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DrAlphaeus
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6/14/2011  11:49 PM
There was another Times article that talked about the whole Israel thing turning into a disaster, and also how he was dating Eazy E's daughter at the time and some thought her and her mom were a bad influence... I wonder if he's still dating her. He was on the outs with his father... it was an embarrassing article after they had just earlier lauded him as part of a new movement from high school to pros along with Brandon Jennings. So sounds like this guy had to do a lot of growing up very quickly. This guy may be a way to make up for the Jennings mistake, haha.

I just worry that isn't much of a teacher to get the most out of this guy. But that's actually a big reason why I like Billups: I think he can really set that veteran tone in the locker room from camp to playoffs (God willing). Who is our big man coach, Herb? Can we get him masterclasses with Olajuwon, Ewing & Dikembe?

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6/15/2011  1:30 AM
I'm actually sold on him now too... considering he fits a need. Mostly beause of this article:

Tyler's maturity (and game) might fit Knicks
June, 15, 2011
By Jared Zwerling

GREENBURGH, N.Y. -- Knicks draft prospect Jeremy Tyler, who made national headlines in 2009 for skipping his senior year of high school to play professionally overseas, impressed GMs at Chicago's NBA draft combine in mid-May with his interviews.

Last Monday at the Knicks practice facility, Tyler gave a group of about 10 reporters a taste of how he did that. When a door opened into the media room and the 20-year-old center appeared, he introduced himself to every member of the media with an extended handshake and "Hi, I'm Jeremy." In my years working in sports, I had never seen a player do that before a press conference, large or small.

It was a pleasant surprise considering how Tyler had been portrayed in the two previous years. Back in 2009, several months after signing with the pro basketball club Maccabi Haifa in August, reports surfaced out of Israel that he was having a turbulent time. The New York Times reported: "His coach calls him lazy and out of shape. The team captain says he is soft. His teammates say he needs to learn to shut up and show up on time. He has no friends on the team. In extensive interviews with Tyler, his teammates, coaches, his father and advisers, the consensus is that he is so naïve and immature that he has no idea how naïve and immature he is. So enamored with his vast potential, Tyler has not developed the work ethic necessary to tap it."

Tyler admitted that being overseas in the foreign city of Haifa as an 18-year-old without his family by his side was "pretty tough," but he had an appetite to take on the challenge -- and he said it was a coming-of-age experience.

"That's exactly what I wanted," Tyler said. "I was coming to a situation not really knowing how to handle myself. I wanted to challenge myself, challenge my skills, challenge me as a person. It was like a developmental year. I grew up. I developed a lot of good daily things that I didn't have, such as being a professional, just learning how to carry myself and learning how to conduct myself in the public as a sports figure, as a model person."

Tyler left Haifa in March of 2010 to return to his hometown of San Diego, but it didn't take him very long to book another international flight. This time, it was to Tokyo, Japan, to play for the local Apache club -- and this time, he was mentally prepared. With the guidance of his sideline boss Bob Hill, who coached the Knicks in the 1986-87 season and other NBA teams in the 1990s, Tyler became the mature person the group of reporters met last week.

"[Bob's] been everything I could possibly want in a mentor, a coach and a father figure," Tyler said. "I was there by myself. I basically lived at his house. I was going there every day eating and he was installing how to be a professional, how to be a man, how to be a good person -- and all that transitioned over to basketball. He's been everything as far as teaching me the game. He always told me, 'If you have everything that I have in my brain in your body right now, you'll be the best player ever.' So I said, 'I'm going to soak up everything every single day.'"

Not only can Tyler sway the Knicks from now until next week's draft with his maturity, but he plays a position, center, the team needs to upgrade. It appeared early on in the pre-draft process that they might look for a point guard to back up Chauncey Billups, especially with the concern over his age (34) and his recent playoff injury. But since his follow-up MRI showed no further damage to his left knee suffered in Game 1 of the first-round series vs. Boston, a player like Tyler (or a versatile forward like Chris Singleton) could re-direct the Knicks' focus heading into June 23.

Tyler, who was one of the top high school players in the country in the class of 2010 (he never went to college), is also applauded for his NBA-ready size (6'11", 260), big hands, 7'5" wingspan and athleticism, which onlookers raved about in Chicago. According to scouts, Tyler was one of two players (the other being Kentucky center Enes Kanter) who dramatically improved their stock.

Regarding his Knicks workout, Tyler said it was "real competitive" and he did "pretty good." Becoming a 'Bocker would be a dream come true for arguably the biggest sleeper in the draft.

"The Knicks are my favorite team," Tyler said. "I definitely can bring a lot of intensity, especially on defense. That was basically my role in Tokyo. I have a motor that never stops. I want to play hard and I go after it every single play. What I can bring to the Knicks is great, fundamental defense, especially a lot of heart added in to the heart that's already there, and just playing hard -- giving it everything I got."

Pretty soon, he may be sending out a welcome letter to every Knicks fan.

You can follow Jared Zwerling on Twitter.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/5354/tylers-maturity-and-game-might-fit-knicks-2

The concerns where over his maturity but he comes across as a *professional*

Hell, it took me until the other side of 25 to start pull off the professional thing.

We learn from our mistakes and that's what I think about Jeremy Tyler now

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6/15/2011  8:13 AM
Im glad for the kid.

Im also always suspect over how much talking these guys do. Its about on the court performance.

If we are ok with a project on the low side thats fine and let him go Dleague or play a year in Europe.

Im glad he is acting professional.

What he does among men is what counts.

He wants to be a knick? Great, is that his best chance at the highest pick? Im trying to be cynical but we hear guys talk all the time.

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6/15/2011  9:44 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/15/2011  9:45 AM
Nalod wrote:Im glad for the kid.

Im also always suspect over how much talking these guys do. Its about on the court performance.

If we are ok with a project on the low side thats fine and let him go Dleague or play a year in Europe.

Im glad he is acting professional.

What he does among men is what counts.

He wants to be a knick? Great, is that his best chance at the highest pick? Im trying to be cynical but we hear guys talk all the time.

I agree with you...talk is cheap. I don't really hold the Haifa bid against him one bit. Israel is a very tough place to live for so many reasons (I lived there for half of a two-year contract). At 18, without family or friends....yikes. Must have sucked for him.

Still, he seems like a D-leaguer at the start.

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6/15/2011  11:11 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/15/2011  11:18 AM
Nalod wrote:Im glad for the kid.

Im also always suspect over how much talking these guys do. Its about on the court performance.

If we are ok with a project on the low side thats fine and let him go Dleague or play a year in Europe.

Im glad he is acting professional.

What he does among men is what counts.

He wants to be a knick? Great, is that his best chance at the highest pick? Im trying to be cynical but we hear guys talk all the time.

- The guy isn't a finished product. If he was we wouldn't have a shot at him. Think Deandre Jordan and Javale McGee.

- He probably wants to be on the Knicks because he wants a chance to play and not collect splinters. He knows we have no bigs.

- The guy is a first rounder just off his measurements in combine. The guy is big and agile with some semblance of a jumper. Teams didnt see him play so he is a risk. Same with Jennings. If Jennings went to college he'd have been the 5th pick in the draft. Now mind you Jeremy Tyler isnt as skilled as Jennings.

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6/15/2011  12:43 PM
DrAlphaeus wrote:I'm glad you made this thread Anubis, I was wondering about this guy because I stumbled on a bookmarked Times article from '09 about him. Very interesting to read that stuff about him reacting positively to Bob Hill's criticism and leadership after a rocky start to his career. There's a good article about him from NBA.com here:

http://www.nba.com/2011/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/06/07/jeremy-tyler/

Wow. Very good interview. The kid seems very likable. His measureables are pretty impressive. BUT...I am not impressed with his skills right now.
He has a nice spin move.
His mid-range looks OK.
He looks like he bangs a little but positioning is pretty bad.
His FT mechanics is horrible. He has his left foot forward yet he is a right handed player.
He keeps the ball low in the post when getting the entry pass, but he keeps it high after rebounds. Weird.

Would be a good pickup but not at 17. Maybe buy a late first and take him there, but I would not be upset if we picked him up at 17. He answers one of our needs.

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6/17/2011  10:59 AM

Nice recovery.

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6/17/2011  11:08 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/17/2011  11:15 AM
Video of Tyler and Vucevic at the Portland workout. Dude is definitely tall enough to guard centers. Definitely needs to improve his conditioning. Dude looks gassed in the video.

Link: http://www.nba.com/blazers/video/2011/06/16/UpAndAdamLIVEPF-1736212

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6/17/2011  12:02 PM
he's one intriguing physical specimen, but I question his dedication & maturity level, I doubt a team is gonna commit to a 2 year guaranteed contract on this kid based on physique alone. projects generally get drafted in the 2nd round. Its just bad business to guarantee 2 years of salary on a project that may ride the pine for the duration of his contract.
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6/17/2011  12:42 PM
itchetrigr wrote:he's one intriguing physical specimen, but I question his dedication & maturity level, I doubt a team is gonna commit to a 2 year guaranteed contract on this kid based on physique alone. projects generally get drafted in the 2nd round. Its just bad business to guarantee 2 years of salary on a project that may ride the pine for the duration of his contract.

Javale McGee road the pine alot too and he was drafted mid first round.

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6/17/2011  1:08 PM
From what I remember of javale, he still needed to grow into his body and get full control of his movement. He was really awkward and unpolished in his footwork. Tyler isn't as green in that regard. Tyler could use some real NBA conditioning but his raw talent is there. He could play some C and PF. He won't be the tallest C out there, but he has the length and hops to hold his own from what I can see. I wouldn't expect him to be stopping Gasol or Howard, but who does really. You just want him to at least be able to hold his own and not be a matador.
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