Sangfroid wrote:So can we kill the Douglas is **** threads. The kid plays with a lot of grit. A solid role player.

which does not excuse the lapsed he had defending Rondo. I wasn't complaining about him going under screens but, continuing to backpeddle instead of planting your feet to stop his drive. He'd backpeddle and then jump out of the way.

When a guy is running down the court you have to stop his momentum...not let him walk it all the way to the basket. Too many of Rondo's points came way too easily.

Sure he showed hart by being out there but, he obviously hurt the team. Carter played much better defense on Ray Allen and Rondo.

You go out and play your assumed to be healthy (for the most part). Your not supposed to let your injury hurt the team by playing

knicks1248 wrote:please.. the guy played lights out one night, then played the complete opposite the next..he may have been hurt, but he also hurt the team. His overall play was erratic, weather he was shooting, passing, or just flat his flat out mental approach, it was all erratic, and head scratching.

agreed

Nalod wrote:Good thing we didn't trade him!!!!! Wow, imagine running a team without knowing all the information!

...like Dolan?

Juice wrote:Yet he kept shooting and shooting and shooting and shooting and shooting and shooting as if he was in a desert with no Oasis in sight.

Steve Nash under d'A

05-06 PHX 79 79 2,795 541-1,056 150-342 257-279 47 286 333 826 61 12 276 120 1,489
06-07 PHX 76 76 2,682 517-971 156-343 222-247 30 239 269 884 57 6 287 117 1,412

that's 1054+971 total shots in the two years or 2025 /(2795+2682) or 0.3697 near enough 0.370 shots/minute

For Douglas I'll use career totals-
Career -- 137 21 3,058 493-1,146 211-558 140-175 105 247 352 356 131 7 144 293 1,337

1146/3058 = 0.374 yes that is shooting more than a "pass first" Steve Nash but he is already showing he is approaching Nash like point guard skills thanks to coach. On defense.

d'A stops practice to chew his players out if they pass up an open shot. I've seen it on tape myself.

Juice wrote:

Olbrannon wrote:

Juice wrote:Yet he kept shooting and shooting and shooting and shooting and shooting and shooting as if he was in a desert with no Oasis in sight.

Steve Nash under d'A

05-06 PHX 79 79 2,795 541-1,056 150-342 257-279 47 286 333 826 61 12 276 120 1,489
06-07 PHX 76 76 2,682 517-971 156-343 222-247 30 239 269 884 57 6 287 117 1,412

that's 1054+971 total shots in the two years or 2025 /(2795+2682) or 0.3697 near enough 0.370 shots/minute

For Douglas I'll use career totals-
Career -- 137 21 3,058 493-1,146 211-558 140-175 105 247 352 356 131 7 144 293 1,337

1146/3058 = 0.374 yes that is shooting more than a "pass first" Steve Nash but he is already showing he is approaching Nash like point guard skills thanks to coach. On defense.

d'A stops practice to chew his players out if they pass up an open shot. I've seen it on tape myself.

Where in this post did you prove Douglas has shown he's approaching Steve Nash caliber point guard skills? If that was the case we would have had different plans with Billups and Douglas wouldn't have played next to Billups and Felton as a 2 guard.

Then you have the nerve to compare a backup who plays less minutes/gm over a starter. What badge of honor are you receiving from Douglas?

Comments are just that. You can make your mouth or letters and numbers or even a set of eyes see what they want. There might even be a grain of truth in there somewhere. The last comment is just laughable.

I'm just a fan of a player. Who are you and what claim do you have to being an expert?

CrushAlot wrote:

Olbrannon wrote:

Juice wrote:Yet he kept shooting and shooting and shooting and shooting and shooting and shooting as if he was in a desert with no Oasis in sight.

Steve Nash under d'A

05-06 PHX 79 79 2,795 541-1,056 150-342 257-279 47 286 333 826 61 12 276 120 1,489
06-07 PHX 76 76 2,682 517-971 156-343 222-247 30 239 269 884 57 6 287 117 1,412

that's 1054+971 total shots in the two years or 2025 /(2795+2682) or 0.3697 near enough 0.370 shots/minute

For Douglas I'll use career totals-
Career -- 137 21 3,058 493-1,146 211-558 140-175 105 247 352 356 131 7 144 293 1,337

1146/3058 = 0.374 yes that is shooting more than a "pass first" Steve Nash but he is already showing he is approaching Nash like point guard skills thanks to coach. On defense.

d'A stops practice to chew his players out if they pass up an open shot. I've seen it on tape myself.

I haven't seen him chew out many people other than Douglas. I also have never seen a practice film where he has stopped practice and chewed out a player. I am not saying it hasn't happened but I try to watch any Knick stuff that I can. Was this in Phoenix?

Summer League when Douglas first got there. One of the first summer league practice videos. TD passed up an open 3 ...practice stops Douglas gets chewed out. And by the way your man is slow going under the screen you are supposed to make him pay for giving you space. That is what Rondo cannot consistently do. Though he does about everything else to perfection.

for all your complaints about he just kept shooting as well he was 7-18 from 3 for .389 made one 'onions' give us a chance in game 1 in the playoffs and hit every free throw.

The Nash similarity was pointed in that the ratio of shot/minute was so close it surprised me. And TD began his career regarded as a skilled defensive player while the defense I saw reminded me of Nash(Boston series). Just saying he is approaching Nash in certain phases under his teacher. Obviously the assist ratio still has to increase

Rondo didn't even get a look under d'A The Suns took him and traded him to the Celtics.

To my knowledge no one ever questioned Douglas' heart or toughness

What's in question is his team play execution/defense/bball iq all things you know essentially non injury related. He got a few at a boys down the stretch of the season mainly when he showed up offensively but sorry a player IMO should never be judged on offensive output only.

Funny thing is the ones who were getting on coach for not utilizing his bench properly were being told certain players couldn't play because where was the time and fit for them yet...

Amar'e was battered/tired down the stretch

Fields looked like he hit a wall down the stretch

Shawn Williams tore a ligament in his finger played the season out with it

Douglas torn labrum all year

These guys continued to get lions share minutes. This should give you more insight as to who we have leading this team. Now to Douglas credit he didn't bich out to the media openly about his injury or about his wear and tear like our $100mil man who's name will go unmentioned but he still has to execute when out on the floor. Coach contributed heavily almost running him into the ground another one of his victims. But if you're healthy enough to play and healthy enough to get up shots, then you're healthy enough to pass and play defense and run offense.....<-------simplistic logic here folks

NO MORE EXCUSES

Olbrannon wrote:

juice wrote:

NO MORE EXCUSES

I didn't see in print anywhere that he offered any.

I said No one harassed the outlet passer, no one impeded Rondo down court no help at the rim.. If a team scores within 3 seconds from gaining posession on the other end of the court it's a team problem Not just one guy. And.... shooting\is what d'A PG's do besides the p-n-r

This applies to fans too in case you were confused. Fans of Players and/or Team

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