BigSm00th wrote:

holfresh wrote:
MDA said Magic was one of the best players in the game and he never played defense...He said the Lakers gave up 104 pts per game and still won Championships..He said in PHX the point differential was 7/8 pts and was a good team...He says the Knicks are only have a 1 pt differential...We have to score more....

showtime lakers played in a different era.

how many hall of famers did they have? how many teams were there in the league?

i gotta hand it to MDA he is convinced his style can work. i hope he is right!

What's so surprising about needing Hall of Fame players to win a championship? Take a look at the rosters of the champions in prior years. This is not a new concept.

I thought if he bought into the system or matured into it he could have been great in a year or so.

He was needed to facilitate the trade.

Great coaches are very stubborn and have a high conviction in what they do.

Lose battles to win the war.

As much change as we have had I don't think it warrants him going.

YOu don't go out and get Melo and Amare then change your posture to ball control and defense.

YOu don't build a sports car then complain it don't drive like a Sedan De Ville!

Marv wrote:

Nalod wrote:
Its also like those who love the melo trade and hate moving AR.

I thought if he bought into the system or matured into it he could have been great in a year or so.

He was needed to facilitate the trade.

Great coaches are very stubborn and have a high conviction in what they do.

Lose battles to win the war.

As much change as we have had I don't think it warrants him going.

YOu don't go out and get Melo and Amare then change your posture to ball control and defense.

YOu don't build a sports car then complain it don't drive like a Sedan De Ville!

you don’t bang kim kardashian and then complain that she doesn't discuss world politics with you.

where's the Like button?

martin wrote:

franco12 wrote:

BigSm00th wrote:

holfresh wrote:
MDA said Magic was one of the best players in the game and he never played defense...He said the Lakers gave up 104 pts per game and still won Championships..He said in PHX the point differential was 7/8 pts and was a good team...He says the Knicks are only have a 1 pt differential...We have to score more....

showtime lakers played in a different era.

how many hall of famers did they have? how many teams were there in the league?

i gotta hand it to MDA he is convinced his style can work. i hope he is right!

I'm not finding a season that Magic's Lakers gave up as few as 104 - it appears they were always around the average for points allowed, but well above average scoring.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/

Now- D'Antoni's problem is we aren't an average defense & I bet if you adjusted the numbers for the Lakers for pace, they would be seen as above average defense.

just into the team to see their offensive/defensive ratings.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/1988.html

Seems to me LAL was always #1 or #2 offense and anywhere between #7-10 on the defensive side.

And if we were able to get to the same place with D'Antoni, I think all the MDA critics would be ecstatic.

But while we have a number one offense, we have a last place defense. Out west, we don't make the play offs and we're Golden State.

franco12 wrote:

martin wrote:

franco12 wrote:

BigSm00th wrote:

holfresh wrote:
MDA said Magic was one of the best players in the game and he never played defense...He said the Lakers gave up 104 pts per game and still won Championships..He said in PHX the point differential was 7/8 pts and was a good team...He says the Knicks are only have a 1 pt differential...We have to score more....

showtime lakers played in a different era.

how many hall of famers did they have? how many teams were there in the league?

i gotta hand it to MDA he is convinced his style can work. i hope he is right!

I'm not finding a season that Magic's Lakers gave up as few as 104 - it appears they were always around the average for points allowed, but well above average scoring.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/

Now- D'Antoni's problem is we aren't an average defense & I bet if you adjusted the numbers for the Lakers for pace, they would be seen as above average defense.

just into the team to see their offensive/defensive ratings.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/1988.html

Seems to me LAL was always #1 or #2 offense and anywhere between #7-10 on the defensive side.

And if we were able to get to the same place with D'Antoni, I think all the MDA critics would be ecstatic.

But while we have a number one offense, we have a last place defense. Out west, we don't make the play offs and we're Golden State.

Yeah it's been posted here on quite a few occasions teams who have won chips over the past 25-30yrs had Top 10 defenses. I think there was only 1 team who didn't. For the record George Karl has produced some very successful offensive teams recently including this year. Consistently has got teams to win 50gms+ no matter where he's gone, has had one of the best defensive teams in NBA history, has been to the Finals and CF on several occasions and rarely if ever is he mentioned as a great coach or even elite coach. Throw a stone at D'AnToni for not focusing on defense enough after he's failed to address it front and center but rather sidestep it with trumping up offensive attention and a riot almost breaks out.

If MDA can't take us there with a roster worthy then we move on.

Marv wrote:

Nalod wrote:
Its also like those who love the melo trade and hate moving AR.

I thought if he bought into the system or matured into it he could have been great in a year or so.

He was needed to facilitate the trade.

Great coaches are very stubborn and have a high conviction in what they do.

Lose battles to win the war.

As much change as we have had I don't think it warrants him going.

YOu don't go out and get Melo and Amare then change your posture to ball control and defense.

YOu don't build a sports car then complain it don't drive like a Sedan De Ville!

you don’t bang kim kardashian and then complain that she doesn't discuss world politics with you.

Best analogy of the year.

Hands down.

Our centers are either too shrimpy or too weak. We got nobody over 6'10 of any significant value. Nobody. Jared Jeffries, does not count. You love him because he is ours, but he does not a difference make.

Our slender four is built like a three and our newly acquired three is learning to imitate World B Free

Our starting two is a rookie trying to get his second wind and our Mister Big Shot is 47 years old.

We are a jump shooting squad. We attempt 25 three's a game. They fall, we win.

Damn the defense and the torpedoes, full speed (SSOL) ahead. Outscore the bastards!