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orangeblobman
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3/23/2011  7:19 AM
After this is all done, we will be begging teams to take melo. Exposed.
WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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3/23/2011  7:23 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/23/2011  7:24 AM
Briggs, crack is whack, bro.
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3/23/2011  8:02 AM
tj23 wrote:
martin wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:You create the worst threads on this site after Childs2fugly.

Hey man, if you don't have any to add, please don't. We don't really need the above. Thanks.


This thread has nothing to add. What a joke.

lmao!

After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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3/23/2011  8:08 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Give them a STAR back

picks 3 10 and our own 17


Look to trade Amare next year for a similar deal


start over

Try being serious.

I agree the trade was bad in the sense that we really didn't need Melo and gave up too much to get him.

Now, what might work is retooling over the summer and if things aren't working out, trading him over to the Nets for Deron Williams - doubt we can get them to do more than straight up, though given that Melo is signed and they might lose Deron for nothing could provide us some leverage to recover lost value.

You've got to give it time - but like investing, you've got to know your exit strategy, and you're right that we probably don't have one.

I wonder if anyone in management & Dolan's inner circle are having even a hint of a second thought at this point...

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3/23/2011  8:51 AM
franco12 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Give them a STAR back

picks 3 10 and our own 17


Look to trade Amare next year for a similar deal


start over

Try being serious.

I agree the trade was bad in the sense that we really didn't need Melo and gave up too much to get him.

Now, what might work is retooling over the summer and if things aren't working out, trading him over to the Nets for Deron Williams - doubt we can get them to do more than straight up, though given that Melo is signed and they might lose Deron for nothing could provide us some leverage to recover lost value.

You've got to give it time - but like investing, you've got to know your exit strategy, and you're right that we probably don't have one.

I wonder if anyone in management & Dolan's inner circle are having even a hint of a second thought at this point...

man... all things Dolan touches turn to poop. The day he gives Isiah a big extension the team plays like .200 basktball and he's mired in a sexual harrasment suit. Dolan gets involved in the Melo trade, gives up the farm, raises ticket prices and the KNicks cant beat the worst teams in the NBA
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3/23/2011  8:59 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/23/2011  9:01 AM
joec32033 wrote:Briggs, crack is whack, bro.

I want you to stop & think. yes this deal is not happening--I know that its all fantasy(message boards right) but I tell you this is the direction I would go in IF I could. Why--I knew this deal scked the minute we did it and ANYONE who thinks this will work is just flat wrong--I think it may get worse!! If you are old enough to remember--we had BETTER players back in the later 70's Macadoo in his prime pearl frazier Spencer haywood and they could not even go .5. this team is similar yet not as talented. we DO NOT have two stars on our team MIAMI does. carmelo IS NOT a star player. hes a volume scorer who DOES not have an all around game--ACCCEPT it live it breath it HES NOT a super star hes a really good player with a funky name/
We DID not need him and now people who liked the deal are not looking a t reality but rather defending their position in light of overwhelming evidence this deal scked!

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3/23/2011  9:01 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Give them a STAR back

picks 3 10 and our own 17


Look to trade Amare next year for a similar deal


start over

Like henry hill said to tommy in good fellas

YOU REALLY ARE A FUNNY GUY...AHHHHHH.HAHAHAHA

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3/23/2011  9:10 AM
damnit

I thought this was another thread about whiskey

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3/23/2011  9:35 AM
If it's a bottle of Jamie in the trade, we should totally do it.
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3/23/2011  10:10 AM
Just realized Briggs, Bonn and Blobman are together on this belief. Maybe you should start a religion, guys.
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3/23/2011  11:13 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
joec32033 wrote:Briggs, crack is whack, bro.

I want you to stop & think. yes this deal is not happening--I know that its all fantasy(message boards right) but I tell you this is the direction I would go in IF I could. Why--I knew this deal scked the minute we did it and ANYONE who thinks this will work is just flat wrong--I think it may get worse!! If you are old enough to remember--we had BETTER players back in the later 70's Macadoo in his prime pearl frazier Spencer haywood and they could not even go .5. this team is similar yet not as talented. we DO NOT have two stars on our team MIAMI does. carmelo IS NOT a star player. hes a volume scorer who DOES not have an all around game--ACCCEPT it live it breath it HES NOT a super star hes a really good player with a funky name/
We DID not need him and now people who liked the deal are not looking a t reality but rather defending their position in light of overwhelming evidence this deal scked!

I didn't like the deal either. I wanted Melo as a FA this summer, so we could retain depth. But...

IF Walsh's plan has been based on the wedding toast – I’m not saying it IS, only if… – then we would have let go our young roster players anyway, in a cap clearing effort, a fact dictated by the salaries of a three amigos roster (a la Miami). Based on that model, we would then do a similar rebuild around that core of stars by adding vets as they come available and getting talented yoots in the draft.

I like our chances with CP3 running the point. He is the best play-maker in the NBA, Amare is the best PF, and Melo is one of the best wings (certainly at scoring). If Melo actually grows as a man and player, he might further enhance his game, but this plan isn’t dependent on it.

I doubt MDA will make it much further, especially if Walsh retires or moves back to Indiana. I could easily see Phil J. or Rudy T., or Doc or Skiles deciding it’s time to come coach in the Mecca. I always thought MDA was a “name” coach intended mainly to draw star players here (i.e., they all played for him in the Olympics recently).

Walsh was the right management piece for the rebuild. He had patience, knowledge, drafting chops, and HUGE cajones. He did a remarkably good job. My only complaints were the dumb McGrady trade to dump Fishlips’ contract that cost us Jordan Hill (we should have picked Jennings), and giving up Gallo. Those were his primary blunders. Getting Melo was the right move for us long-term, as JVG recently said in an interview.

Have patience, my friends, and try optimism/hope/positivity. The sky is NOT falling, not yet at least. The Knicks are on the way back. Stat is the perfect leader for NYC. Melo will be a sidekick at the Garden really soon. The role players (vets et al) will come around. We will get to the promised land.

Can I get a “Hallelujah!” from the choir?

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3/23/2011  12:33 PM
Melo is a cancer, addition by subtraction. Subtract his massive cap off our roster and retool. The trade was a horrible mistake. Changing the coach will not help.
Rose is not the answer.
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3/23/2011  2:43 PM
Ill still check out the team from time to time and look at the draft--but its too bad such a strong fan of over 38 years is fed up with the way things r. I don't mind losing--I just despise the way things are run--this is not for the fan and it really hasnt been in 12 years. College basketball and good NBA games will suffice--its just not fun watching the Knicks anymore. In 38 years I never said that once in good or bad times. too bad anyone has to feel that way but it is what it is.
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3/23/2011  3:32 PM
knickstorrents wrote:Melo is a cancer, addition by subtraction. Subtract his massive cap off our roster and retool. The trade was a horrible mistake. Changing the coach will not help.

How is Melo cancer? The guy spent over 7 years in Denver and never had a problem.

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3/23/2011  4:33 PM
What, no abstract 2nd rounders?

And a trade we are not sending $3mm of Jimmys money?

Someone here once said of Briggs trade threads: "Brigg-a-Doomed"

Briggs, Your not incorrect but then you know what you suggest ain't never gonna happen. In fact we do the opposite.

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3/23/2011  4:36 PM
Nalod wrote:What, no abstract 2nd rounders?

And a trade we are not sending $3mm of Jimmys money?

Someone here once said of Briggs trade threads: "Brigg-a-Doomed"

Briggs, Your not incorrect but then you know what you suggest ain't never gonna happen. In fact we do the opposite.

Don't encourage him...

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3/23/2011  6:07 PM
HELLZ MFing no...wow...
Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
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3/23/2011  6:26 PM
Any trade discussions of this type are completely out of the realm of reality for the following reasons:

1. No way Knicks Management/Dolan would admit a mistake with the biggest trade since Starks for Sprewell after only a 1/4 of a season.

2. You can't trade anyone until july 1st.

3. The new CBA rules are expected to be drastically different and therefore, we can't even fathom what will be allowed under those future rules.

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3/23/2011  6:30 PM
nyvector16 wrote:Any trade discussions of this type are completely out of the realm of reality for the following reasons:

1. No way Knicks Management/Dolan would admit a mistake with the biggest trade since Starks for Sprewell after only a 1/4 of a season.

2. You can't trade anyone until july 1st.

3. The new CBA rules are expected to be drastically different and therefore, we can't even fathom what will be allowed under those future rules.

I agree. I also would add that the franchise wants nothing to do with rebuilding in the traditional way and the coach wouldn't play the picks.
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3/23/2011  9:25 PM
CashMoney wrote:
knickstorrents wrote:Melo is a cancer, addition by subtraction. Subtract his massive cap off our roster and retool. The trade was a horrible mistake. Changing the coach will not help.

How is Melo cancer? The guy spent over 7 years in Denver and never had a problem.

a guy that's led his team to 7 straight playoff appearances & a WCF while being 1 of the best players in the game is a cancer... makes perfect sense.

After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
Melo for Clev's lotter picks and jamison

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