiation. Even current standards and ethics clauses in contracts are a major hassle to enforce. How do you prove Eddy Curry didn't perform up to Eddy Curry's standard? You can't. Plus if you ever use something like that it sends a bad message to other players. It should be about lessening the hit not removing it.

Maybe a clause that permits the release of one contract per team every year or two-kinda like a reverse MLE- would help also. The key to that being every team gets to use it not just over the cap teams.

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CBA..anyone else opposed to getting rid of gauranteed contracts

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