nixluva wrote:

Panos wrote:I just want D'Antoni and Walsh to be on the same page and not lock up any salary in a guy that will not get playing time.
COMMUNICATE PLEASE!

Why wouldn't Mike play Dalembert??? If he played Jared and Turiaf I see no reason to think he won't
Play guys Donnie brings in. This whole thing is so overblown. No coach plays everyone! We may not agree with Mike all the time but he's trying to win and playing the guys he thinks will help do that.

If Jared played I see no reason why Reggie Evans wouldn't play! Why do fans not see the similarity in that. Mike does play kids and he does play defensive players with no offense!

Are you saying that there are not a number of big men that have not played even though we've been desperate for one?
All I'm asking is that Walsh communicate with 'Antoni before locking up any salary. What's with all the defensiveness?

Panos wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Panos wrote:I just want D'Antoni and Walsh to be on the same page and not lock up any salary in a guy that will not get playing time.
COMMUNICATE PLEASE!

Why wouldn't Mike play Dalembert??? If he played Jared and Turiaf I see no reason to think he won't
Play guys Donnie brings in. This whole thing is so overblown. No coach plays everyone! We may not agree with Mike all the time but he's trying to win and playing the guys he thinks will help do that.

If Jared played I see no reason why Reggie Evans wouldn't play! Why do fans not see the similarity in that. Mike does play kids and he does play defensive players with no offense!

Are you saying that there are not a number of big men that have not played even though we've been desperate for one?
All I'm asking is that Walsh communicate with 'Antoni before locking up any salary. What's with all the defensiveness?

No coach is obligated to play anyone they don't feel will help them win! We may not agree with him but it's his call. Hill, Darko and AR didn't do it for Mike. We may disagree but it's not true that he only plays bigs that score or that he dislikes defensive players.

franco12 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Panos wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Panos wrote:I just want D'Antoni and Walsh to be on the same page and not lock up any salary in a guy that will not get playing time.
COMMUNICATE PLEASE!

Why wouldn't Mike play Dalembert??? If he played Jared and Turiaf I see no reason to think he won't
Play guys Donnie brings in. This whole thing is so overblown. No coach plays everyone! We may not agree with Mike all the time but he's trying to win and playing the guys he thinks will help do that.

If Jared played I see no reason why Reggie Evans wouldn't play! Why do fans not see the similarity in that. Mike does play kids and he does play defensive players with no offense!

Are you saying that there are not a number of big men that have not played even though we've been desperate for one?
All I'm asking is that Walsh communicate with 'Antoni before locking up any salary. What's with all the defensiveness?

No coach is obligated to play anyone they don't feel will help them win! We may not agree with him but it's his call. Hill, Darko and AR didn't do it for Mike. We may disagree but it's not true that he only plays bigs that score or that he dislikes defensive players.

Panos is simply asking that Walsh & MDA get on the same page before we acquire a big man at significant salary who will end up in MDA's dog house. That is all!!!!!!!!!

He's not questioning MDA's right to not play players he doesn't want to play.

But I can if you want - I just know its pointless!

Thanks Franco. Jeez...

Panos wrote:

nixluva wrote:Until the player gets here and actually plays how can Mike promise to play a guy? Did he not try to give Mason a shot? It's not his fault Mason stunk. Same goes for Darko! Guys have to produce and in the instances most of you guys keep complaining about the players stunk and some of them didn't give 100%. I wouldn't play some guy that acted like a child. None of know what really goes on but Mike is fairly consistent. Play hard, practice hard. Worked for Fields and Williams and many others.

Pratice? We talkin' bout Practice? Practice!

How long has 'Antoni been a coach in this league? He should be able to say if a player can fit into his team or not without having to see him in practice. Come on now. Check the damn tape!

Don't go there! Mike's philosophy is that these guys are paid good money to play, and I guess he wants to see that at all times. I do believe however, that he would be hard pressed to keep Dalambert out of the line-up.

nixluva wrote:Dalembert would play and these guys know
It! This is just silly. No one we had was as good at C as Dalembert which is saying a lot.

nixluva wrote:Until the player gets here and actually plays how can Mike promise to play a guy? Did he not try to give Mason a shot? It's not his fault Mason stunk. Same goes for Darko! Guys have to produce and in the instances most of you guys keep complaining about the players stunk and some of them didn't give 100%. I wouldn't play some guy that acted like a child. None of know what really goes on but Mike is fairly consistent. Play hard, practice hard. Worked for Fields and Williams and many others.

G Corey Brewer(notes) was only on the floor about eight minutes in Game 1, but the Mavs were plus-11 in points with the swingman in the game. No one else on the team had a better plus-minus. Brewer scored five points and played some stellar defense in the third quarter.

“Brewer going in the game gave us a lot of energy,” Dallas coach Rick Carlisle said. “He ran the floor, hit a couple shots, he got deflections, he got his hand on balls, made things happen.”

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:Until the player gets here and actually plays how can Mike promise to play a guy? Did he not try to give Mason a shot? It's not his fault Mason stunk. Same goes for Darko! Guys have to produce and in the instances most of you guys keep complaining about the players stunk and some of them didn't give 100%. I wouldn't play some guy that acted like a child. None of know what really goes on but Mike is fairly consistent. Play hard, practice hard. Worked for Fields and Williams and many others.

I think the Mike is consistent in the type of player he likes. That doesn't mean that the guy he doesn't like isn't a good player. Think about how Allen and Pierce went off in the playoffs. Think about how Fields and Mason played. Read this from the Mavs team notes.

G Corey Brewer(notes) was only on the floor about eight minutes in Game 1, but the Mavs were plus-11 in points with the swingman in the game. No one else on the team had a better plus-minus. Brewer scored five points and played some stellar defense in the third quarter.

“Brewer going in the game gave us a lot of energy,” Dallas coach Rick Carlisle said. “He ran the floor, hit a couple shots, he got deflections, he got his hand on balls, made things happen.”

the guy has almost as many DNPs during the playoffs as his total minutes played through Dallas' first 2 rounds of games.

Can we expect some perspective? Damn. He may have been on the floor during game 1 for a couple of shots and a plus in the +/- but he was taken out cause Kobe started to eat him alive.

I disagree with that, so does the new york times:

Brewer responded. He entered the game with Dallas trailing the Lakers, 60-44, what turned out to be their
largest deficit of the night. When Brewer left about eight minutes later, the Mavericks were behind by only 71-66 and on their way to a comeback victory. Brewer scored 5 points, an alley-oop dunk and a 3-pointer.

“He’s going to be ready to play and I won’t hesitate to use him,” Dallas Coach Rick Carlisle said before Game 2 of the series Wednesday night. “He’s kept himself ready. He’s played a lot of big games in his life because of the two championship runs in college. He loves this kind of situation. I don’t know what the minutes will be, but I know he can help us.”

If you don't do this then you risk Jared Jeffries playing 30 MPG at center.

Juice wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:Until the player gets here and actually plays how can Mike promise to play a guy? Did he not try to give Mason a shot? It's not his fault Mason stunk. Same goes for Darko! Guys have to produce and in the instances most of you guys keep complaining about the players stunk and some of them didn't give 100%. I wouldn't play some guy that acted like a child. None of know what really goes on but Mike is fairly consistent. Play hard, practice hard. Worked for Fields and Williams and many others.

I think the Mike is consistent in the type of player he likes. That doesn't mean that the guy he doesn't like isn't a good player. Think about how Allen and Pierce went off in the playoffs. Think about how Fields and Mason played. Read this from the Mavs team notes.

G Corey Brewer(notes) was only on the floor about eight minutes in Game 1, but the Mavs were plus-11 in points with the swingman in the game. No one else on the team had a better plus-minus. Brewer scored five points and played some stellar defense in the third quarter.

“Brewer going in the game gave us a lot of energy,” Dallas coach Rick Carlisle said. “He ran the floor, hit a couple shots, he got deflections, he got his hand on balls, made things happen.”

the guy has almost as many DNPs during the playoffs as his total minutes played through Dallas' first 2 rounds of games.

Can we expect some perspective? Damn. He may have been on the floor during game 1 for a couple of shots and a plus in the +/- but he was taken out cause Kobe started to eat him alive.

I disagree with that, so does the new york times:

"I know he can help us.”

The only quote that matters.....END DISCUSSION

I didn't realize Corey Brewer made it into this thread- and just bumped the Corey Brewer is gone.

Martin - the fact is Brewer was on the floor when the Mavs closed the gap in a big way against the Lakers.

If he can help a better team than us, why the F couldn't find time for him?

Maybe because Brewer can make an impact on D and not on offense?

Isn't it getting tired always defended MDA?

I mean, I wanted to have an open mind with Isiah - even though I thought he was a bad hire at the time and clearly proved worse- and defended his moves early.

But three years of MDA and his modus operandi is pretty evident - sorry if I am rushing the judgement and not open to giving him 5 more minutes, let alone another friggin season to prove me and others wrong.

BigSm00th wrote:

grillco wrote:

BigSm00th wrote:if dalembert signs it will be for the MLE.

this guy played 82 games a year for 4 years in a row. then went to the kings and only played 25 minutes a game last year in a crowded front court.

as a knick he'd played probably in the neighborhood of 33 minutes a game. i'd expect 10 points 10 boards 2 blocks from him, and always taking the harder defensive assignment which frees up STAT.

this is not jerome james LOL big snacks had a weight problem and a motivation problem. dalembert's a consistent guy -- shows up every day, hits the glass, blocks shots. i think he's pretty much the ideal front court complement to STAT

How is Sam consistent? It's the lack of consistency that lessens his appeal. I've not heard of any real reliability game after game as it relates to Sam.

I'm not sure what you've "heard" but here's what i see:

2006-07: 82 games, 82 starts. 31 minutes per game: 11 points 9 rebounds 2 blocks
2007-08: 82 games, 82 starts. 33 minutes per game: 11 points 10 rebounds 2 blocks
2008-09: 82 games, 82 starts. 25 minutes per game. 6 points 9 rebounds 2 blocks
2009-10: 82 games, 80 starts. 26 minutes per game. 8 points 10 rebounds 2 blocks
2010-11: 80 games, 46 starts. 24 minutes per game. 8 points 8 rebounds 1.5 blocks

first 4 with philly, last yr was in sactown splitting time with demarcus cousins and jason thompson. i think the stats show that when he is starting and playing over 30 mintues hes a 10/10/2 guy on 55% from the field. he has no injury history, will get 10 rebounds and 2 blocks if given 30 minutes, and will guard the other team's best post player every night.

who is better than him that is a plausible FA option? this guy solves a few HUGE needs (rebound help, shotblocking, putting someone at the 5 which allows STAT and melo to play at their natural positions, size).

Yes, for his career he has been consistently mediocre. I, however, was referring to his playing game to game. Some days he's a monster and others just filling up floor space for 30 minutes. That is the epitome of INCONSISTENT. It wouldn't be so bad IF he put up 8 and 8 everynight, but he doesn't, it's maddening a annoying ebb and flow of really good and crap. The guy is incredibly streaky and 8 and 8 isn't particularly impressive, even at MLE money.