CrushAlot wrote:

misterearl wrote:

VDesai wrote:2nd rounders are a worse than 50-50% proposition. Be happy we hit on one.

+6

Andy Rautins and Lavor Postell are the same dude.

I think Rautins had some home cooking somewhere. He doesn't appear to have the game to compete at the NBA level and that never changed from day 1 of the summer leagues as far as I saw. He was considered a guy that might not get drafted and he came into the league at the old age of 24. I do think this was a bad pick but I also didn't like the Fields pick at the time either.

You were not alone. NO ONE liked the selection of Landry Fields because we rarely look beyond what the so-called "experts" tell us.

The same people who questioned DeJuan Blair's health and height probably think Jamie Skeen belongs at the bottom of the second round.

CrushAlot wrote:

misterearl wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

misterearl wrote:

VDesai wrote:2nd rounders are a worse than 50-50% proposition. Be happy we hit on one.

+6

Andy Rautins and Lavor Postell are the same dude.

I think Rautins had some home cooking somewhere. He doesn't appear to have the game to compete at the NBA level and that never changed from day 1 of the summer leagues as far as I saw. He was considered a guy that might not get drafted and he came into the league at the old age of 24. I do think this was a bad pick but I also didn't like the Fields pick at the time either.

You were not alone. NO ONE liked the selection of Landry Fields because we rarely look beyond what the so-called "experts" tell us.

The same people who questioned DeJuan Blair's health and height probably think Jamie Skeen belongs at the bottom of the second round.

Knicks should have taken Blair or Buddinger where they drafted Douglas. I remember some other guys on here that felt the same way at the time of that draft. The Blair thing drove me crazy. Some guys are so over analyzed. Blair may have a shortened career but he is going to be a very good player for 5-8 years. I always saw Blair as a sure thing it was just a matter of how long he held up.

5 years ago when it was rumored that Ray Allen was available, people on here were saying no he has Knee issues he's gonna break down.

Ray Allen is a freaking iron man. A freak of nature. Many passed on Danny Granger because of alleged knee issues the year we drafted Channing Frye.

misterearl wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

misterearl wrote:

VDesai wrote:2nd rounders are a worse than 50-50% proposition. Be happy we hit on one.

+6

Andy Rautins and Lavor Postell are the same dude.

I think Rautins had some home cooking somewhere. He doesn't appear to have the game to compete at the NBA level and that never changed from day 1 of the summer leagues as far as I saw. He was considered a guy that might not get drafted and he came into the league at the old age of 24. I do think this was a bad pick but I also didn't like the Fields pick at the time either.

You were not alone. NO ONE liked the selection of Landry Fields because we rarely look beyond what the so-called "experts" tell us.

The same people who questioned DeJuan Blair's health and height probably think Jamie Skeen belongs at the bottom of the second round.

Loved the Fields pick. Knicks should always look at super productive, highly efficient players from major conferences. Fields doesn't look like a basketball player when he's standing around- scouts rely too much on the eye test instead of results.

tj23 wrote:I think Rautins can be a solid player. He's more athletic than people give him credit for. He's fairly quick and elusive and is a decent playmaker with a high bball iq.

No he's not. If he were, at 6'4" with his stroke, he'd be playing more minutes. He's undersized and slow at SG. He's super Slow at pg. He's not a playmaker, his handle is decent. I don't know about his bball IQ, but with the aforementioned limitations, its irrelevant.

Killa4luv wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Killa4luv wrote:I don't think Rautins is an NBA player. He's undersized, not fast enough or strong enough. Doesn't have the handle or quickness for PG.
We shouldn't have drafted him, but we did because we have a coach who values the 3 above all else. We should have choosen a big who was a project.

You mean like Jerome Jordan? Seriously though, to get all upset over a second round pick is a little absurd.

Whats absurd is to infer that I'm "all upset." lol.
I think he was a bad pick, but in hindsight, with MOZ and Jerome James, I supoose it wasn't such bad pick.

Sorry, I was amazed at the time how many people were upset with the pick. Some of the reactions, you'd think we picked Bowie over Jordan.

tj23 wrote:

Killa4luv wrote:

tj23 wrote:I think Rautins can be a solid player. He's more athletic than people give him credit for. He's fairly quick and elusive and is a decent playmaker with a high bball iq.

No he's not. If he were, at 6'4" with his stroke, he'd be playing more minutes. He's undersized and slow at SG. He's super Slow at pg. He's not a playmaker, his handle is decent. I don't know about his bball IQ, but with the aforementioned limitations, its irrelevant.

What does the amount of minutes him playing have to do with anything? Shawne Williams didn't see any minutes for how long? DAntoni plays cot damn useless jared jeffries. I said he could be a solid player, which doesn't require any kind of superior athleticism. If Douglas and his pee size brain can play big minutes at PG then there's no reason Andy can't do it. He's a much more natural point and ten times the passer Toney is.

Andy Rautins has only proven to be a turnover machine at the NBA level. He had his dribble picked with shocking regularity.

He better fix that element of his game, and quick.

misterearl wrote:The Knicks need to replenish the international diversity lost with Gallo, Randolph and Mozgov.

Jonas Valanciunas of Lithuania may be gone by the time the Knicks are on the clock but...

You want a chant?

Imagine the Garden chanting "Nikola" to the tune of "Ree-ko-la."

Nikola Mirotic 6'10 225, Montenegro

"... played for the Bronze Medalist FIBA Europe Under-20 Spanish team leading the squad in scoring ...

Strength: Possesses tremendous amount of skill for a player of his age and height ... An adept outside shooter who possesses a quick release and good form ... Has a mature game for his age as he is able to recognize a strong closeout from a defender and pump fake the defender and put it on the floor and go to the hole or take a one dribble mid-range jumper ... Is a good dribbler for a player his height ... Has long arms and has the nose for the ball and possesses good hands ... Has surprisingly good passing skills on the fast break for a player of his height ...

Weaknesses: Lacks the body strength to do much inside (that can be fixed)... Most of his interior scoring is done on broken plays and offensive rebounds ... While his scoring ability is very advanced, he needs to focus on developing other aspects of his game so he can become a more complete player ... - NBADraft.net

He may not be around by the time the Knicks pick. Some mock drafts have him going as high as 3.

CashMoney wrote:

misterearl wrote:The Knicks need to replenish the international diversity lost with Gallo, Randolph and Mozgov.

Jonas Valanciunas of Lithuania may be gone by the time the Knicks are on the clock but...

You want a chant?

Imagine the Garden chanting "Nikola" to the tune of "Ree-ko-la."

Nikola Mirotic 6'10 225, Montenegro

"... played for the Bronze Medalist FIBA Europe Under-20 Spanish team leading the squad in scoring ...

Strength: Possesses tremendous amount of skill for a player of his age and height ... An adept outside shooter who possesses a quick release and good form ... Has a mature game for his age as he is able to recognize a strong closeout from a defender and pump fake the defender and put it on the floor and go to the hole or take a one dribble mid-range jumper ... Is a good dribbler for a player his height ... Has long arms and has the nose for the ball and possesses good hands ... Has surprisingly good passing skills on the fast break for a player of his height ...

Weaknesses: Lacks the body strength to do much inside (that can be fixed)... Most of his interior scoring is done on broken plays and offensive rebounds ... While his scoring ability is very advanced, he needs to focus on developing other aspects of his game so he can become a more complete player ... - NBADraft.net

He may not be around by the time the Knicks pick. Some mock drafts have him going as high as 3.

who you gonna trust, some mock draft put together by some putz in his basement, or The Answer Man?

Repeat after me, "Ni-ko-la!"