CashMoney wrote:Gallo and Wilson did their thing last night. The Nuggets put up 123 points with Gallo and Chandler combinining for 21. Man, take those two off the team and the Nuggets only win 101-90. Seriously though, can people stop moaning about the trade and look at what the players we gave up are actually doing in Denver?

Just losing Carmelo was a huge gain for them.

Bonn1997 wrote:

CashMoney wrote:Gallo and Wilson did their thing last night. The Nuggets put up 123 points with Gallo and Chandler combinining for 21. Man, take those two off the team and the Nuggets only win 101-90. Seriously though, can people stop moaning about the trade and look at what the players we gave up are actually doing in Denver?

Just losing Carmelo was a huge gain for them.

Yeah I'm sure come playoff time they won't miss him at all.

CashMoney wrote:Did anyone actually watch the game last night? They should have won and the defense was again not to blame. Turnovers late in the game and dumb shots were the cause of the loss last night. The defense has been better as of late.

Yes, I did. And I seem to recall we played them tough before with our group.

Didn't Melo also disappear in the second half?

And was it our defense, or were the Celts just off their game?

I am noticing last nite they tried to integrate Lando more in the flow.

I don't care to label to the trade as its still going to take 3 seasons to fully evaluate.

Knixkik wrote:Another one of these. This is sad. I have to be honest, Briggs, i saw you as one of the most knowledgeable fans on this board, but you have lost most credibility with your comments relating to the trade the last few weeks. To say the trade is poor at this point in the process is just immature, especially when we were just a .500 team before the trade with little upside to ever be more than an early-exit playoff team. It is a rebuilding phase, let it happen first.

If Im so stupid--why do we sck? This is not going to be changed anytime soon. This was way to big of a deal--you dont do these types of deals unless the other name ion the end of the line is Shaq and his birthdate coming up makes him 24.

Depth can win. We had all the pieces. We had youth and size at every position. We even had a star to lead and he was. Now we have a grumpy baby making $20mm plus. We gave up good players that want to be here, were drafted here.

You reap what you sow.

I'm Melo is going to carry us in the playoffs, just like last night. I cant wait. I'm excited. I am. Really.

fishmike wrote:yea.. Chandler played SG guard last night and DESTROYED Derozen.

Depth can win. We had all the pieces. We had youth and size at every position. We even had a star to lead and he was. Now we have a grumpy baby making $20mm plus. We gave up good players that want to be here, were drafted here.

You reap what you sow.

I'm Melo is going to carry us in the playoffs, just like last night. I cant wait. I'm excited. I am. Really.

Like Derozen is D-Wade or something LOL. I wouldn't call outscoring Derozen by 2 points and getting 6 more boards as DESTROYING anyone, especially when Derozen played less than 20 minutes.

100% Melo's fault the Knicks lost last night. It had absolutely nothing to do with Billups or TD. Melo must have some sort of mind control power that allows him to enter the brains of other players on the team that makes them play like crap come crunch time. Games are won and lost as a team yet whenever the Knicks lose it's Melo's fault.

Nalod wrote:Melo looks like Amare did in the fist 11 games this season and is forcing his shot too often. there is a time to Iso and a time for team ball. He is just not in the flow. Billups being the floor general does not help because he too is trying to be agressive, feed Melo and above all get Amare.

I am noticing last nite they tried to integrate Lando more in the flow.

I don't care to label to the trade as its still going to take 3 seasons to fully evaluate.

Papabear Says

By that time Melo's contract will be up!! Then What? Melo may go to Brooklyn

Papabear wrote:

Nalod wrote:Melo looks like Amare did in the fist 11 games this season and is forcing his shot too often. there is a time to Iso and a time for team ball. He is just not in the flow. Billups being the floor general does not help because he too is trying to be agressive, feed Melo and above all get Amare.

I am noticing last nite they tried to integrate Lando more in the flow.

I don't care to label to the trade as its still going to take 3 seasons to fully evaluate.

Papabear Says

By that time Melo's contract will be up!! Then What? Melo may go to Brooklyn

At least we'll have the benefit of hindsight!

I did not want this trade in the way it was done but its done.

I thought last nite the team playerd very well except for Melo down the stretch. The finish did not do his job. Im more concerned about the TEAM game and it looked better.

They don't know how to win because the chemistry is not there. They got tight and Carmelo got stupid by forcing his shot.

In pre-melo days one never knew who the hero would be. He has to learn to trust his team. I thought Billups made a few turnovers down the stretch.

CashMoney wrote:

fishmike wrote:

CashMoney wrote:

fishmike wrote:yea.. Chandler played SG guard last night and DESTROYED Derozen.

Depth can win. We had all the pieces. We had youth and size at every position. We even had a star to lead and he was. Now we have a grumpy baby making $20mm plus. We gave up good players that want to be here, were drafted here.

You reap what you sow.

I'm Melo is going to carry us in the playoffs, just like last night. I cant wait. I'm excited. I am. Really.

Like Derozen is D-Wade or something LOL. I wouldn't call outscoring Derozen by 2 points and getting 6 more boards as DESTROYING anyone, especially when Derozen played less than 20 minutes.

100% Melo's fault the Knicks lost last night. It had absolutely nothing to do with Billups or TD. Melo must have some sort of mind control power that allows him to enter the brains of other players on the team that makes them play like crap come crunch time. Games are won and lost as a team yet whenever the Knicks lose it's Melo's fault.

you really dont get it. Yea.. its on Melo more than anyone else. We trade the team for a star and a finisher. He hit a shot in the 4th qtr last night? Would you say Melo has been the player you hoped? Do you notice a difference in the way Amare conducted himself when the Knicks started 3-8 vs how Melo conducts himself? It goes beyond TEAM. Thats the point. Before it was the team. Now its about an oversold player who isnt what he was sold as.

Did Melo force his way here? Force our owner to give up half the roster and sign him to an extension paying him like Kobe? Is Melo free of responsibility?

Its all about Melo because guys like you made it all about him. Now your blaming Toney Douglas? TD has done his job quite well of late. Has Melo done his?

Melo didn't force anyone to do anything. He had a ton of money on the table that he wouldn't have got withouth the extension. He didn't hold a gun to anyones head and said pull the trigger on the deal. The Knicks wanted him, knew the price and pulled the trigger. Did Melo name the players in the deal? Was Melo acting as GM of the Knicks or Nuggets? Melo didn't sell himself as anything, the media did! Anyone with half a brain knew that Melo coming in wasn't going to be like MJ coming to the Garden.

I'm happy that he's here and am excited about building the team around him and STAT. It's been a total of 16 games and around 3 weeks, certainly not enough time to say the trade was good/bad or make a decision on what type of player or person Melo is going to be for the next 4 years. The guy is far from perfect and will have bad games just like any other player. Denver is not NYC and it will take time for Melo to understand and deal with it.

Melo's been struggling a bit but is to be expected. He's never had to sacrfice his game before and it's going to take time for him to figure it out. At the end of the day there are going to be people like you that, no matter what Melo does, you'll always have something negative to say. Basketball is a team game, always has been always will. When he has a monster game it wil be that he didn't play D. When he scores and rebounds it will be that he didn't have enough assists. When he hits a game winning shot it will be he's supposed to make the game winning shot.

It's not Melo's fault that people like you feel the Knicks gave up to much. The Knicks made a choice and pulled the trigger on the deal. If you don't like the deal it's fine. You can continue to live in the past, dream about what could have been and blame every loss on Melo. I continue to support my guy aka Carmelo Anthony.

Melo is a excelent marketing move which will make Dolan and MSG a ton of money.
This organization is not about bbal. It is about entertainment business.
Look at all moves we made - Stat-mania, Melo-drama, Chanky - mister big shot, hupla aroung Landry and Andy show, Wiliams and Mayson reclamation projects, Turiaf bird...
Brilliant!!!

CashMoney wrote:

fishmike wrote:

CashMoney wrote:

fishmike wrote:yea.. Chandler played SG guard last night and DESTROYED Derozen.

Depth can win. We had all the pieces. We had youth and size at every position. We even had a star to lead and he was. Now we have a grumpy baby making $20mm plus. We gave up good players that want to be here, were drafted here.

You reap what you sow.

I'm Melo is going to carry us in the playoffs, just like last night. I cant wait. I'm excited. I am. Really.

Like Derozen is D-Wade or something LOL. I wouldn't call outscoring Derozen by 2 points and getting 6 more boards as DESTROYING anyone, especially when Derozen played less than 20 minutes.

100% Melo's fault the Knicks lost last night. It had absolutely nothing to do with Billups or TD. Melo must have some sort of mind control power that allows him to enter the brains of other players on the team that makes them play like crap come crunch time. Games are won and lost as a team yet whenever the Knicks lose it's Melo's fault.

you really dont get it. Yea.. its on Melo more than anyone else. We trade the team for a star and a finisher. He hit a shot in the 4th qtr last night? Would you say Melo has been the player you hoped? Do you notice a difference in the way Amare conducted himself when the Knicks started 3-8 vs how Melo conducts himself? It goes beyond TEAM. Thats the point. Before it was the team. Now its about an oversold player who isnt what he was sold as.

Did Melo force his way here? Force our owner to give up half the roster and sign him to an extension paying him like Kobe? Is Melo free of responsibility?

Its all about Melo because guys like you made it all about him. Now your blaming Toney Douglas? TD has done his job quite well of late. Has Melo done his?

Melo didn't force anyone to do anything. He had a ton of money on the table that he wouldn't have got withouth the extension. He didn't hold a gun to anyones head and said pull the trigger on the deal. The Knicks wanted him, knew the price and pulled the trigger. Did Melo name the players in the deal? Was Melo acting as GM of the Knicks or Nuggets? Melo didn't sell himself as anything, the media did! Anyone with half a brain knew that Melo coming in wasn't going to be like MJ coming to the Garden.

I'm happy that he's here and am excited about building the team around him and STAT. It's been a total of 16 games and around 3 weeks, certainly not enough time to say the trade was good/bad or make a decision on what type of player or person Melo is going to be for the next 4 years. The guy is far from perfect and will have bad games just like any other player. Denver is not NYC and it will take time for Melo to understand and deal with it.

Melo's been struggling a bit but is to be expected. He's never had to sacrfice his game before and it's going to take time for him to figure it out. At the end of the day there are going to be people like you that, no matter what Melo does, you'll always have something negative to say. Basketball is a team game, always has been always will. When he has a monster game it wil be that he didn't play D. When he scores and rebounds it will be that he didn't have enough assists. When he hits a game winning shot it will be he's supposed to make the game winning shot.

It's not Melo's fault that people like you feel the Knicks gave up to much. The Knicks made a choice and pulled the trigger on the deal. If you don't like the deal it's fine. You can continue to live in the past, dream about what could have been and blame every loss on Melo. I continue to support my guy aka Carmelo Anthony.

Melo screwed us when he agreed to sign the extension w/ NJ. That ensured we had to beat the ridiculous package NJ was offering. If not for that Walsh would have waited and gotten a fair deal... maybe Chandler, Fields, Curry, pick, AR, cap relief... etc. Gallo and Mos would still be here.

So yes.. Melo was the gun and it was Dolan pointing it at Walsh. NJ got a better player an ensured the Knicks pay through the roof.

I'm glad you support Melo! Tell him to lift some weights!