holfresh wrote:Paladin55 wrote:holfresh wrote:Knicks were a horrible defensive team long before Carmelo got here..Now Carmelo is being blamed for the Knicks defensive liabilities ..McAdoo didn't lead The Braves to consecutive playoff appearances...McAdoo as a soft player that didn't rebound...Carmelo is a proven playoff playoff performer.. The guy post and drivers the ball..I would even say he is our best passer.. Amare is looking like Marvin Webster out there..U wanna blame Carmelo for that too?
For what it is worth he averaged about 13 RPG in his prime before the injuries slowed him down. During that time he also averaged close to 2 BPG. He had 9.4 RPG for his career, by the way, and late in his career he helped the Lakers win a couple of titles as a valuable role player. He, like Amare, was also playing out of position at the C position.
The team, all in all, has not played better ball since Billups and Anthony arrived, and it would seem that the trade has not helped guys like Amare, who was the focus of the pre-trade team, and Fields, who seems to be a forgotten man at times.
We have not become a better team since the trade, while Denver has, and I'll let you reach your own conclusions, which, from what I can see, don't seem to be based on what has actually transpired since the trade.
What is it, instant gratification...If this team doesn't come together right now your gonna pout..Did we really make a bad trade...Were we well on our way with the other players...Everything has to happen right all the time for us to know we are on the right path?...Or is it the man crush on Gallo that most of you seems to be hung up on...You really believe that Melo and STAT isn't a good foundation to start with?...You think its Melo and Billup fault Amare seems to be playing with hurt knees or seemed runned down from playing too many minutes...U worried about Fields? The kid will be fine, he will adjust and it's not about him either...Sit back and relax and watch the team come together...All we need is a point guard and a healthy Amare to compete..Patients....I'm going off what I remembered about McAdoo which is he was soft...
I don't think that Anthony and Amare are a good foundation, and I've said it before. We gave up too much for him, and they are too similar in style, including their weaknesses.
As for instant gratification- that also goes for people who think that Gallinari, now playing in his 2nd full season, was not progressing fast enough because he was not playing like Larry Bird.
I do find it interesting that when you look at both teams- Denver and the Knicks- one has improved with the subtraction of two stars and the infusion of younger talent, while the other has fallen back with the addition of those same 2 stars and subtraction of the players who many on UK have devalued.
Hard to quantify teamwork, when people are so consumed with numbers, but the numbers don't look good for the Knicks, while the Nuggets have not missed a step- keeping up their scoring while showing a 10% drop in points allowed since the trade.
So lets see- we seem to have gotten worse as a team, and unless we unload the weight of Billups' contract next year, we will probably have no cap room, and may not be able to get the next star everyone wants because there may be a franchise tag instituted in the NBA.
Add to that the fact that we have become a boring 1/1 type team.
Yeah... things are looking bright for the Knickos... Yup.
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