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3/25/2011  4:35 PM
fishmike wrote:
martin wrote:
Nalod wrote:Good value. More than two cents worth!

Since logic does not run at MSG I have no Idea what will happen with Donnie.

It would seem Donnie is on his way out but I think its on him if he wants to stay. Just a hunch. If Jimmy went around him on the trade and he was not down with it then he will walk and do so with honor and dignity. Which means we'll never know the truth. Donnie is first class.

I think for sure MDA gets to play out his contract and has to make good on the roster he will get unless there is another blockbuster trade mid year.

I could see MDA also leaving on his own if there is another attractive job. The guy can coach but I would say the circumstances behine his tenure here has been less than ideal.

Not to say he has done a flawless job by any standard but 127 players on his roster in three years (Sorry I can't reference that figure) is a challange and some of the players are not what you'd call "a delight to coach"!

Most things are usually boring so a big Walsh story is not gong to happen. He'll stay quietly or go the same.

Question: There may be legitimate reasons for Dolan to want Melo in NY ASAP re ticket pricing, marketing $, competition with Brooklyn opening which means eyeballs. So, Nalod, if you were GM and Dolan gave you those business reasons as to why he wanted the Melo deal done, would you understand them in the face of your basketball operations and be OK with it and proceed completely willingly? Or would you only act as a purist and dislike Dolan to the Nth degree? Or somewhere in between?

EDIT: followup. If Dolan said he would be completely hands off after the 2 stars were in place, how would that effect your decision to stay/go?

its not always the answers its the questions and these are GREAT questions. This is my hope Martin, that Walsh, while not liking to trade all the guys he brought in UNDERSTANDS that just like players get traded (its a business) that GMs get pushed into moves they dont love because of the same business.

GOD, I'm hoping that Dolan's MO at this point is we have our two all stars to sell tickets, etc.. now Donnie go build us a TEAM.

I can live with that.

for all of the Dolan bashing that goes around, Melo deal was the first I have heard where he injected himself into trade talks in recent history. do I recall correctly when I say he intervened with regards to Sprewell? but you know what, that's kind of understandable. Perhaps Camby too?

During Isiah's complete reign, dude made a million trades and spent an ungoldly amount of luxury tax money with barely a peep from Dolan (same with Layden's tenure?), I don't know what more you could ask for as a sitting GM. As fans, we certainly have questions about whether Dolan should have fired Isiah earlier, but that's a different matter.

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3/25/2011  4:37 PM
martin wrote:
fishmike wrote:
martin wrote:
Nalod wrote:Good value. More than two cents worth!

Since logic does not run at MSG I have no Idea what will happen with Donnie.

It would seem Donnie is on his way out but I think its on him if he wants to stay. Just a hunch. If Jimmy went around him on the trade and he was not down with it then he will walk and do so with honor and dignity. Which means we'll never know the truth. Donnie is first class.

I think for sure MDA gets to play out his contract and has to make good on the roster he will get unless there is another blockbuster trade mid year.

I could see MDA also leaving on his own if there is another attractive job. The guy can coach but I would say the circumstances behine his tenure here has been less than ideal.

Not to say he has done a flawless job by any standard but 127 players on his roster in three years (Sorry I can't reference that figure) is a challange and some of the players are not what you'd call "a delight to coach"!

Most things are usually boring so a big Walsh story is not gong to happen. He'll stay quietly or go the same.

Question: There may be legitimate reasons for Dolan to want Melo in NY ASAP re ticket pricing, marketing $, competition with Brooklyn opening which means eyeballs. So, Nalod, if you were GM and Dolan gave you those business reasons as to why he wanted the Melo deal done, would you understand them in the face of your basketball operations and be OK with it and proceed completely willingly? Or would you only act as a purist and dislike Dolan to the Nth degree? Or somewhere in between?

EDIT: followup. If Dolan said he would be completely hands off after the 2 stars were in place, how would that effect your decision to stay/go?

its not always the answers its the questions and these are GREAT questions. This is my hope Martin, that Walsh, while not liking to trade all the guys he brought in UNDERSTANDS that just like players get traded (its a business) that GMs get pushed into moves they dont love because of the same business.

GOD, I'm hoping that Dolan's MO at this point is we have our two all stars to sell tickets, etc.. now Donnie go build us a TEAM.

I can live with that.

for all of the Dolan bashing that goes around, Melo deal was the first I have heard where he injected himself into trade talks in recent history. do I recall correctly when I say he intervened with regards to Sprewell? but you know what, that's kind of understandable. Perhaps Camby too?

During Isiah's complete reign, dude made a million trades and spent an ungoldly amount of luxury tax money with barely a peep from Dolan (same with Layden's tenure?), I don't know what more you could ask for as a sitting GM. As fans, we certainly have questions about whether Dolan should have fired Isiah earlier, but that's a different matter.

For all the Dolan bashing I really think he wants to put a championship team on the court.

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