Paladin55 wrote:Nobody ever said that any of the individuals we traded were on the level of Anthony, and the trade was not a 1/1 deal, so this thread is a bit foolish, IMO.

Who knows how games 1 and 2 go with the other squad- lets face it, we are still down 0-2, so it could not be any worse.

Anthony played a heroic game yesterday. I don't have an issue with our last possession, either. If that is Amare getting the pass from Anthony we probably score. You have to know your limitations- and the Celtics would have triple teamed him, if necessary. He made the right BB play.

The other squad might have been a a better group against the Celts, though, because it might have run them into the ground, but this is all speculation.

If we have Billups, Amare, and Anthony on the floor yesterday, we would have won. You have no control over who, when, and how a play is going to get injured. Our timing sucks, though.

Still proud of everyone who played for us, yesterday.

If I were 6'11" and got the ball where Fishlips got it last night, it would take artillery to keep me from throwing the rock down inside the rim. That dude just plain stinks on offense. Of course, my kids and I were trembling and then hooting at his improbable layup not 60 seconds before the errant pass.

I got to give Fishlips his due though... that was his best game ever as a Knicks, even with the foolish pass that lost the game for us. Great game for him.

Moonangie wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:Nobody ever said that any of the individuals we traded were on the level of Anthony, and the trade was not a 1/1 deal, so this thread is a bit foolish, IMO.

Who knows how games 1 and 2 go with the other squad- lets face it, we are still down 0-2, so it could not be any worse.

Anthony played a heroic game yesterday. I don't have an issue with our last possession, either. If that is Amare getting the pass from Anthony we probably score. You have to know your limitations- and the Celtics would have triple teamed him, if necessary. He made the right BB play.

The other squad might have been a a better group against the Celts, though, because it might have run them into the ground, but this is all speculation.

If we have Billups, Amare, and Anthony on the floor yesterday, we would have won. You have no control over who, when, and how a play is going to get injured. Our timing sucks, though.

Still proud of everyone who played for us, yesterday.

If I were 6'11" and got the ball where Fishlips got it last night, it would take artillery to keep me from throwing the rock down inside the rim. That dude just plain stinks on offense. Of course, my kids and I were trembling and then hooting at his improbable layup not 60 seconds before the errant pass.

I got to give Fishlips his due though... that was his best game ever as a Knicks, even with the foolish pass that lost the game for us. Great game for him.

"Lost the game for us"?

We were down. Defense collapse on him. He needed to turn but who he does not know who is waiting for him to slap the ball away. Awful foul shooter, so he thinks he can get ball past and make the pass. KG is bigger faster and taller than him and he is not going to let him get a good look.

If he can see it like we can and have the benefit of instant replay I"ll give him hell.

The Time out was called at 4.3 seconds. Im going to guess if we scored they had 6 or 7 seconds to run a play from mid court. And they do that last second **** better than anyone except Lakers!

JJ put us up.

JJ did not lost hte game, he just was not able to "Win" it.

Then I did some thinking, then some more thinking. Something just didn't add up. Yes, he had a career night, but he was doubled and he did have trust in his teammate and I am sure thats what the coach tells them, to trust their teammates. So then I was confused, I mean that was the absolute WORST scenario as our last possesion to score for the win. How could it happen if everything was "right" ? And thats when it hit me. WHY WAS JJ OUT THERE AFTER A TIME OUT? WHY? No, really, why the fork was JJ out there? MDA, this loss was your fault man. I don't care if we had no Billups nor Amare. We had a chance to win it and our chance was pooped on by MDA leaving JJ out there during a possesion where D was not needed at all and we just needed a score. JJ did what JJ does, can't fault him for that, the guy tried. But he shouldn't have been in the position to fail and MDA put him there. Simple as that.

Vmart wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:Me and my friend were having this discussion after game 2, what lost us the game? He was like"JJ is a bum, straight up bum !" Me(please bear with me)I could not blame JJ. I told him that JJ played his heart out, he did a MJordanesque layup(for JJ that was spectacular, straight up ESPN highlight) on our second to last possession, then he played excellent M2M D on Garnett(or as close as he to excellent), and the last possession he was simply JJ that we all know, no big news there. Can't blame him, simple as that. What I told him was that Melo should have not passed him the ball to shoot a game winner or free throws if he gets fouled because JJ has about ZERO game winners for his career. Now Melo, on the other hand, had a career playoff scoring night and I would rather him shoot it, even double teamed and EVEN from behind the arc on a night like that, and if he missed I would have been happier than seeing him pass it to JJ.

Then I did some thinking, then some more thinking. Something just didn't add up. Yes, he had a career night, but he was doubled and he did have trust in his teammate and I am sure thats what the coach tells them, to trust their teammates. So then I was confused, I mean that was the absolute WORST scenario as our last possesion to score for the win. How could it happen if everything was "right" ? And thats when it hit me. WHY WAS JJ OUT THERE AFTER A TIME OUT? WHY? No, really, why the fork was JJ out there? MDA, this loss was your fault man. I don't care if we had no Billups nor Amare. We had a chance to win it and our chance was pooped on by MDA leaving JJ out there during a possesion where D was not needed at all and we just needed a score. JJ did what JJ does, can't fault him for that, the guy tried. But he shouldn't have been in the position to fail and MDA put him there. Simple as that.

My thoughts ran the same. Why was JJ out there. I would have thrown Shawne out there, Turriaff, Hell I would have thrown a rusty Sheldon out there or Brown but I would not have put JJ in there. If you have trust issues with Fields for scoring where was his trust issue with JJ on the offense? I will give where credit is due JJ played well this game and that move with the second to last possession might have been his best move in his entire career.

I would have put Brown in for Jeffries. He's fast and can elevate and throw it down in a hurry. Brown could have at least drawn a foul.

Nalod wrote:If this is the future of Amare in and out breaking down under heavy minutes and we got Melo in the role made famous by Dominique Wilkens-David Thompson-Glen Rice-Glenn Robinson- of big scoring and early bounces out of playoffs then enjoy the starphuch.

There are different ways to rebuild. Pre Trade we had other options and alternatives to the future.

Its done. The Corey Brewer era came and went in a flash.

Melo played out of his mind last nite and the team lost.

Results or hope. Thats what you get.

Seeing as we had neither before, I would say that's a upgrade eh?

loweyecue wrote:

Nalod wrote:If this is the future of Amare in and out breaking down under heavy minutes and we got Melo in the role made famous by Dominique Wilkens-David Thompson-Glen Rice-Glenn Robinson- of big scoring and early bounces out of playoffs then enjoy the starphuch.

There are different ways to rebuild. Pre Trade we had other options and alternatives to the future.

Its done. The Corey Brewer era came and went in a flash.

Melo played out of his mind last nite and the team lost.

Results or hope. Thats what you get.

Seeing as we had neither before, I would say that's a upgrade eh?

I guess translated: Ain't gonna happen this year!

Im ok with the trade.

We gotta balance it out and keep Amare Fresh as he gets older.

Im ok with this season and the games.

Melo trade necessitated Getting JJ. How Ironic!

It will be an interesting off season!

Regarding what we traded and what we have, damn, it sure was worth it. I was down on the trade but am over it at least as far as knowing we need role players now. Melo is a great passer, I really hope we can get Mos back or a center in the draft. Actually our own Jerome Jordon might suffice...

CashMoney wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Last I checked we were down 0-2 too.

Robbed in game 1 and not having 2 starters in game 2 and almost pulling it off against the Celtics is not comporable to the Thunder whooping Denver at FULL STRENGTH.

In fairness, Denver was robbed in game 1 also. The NBA admitted Perkins go-ahead bucket with a minute remaining was a blown call.

Either way... I think we're still better after the trade. What happened to Denver in game 2 was exactly what we all worried about. Half court offense in the playoffs and they struggled to score. That team is built for the regular season.

Marv wrote:

gr33d wrote:

CashMoney wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Last I checked we were down 0-2 too.

Robbed in game 1 and not having 2 starters in game 2 and almost pulling it off against the Celtics is not comporable to the Thunder whooping Denver at FULL STRENGTH.

In fairness, Denver was robbed in game 1 also. The NBA admitted Perkins go-ahead bucket with a minute remaining was a blown call.

Either way... I think we're still better after the trade. What happened to Denver in game 2 was exactly what we all worried about. Half court offense in the playoffs and they struggled to score. That team is built for the regular season.

i really really enjoyed that team. but by the time the all-star game rolled around i was willing to take the risk of the deal. that team had come real far but i just didn't see the potential with it down the road. gallo, will, ray all good players. moz hopefully some day a good player. we needed another couple of higher caliber players imo to get to the next level.

Phuch that! They the enemy now! Dats right, Phuck the Nuggets man! Snow cap eating Blake Carrington Dynasty loving MOFO'S!