orangeblobman wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

orangeblobman wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

orangeblobman wrote:i do not know of rand, i have not read her big, seminal shrugged atlas, but i will say this.

if she is to collect social security, medicaid, at least she earned it.

she contributed to the pool of human ideas a work that set many minds whirring; perhaps, in many millions of years, this will lead to something.

compared to average social security, medicaid recipient, who is utterly worthless, truly worthless in every sense of worthlessness, she can collect.

I'll bet a majority of the posters here from the US have relatives who collect Social Security and Medicare, are they worthless Blob?

are they, gustav? you tell me. what does posting on uk hold as far as a person's worth to humanity?

i do not know.

gustav, i ask you, have you been to "bad" areas of urban, suburban america?

have you worked menial clerk jobs, coming into contact with this social security, medicare underclass? better yet, have you worked white collar medical jobs, coming into contact with this underclass?

not everyone is good, not everyone is the same.

That's not an answer to my question but I'll answer yours. I've worked menial jobs, white collar jobs, I've lived in poor, dangerous, neighborhoods, and very exclusive ones. I've been with and without money. Why do you ask?

i ask because if you have, you have come in contact with this segment, this majority, really.

what do you know to be true?

you may not want to say what is worthless, who is worthless, but if you have experience, and if you are at all true to yourself you will admit what i say.

I know that you seem to very angry at the world and a have very low opinion of people in general. Sometimes I feel the same way about folks but not to the point where I describe those less fortunate as I am as "worthless".

GustavBahler wrote:

orangeblobman wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

orangeblobman wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

orangeblobman wrote:i do not know of rand, i have not read her big, seminal shrugged atlas, but i will say this.

if she is to collect social security, medicaid, at least she earned it.

she contributed to the pool of human ideas a work that set many minds whirring; perhaps, in many millions of years, this will lead to something.

compared to average social security, medicaid recipient, who is utterly worthless, truly worthless in every sense of worthlessness, she can collect.

I'll bet a majority of the posters here from the US have relatives who collect Social Security and Medicare, are they worthless Blob?

are they, gustav? you tell me. what does posting on uk hold as far as a person's worth to humanity?

i do not know.

gustav, i ask you, have you been to "bad" areas of urban, suburban america?

have you worked menial clerk jobs, coming into contact with this social security, medicare underclass? better yet, have you worked white collar medical jobs, coming into contact with this underclass?

not everyone is good, not everyone is the same.

That's not an answer to my question but I'll answer yours. I've worked menial jobs, white collar jobs, I've lived in poor, dangerous, neighborhoods, and very exclusive ones. I've been with and without money. Why do you ask?

i ask because if you have, you have come in contact with this segment, this majority, really.

what do you know to be true?

you may not want to say what is worthless, who is worthless, but if you have experience, and if you are at all true to yourself you will admit what i say.

I know that you seem to very angry at the world and a have very low opinion of people in general. Sometimes I feel the same way about folks but not to the point where I describe those less fortunate as I am as "worthless".

again, i do not see where anger comes into this.

you project anger because that might be what you feel, truly, but it is not relevant here.

i do not see anger. i see what is.

there seems to be great divide within you, gustav, between what is and what you would like it to be.

orangeblobman wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

orangeblobman wrote:my point is that many, if not most, of these people are pure garbage.

so i do not give a crap.

I realize that. It must be very difficult dealing with all that anger.

what anger, gustav?

you imagine anger where there is none, because you cannot reconcile the truth with your delusion. this is the process of your mind. recognize and correct, or do not recognize and continue.

peace, peace, ultimate peace comes and there is no violence when one accepts reality.

People at peace with the world usually don't describe those of limited means as "utterly worthless" and "garbage". If that's your idea of being at peace, more power to ya. Don't forget to tell the government that you won't be collecting any benefits in the future. Take care and good night.

Markji wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:
Today's Tea Party is nothing like the original Boston Tea Party, that was triggered by huge tax breaks for the East India Tea company.

I loved the history lesson of the original Tea Party. Citizens banding together to fight a corrupt corporation supported by the gov't functioning against the rights and freedom of the people. The present Tea Party are a group banded together, supported and encouraged by corrupt corporations, to fight a gov't for the people. Everything is turned upside down.

Like Gustav posted Ayn Rand was hypocrite who only cared about her self interest and was willing to deny others what she thought she was "entitled" to. That in a nutshell is the core of what the Tea Party beleives in. Under all this horse**** being spewed by the right about socialism, America has quietly become a Facist state with a politically motivated Judicial system. They want small Govt. becuase that will create a "power vaccum" and the big corporations will end up gaining power and abusing it even more. Every company can go the Enron route and there will be no retribution and everything will be de-regulated. The mindless idiots will be chanting about self righteous capitalist crap. Welcome to the new normal.