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Markji
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5/17/2011  12:13 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:I dont see how the heat will match up with the depth and overall talent of the Bulls. We are WAY down in the pecking order--we need a miracle offseason.

Why do we need a miracle offseason. Are we supposed to win the NBA championship by next season?


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5/17/2011  12:54 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:I dont see how the heat will match up with the depth and overall talent of the Bulls. We are WAY down in the pecking order--we need a miracle offseason.

Why do we need a miracle offseason. Are we supposed to win the NBA championship by next season?

Well considering we have no draft pick next Summer, we can barely make any moves, Amar'e's health and we just traded everyone for Melo, then I think we need to be talking about win now very much so. We need an outstanding off season.

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5/17/2011  1:12 PM
I think jumping ability would be good too. And the ability to hit a jumper with high percentage while getting an extremely low amount of touches.
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5/17/2011  1:20 PM
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Vmart wrote:I agree with you. One thing that standout about the Bulls is not so much the players they have but how well defensively they are taught. They are very well taught especially in the team defense aspect of the game. You can see they trust their defense and their coach, they buy into what the coach has to teach and the execution of the defense that the coach wants implemented. When defense is emphasized all year long it shows in the playoffs all the hard work put into it. Our boy needs to understand that and get with the program. Since he is an offensive genius he should be more concerned about the area of his flaw and strive to be a defensive genius too.

Yea they also have players like Noah, Deng, Gibson and Boozer who are either great defenders, great rebounders, or both. To me, it IS about the players they have.

It a combination of both..just like a potent line up of
Steph
Jc
Q
Zach
Curry.(before he became a fat tub of lard)

Couldn't produce shhht...you could put 5 defensive guys out there..with no plan.. there useless..

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5/17/2011  1:24 PM
Justin Harper... get it done

If we get this kid and buy a pick to get Faried or vice versa we'll be golden going into next year.

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5/17/2011  2:35 PM
I think the knicks should sit and watch next year. We are all in for Chris Paul or Deron Williams, we should draft a shooting Guard and get one more year out of Billups. This up coming season will be the foundation for the knicks in 2012.

I see a great season next year, a year were we build up TD, Fields, our pick, Jerome Jordan, Shawn Williams, Bill Walker, ect with a 50th win campaign. But it won't the knicks time yet.

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5/17/2011  2:46 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:Justin Harper... get it done

If we get this kid and buy a pick to get Faried or vice versa we'll be golden going into next year.

Best player available. Im beginning more and more that if I cant move up I just would take Brooks. I think he might be BPA and we could use a 2G who can handle shoot and drive with good size.

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5/17/2011  3:27 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/17/2011  3:27 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:I dont see how the heat will match up with the depth and overall talent of the Bulls. We are WAY down in the pecking order--we need a miracle offseason.

Why do we need a miracle offseason. Are we supposed to win the NBA championship by next season?

Well considering we have no draft pick next Summer, we can barely make any moves, Amar'e's health and we just traded everyone for Melo, then I think we need to be talking about win now very much so. We need an outstanding off season.

I don't believe its realistic to make a run for a championship this offseason. Resigning Billups for his remaining 14 mil solidified that thought process by Walsh. I believe next offseason is the best opportunity when we have Billups 14.2mil and Turiaf's 4.3mil coming off the books. This off season should be used as another step toward setting up a deep team for 2013.

Our goal this off season should be to buy another first rd pick or possibly 2 first rd picks if possible. Then use the cap space that we acquire with those 2 expiring contracts next offseason to add even more depth or another star (which ever option is more beneficial to us) and truly make us a championship contender.

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5/17/2011  4:18 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:I dont see how the heat will match up with the depth and overall talent of the Bulls. We are WAY down in the pecking order--we need a miracle offseason.

Why do we need a miracle offseason. Are we supposed to win the NBA championship by next season?

Well considering we have no draft pick next Summer, we can barely make any moves, Amar'e's health and we just traded everyone for Melo, then I think we need to be talking about win now very much so. We need an outstanding off season.

I don't believe its realistic to make a run for a championship this offseason. Resigning Billups for his remaining 14 mil solidified that thought process by Walsh. I believe next offseason is the best opportunity when we have Billups 14.2mil and Turiaf's 4.3mil coming off the books. This off season should be used as another step toward setting up a deep team for 2013.

Our goal this off season should be to buy another first rd pick or possibly 2 first rd picks if possible. Then use the cap space that we acquire with those 2 expiring contracts next offseason to add even more depth or another star (which ever option is more beneficial to us) and truly make us a championship contender.

Billups was re-signed because he would have counted against the cap for the buyout, so the savings wouldn't have been that great for New York's cap space anyway.

I think this all plays out based on how the new CBA goes. If the salary cap is rolled back significantly like it's supposed to be, New York won't be in the running for another star in the 2012 offseason and is going to have to roll with what they have to try to win a chip.

I think the core of Billups, Anthony and Amar'e is closer than a lot of people think, especially factoring in that Boston appears to be on their way down. They do need a center, but if it were up to me I'd draft Darius Morrs and then move for a player like Dalembert to start at center, and bring in Jerome Jordan from overseas. Then next year, the Knicks could run this type of lineup. I'd re-sign Shawne Williams also.

PG: Billups/Morris
SG: Fields/Douglas/Walker
SF: Anthony/Williams/Walker
PF: Amar'e/Williams/Turiaf
C: Dalembert/Jordan/Turiaf

Then New York has Balkman and Andy Rautins under contract as players 13 and 14. It's a pretty good team with decent depth if TD doesn't have to run the point and only has to provide bench scoring and if Morris is any good, but I like what I've read about him.

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5/17/2011  5:49 PM
If we had a pick next year we should tank the whole year and try to get the top pick... unfortunately i don't think we have a pick next year.
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5/17/2011  8:01 PM
We can't tank with Amar'e and Anthony!!! It's just not possible. This is gonna be a 50+ win team with a few additions, which should be possible. Guys like Humphries, Aaron Gray, H. Armstrong, Ryan Hollins, Fasenko, Jason Collins, Kwame, Ajinca... There are enough guys available that we should be able to land some of them. I don't know if we can convince Dalembert to take less, but he'd be the top guy IMO. Otherwise we just have to take a chance one of these guys can blossom here.
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5/17/2011  8:06 PM
nixluva wrote:We can't tank with Amar'e and Anthony!!! It's just not possible. This is gonna be a 50+ win team with a few additions, which should be possible. Guys like Humphries, Aaron Gray, H. Armstrong, Ryan Hollins, Fasenko, Jason Collins, Kwame, Ajinca... There are enough guys available that we should be able to land some of them. I don't know if we can convince Dalembert to take less, but he'd be the top guy IMO. Otherwise we just have to take a chance one of these guys can blossom here.

This franchise has been in one big tank for the last decade, enough already. Time to move forward. I don't know how they will do next year but I don't want to see tanking as a strategy. I'm sure Walsh and Dolan feel the same way.

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5/17/2011  8:58 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
nixluva wrote:We can't tank with Amar'e and Anthony!!! It's just not possible. This is gonna be a 50+ win team with a few additions, which should be possible. Guys like Humphries, Aaron Gray, H. Armstrong, Ryan Hollins, Fasenko, Jason Collins, Kwame, Ajinca... There are enough guys available that we should be able to land some of them. I don't know if we can convince Dalembert to take less, but he'd be the top guy IMO. Otherwise we just have to take a chance one of these guys can blossom here.

This franchise has been in one big tank for the last decade, enough already. Time to move forward. I don't know how they will do next year but I don't want to see tanking as a strategy. I'm sure Walsh and Dolan feel the same way.


There's no way they tank anything. If they're healthy this team is gonna be at least top 5. We just need to have Donnie bring in the toughness we lack. Big bangers that will do the dirty work. We don't need scoring that's for sure. All Donnie has to do is find a bunch of tough minded defensive guys that will get after it.
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5/17/2011  10:08 PM
nixluva wrote:We can't tank with Amar'e and Anthony!!! It's just not possible. This is gonna be a 50+ win team with a few additions, which should be possible. Guys like Humphries, Aaron Gray, H. Armstrong, Ryan Hollins, Fasenko, Jason Collins, Kwame, Ajinca... There are enough guys available that we should be able to land some of them. I don't know if we can convince Dalembert to take less, but he'd be the top guy IMO. Otherwise we just have to take a chance one of these guys can blossom here.
I like Ryan Hollins a lot. I didn't realize he is a free agent. I think the Nets keep Humphries. He blew up there and is a great compliment to Lopez.
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we need big strong fast guys to add to amare

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