JrZyHuStLa wrote:

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

arkrud wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:This organization cannot afford to waste any more time with Mike Dantoni. Another training camp followed by another regular season will only produce the same non defensive minded results.

Let him go this week, and this team instantly frees themselves from his failed and unproven principles and can continue to get better as a unit.

What unit?
Stat+Melo+MrOldBigShot+Scrubscquad?
Intersting were you will get a coach who can make this team embrio to play difense?
Firts somebody should build the team. And Mike did it already a couple of times in NY. And it wasn't bad considering the crap he get to work with.
Now we have some material to do something and you want to start experimenting again. may be let's bring Isiah back for some entertinment?

He has been in NY for three years. His many faults, and weakness have been on display for a long time. I am not sure why the injuries of the past week excuse the futility and incompetence of three years.

dude, what were your expectations for the first 2 years? Playoffs? This I got to hear. Compliment your analysis with all of the trades that happened during that time period.

Were you expecting a sweep?

If NY could play with healthy Billups and Amare, no. Considering both go down essentially after Game 1, I certainly didn't expect to win games after that. Minor miracle if they did and Game #2 almost played out that way. Thought they were playing against refs in game #1.

Did you think the Knicks could beat Boston in Games #3 & 4 without Billups and Amare?

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

arkrud wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:This organization cannot afford to waste any more time with Mike Dantoni. Another training camp followed by another regular season will only produce the same non defensive minded results.

Let him go this week, and this team instantly frees themselves from his failed and unproven principles and can continue to get better as a unit.

What unit?
Stat+Melo+MrOldBigShot+Scrubscquad?
Intersting were you will get a coach who can make this team embrio to play difense?
Firts somebody should build the team. And Mike did it already a couple of times in NY. And it wasn't bad considering the crap he get to work with.
Now we have some material to do something and you want to start experimenting again. may be let's bring Isiah back for some entertinment?

He has been in NY for three years. His many faults, and weakness have been on display for a long time. I am not sure why the injuries of the past week excuse the futility and incompetence of three years.

dude, what were your expectations for the first 2 years? Playoffs? This I got to hear. Compliment your analysis with all of the trades that happened during that time period.

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

martin wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

arkrud wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:This organization cannot afford to waste any more time with Mike Dantoni. Another training camp followed by another regular season will only produce the same non defensive minded results.

Let him go this week, and this team instantly frees themselves from his failed and unproven principles and can continue to get better as a unit.

What unit?
Stat+Melo+MrOldBigShot+Scrubscquad?
Intersting were you will get a coach who can make this team embrio to play difense?
Firts somebody should build the team. And Mike did it already a couple of times in NY. And it wasn't bad considering the crap he get to work with.
Now we have some material to do something and you want to start experimenting again. may be let's bring Isiah back for some entertinment?

He has been in NY for three years. His many faults, and weakness have been on display for a long time. I am not sure why the injuries of the past week excuse the futility and incompetence of three years.

dude, what were your expectations for the first 2 years? Playoffs? This I got to hear. Compliment your analysis with all of the trades that happened during that time period.

Were you expecting a sweep?

If NY could play with healthy Billups and Amare, no. Considering both go down essentially after Game 1, I certainly didn't expect to win games after that. Minor miracle if they did and Game #2 almost played out that way. Thought they were playing against refs in game #1.

Did you think the Knicks could beat Boston in Games #3 & 4 without Billups and Amare?

I thought they could have competed with Melo and scrubs like they did in game 2 for games 3 and 4, but Dantoni and the team left the effort in Boston.

I understand your frustration but seriously this team was done after Billups and Stat went down.
The scrubs can only give you a game once in a while. In NBA you need players to win games. And we left with 1... but need 7-8.
Come on. Get real.

AnubisADL wrote:Posters here can make all the excuses for D'Antoni they like because it won't save him.

If Donnie back next year, he will. Guaranteed.

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Posters here can make all the excuses for D'Antoni they like because it won't save him.

If Donnie back next year, he will. Guaranteed.

If Walsh doesn't let him go we can safely assume that he's doing nothing but denying that hiring Dantoni was a huge mistake.

perhaps that's how you make decisions, pretty poor way of dealing with mistakes.

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Posters here can make all the excuses for D'Antoni they like because it won't save him.

If Donnie back next year, he will. Guaranteed.

If Walsh doesn't let him go we can safely assume that he's doing nothing but denying that hiring Dantoni was a huge mistake.

He's gone to the media openly throwing himself in front of the bus to save his coach. At least 4 times since he's been here. If Don is back D'AnToni slides across home plate SAFE even if he misses by feet

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

arkrud wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:This organization cannot afford to waste any more time with Mike Dantoni. Another training camp followed by another regular season will only produce the same non defensive minded results.

Let him go this week, and this team instantly frees themselves from his failed and unproven principles and can continue to get better as a unit.

What unit?
Stat+Melo+MrOldBigShot+Scrubscquad?
Intersting were you will get a coach who can make this team embrio to play difense?
Firts somebody should build the team. And Mike did it already a couple of times in NY. And it wasn't bad considering the crap he get to work with.
Now we have some material to do something and you want to start experimenting again. may be let's bring Isiah back for some entertinment?

He has been in NY for three years. His many faults, and weakness have been on display for a long time. I am not sure why the injuries of the past week excuse the futility and incompetence of three years.

dude, what were your expectations for the first 2 years? Playoffs? This I got to hear. Compliment your analysis with all of the trades that happened during that time period.

Just because you don't have a championship calibur team doesn't mean there are zero expectations and no ways to evaluate coaching.
W-L aside we've had

120+ players generally show defensive apathy(big sample size)
horrible defensive rotations
many career nights for opposing players
refusal by coach to even acknowledge the problem(shots aren't falling, our pace makes the other team get a in a rhythm so no D can
be played anyway)
lack of preparation for opponents pre game
lack of adjustments in game
horrible play calling after timeouts near the end of games
stupidly short rotation most of the time
alienation of multiple players all of whom state D'Antoni doesn't communicate at all with them.

All of this without even mentioning the stellar W-L record we have and the great playoff run we just witnessed.

Nalod wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:I want Brian Shaw--Phil jackson's top assistant--to coach the Knicks next year. Monty Williams and Tom Thibs both have had a great amount of success. I think a younger guy with some fire, deterimination, and of course acumen would be a perfect fit for this group.

That line of thinking worked great for Rambis.

If Hornets get swept you want Monty? Or is he the "hot dot" of the moment?

I don't think any fan would not like to have the next young great coach but in NY do you really hire an untested entity and throw him out to this media?

Maybe when we were a yoot oriented team but for now you have Billups, Melo and Stat you gotta have major buy in and not have some young dude who they might sicken of real quick. Don't forget we got two divas here and likly billups.

Maybe that is what we need- Brian Shaw would be perfect- he is younger, can relate to guys - but as a role player, won't let Melo and Amare not give the effort, and he has rings as a player and coach.

Nalod wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:I want Brian Shaw--Phil jackson's top assistant--to coach the Knicks next year. Monty Williams and Tom Thibs both have had a great amount of success. I think a younger guy with some fire, deterimination, and of course acumen would be a perfect fit for this group.

That line of thinking worked great for Rambis.

If Hornets get swept you want Monty? Or is he the "hot dot" of the moment?

I don't think any fan would not like to have the next young great coach but in NY do you really hire an untested entity and throw him out to this media?

Maybe when we were a yoot oriented team but for now you have Billups, Melo and Stat you gotta have major buy in and not have some young dude who they might sicken of real quick. Don't forget we got two divas here and likly billups.