franco12 wrote:martin wrote:franco12 wrote:martin wrote:franco12 wrote:Why does MDA only have to get out of the first round next year?That is a pretty low bar- given that the Miami heat in their first year of having 2 1/2/ superstars are in the Conference Finals, and Thibs in his first year as a head coach with Rose & his roster of just assembled spare parts are there as well?
I'm sorry- but unless Walsh completely screws up this off season- the goal has to be Conference Finals for MDA. He simply has to get there, or we would do better to find the next Thibodeau.
Stat and Melo aren't rookies, and don't have a large window left of when they can be expected to advance far into the play offs.
when did Deng, Noah, Taj become just assembled spare parts?
Who the heck is Taj? I never heard of the guy before. You mean pick 26 is playing and having an impact.
Haven't they been looking to trade Deng off and on? Yea, he's good. And Noah- I know he's a hustle player, but what exactly is he good at? I mean, he doesn't have star skills.
Boozer got there this year, was hurt, same for Korver.
It still stands, that next year, MDA has nearly as much star power as any other eastern conference squad. We've missed out on depth and rebounding- not that MDA would even go there- but I trust Donnie to take care of those needs, just like he did at the start of this season.
MDA has been here 4 years - whether there's been turn over or not- has he had time to lay a foundation or not?
perhaps you should pay closer attention to a team you are making comments on, regarding CHI.
The only player MDA has on the roster that would have been able to lay a foundation on is TD. The rest are all new starting this past year, and of those guys, it's Amare, Shawne, Fields.
And perhaps you should pay closer attention to Knicks: MDA has been with team 3 years.
Next year will be MDA's 4th with this franchise.
Yes, there has been turn over. Yes, maybe Chicago has had a small group of players that have been together.
But, Miami's big three - first year together.
Billups, Melo and Stat aren't as good as Wade, Bosh & Lerbron - but they sure as heck are good enough to get out of the first round.
And MDA sure as heck has a more impressive coaching resume than Erik Spoelstra.
Why do other franchises get turned around and yet our bar for MDA & this group is the first round?
it's always weird to me that people think that the big 3 of Miami are a completely new team. Prior to this year, Spoelstra has been there for 2 years with Wade, James Jone, Haslem, Jamaal Magloire, Chalmbers. When you add experienced vets LeBron, Bosh, Miller with a full training camp, it still takes them half a year to straighted things out. Sprinkle serviceable vets of Dampier, Z, Bibby and that's not a bad team.
Right now Knicks got a lot less than that. Only 1 player with more than a year with coach and Amare from a different team. Miami had a collective 10 years of player experience with the same coach prior to this year and together as a unit.
Lets look at Chicago. This is Rose's 3rd year, Noah's 4th, Taj's 2nd, Deng's 6th. So those guys have played together a lot with each other, all core guys.
How is this compatible to NY's situation?
Just because it's MDA's 4th with the franchise does not mean he can lay down a foundation; to lay a foundation you also have to have continuity with players, and players certainly need time together too, it helps.
Boston added KG and Ray Allen the year they won, but let us not forget that Perkins, Pierce, Scalabrine, Tony Allen were already on team and had all played 2+ seasons together.
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