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GoNyGoNyGo
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3/23/2011  10:01 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/23/2011  10:03 AM
Paladin55 wrote:
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GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Gallo will be what we want Melo to be now.

dunno what Gallo will be down the road but right now he's a 16 / 6 / 1 player shooting 42% from the field in 30 mpg, 25% from 3 pt range... i wish him much success in Denver too, always thought he was a great kid, but i'm curious what do u think we want Melo to be now that he's not that u think Gallo will become? do u think Gallo will ever be a 25 / 6 / 3 guy in the NBA?


I think he'll go the way the Nuggets/Karl want him to go. The guy wants to be on a winning team, and I'm coming to believe that he really does not care that much about the world of stats.

I still think there is something wrong with his arm/wrist and this has caused him to drive more and shoot from the outside less. Ironically, problems with his 3pt shot will end up making him a more complete player.

How many guys in the league, his size, can go to the basket like he can at this point, and he is still not physically mature, IMO.

Said it before, and now again... some of the guys on UK are going to be eating crow when it comes to Gallo.

3 years from now you will admit that you would rather have him on your team than Anthony.


Answering TMS,

Yes, I think he will become a 25/7/4 player if given the right offensive sets. Included in that is that he will be a TEAM player first always. From what I have seen of him in Denver, his game has already been changed. He is no longer standing there, but instead taking guys off the dribble and getting inside for rebounds.

Time will tell of course, but I think that the mistake made is that he could have been a solid #3 star on a team with STAT and say a DW or CP3, as long as the system required him to be aggressive and not just hoisting 3's. Good things happen when Gallo has the ball.

check out this article on Karl comparing Gallo to Schrempf

http://blogs.denverpost.com/nuggets/2011/02/27/nuggets-coach-george-karl-compares-danilo-gallinari-to-one-of-karl%E2%80%99s-favorite-players/3227/

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3/23/2011  10:05 AM
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
TMS wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Gallo will be what we want Melo to be now.

dunno what Gallo will be down the road but right now he's a 16 / 6 / 1 player shooting 42% from the field in 30 mpg, 25% from 3 pt range... i wish him much success in Denver too, always thought he was a great kid, but i'm curious what do u think we want Melo to be now that he's not that u think Gallo will become? do u think Gallo will ever be a 25 / 6 / 3 guy in the NBA?


I think he'll go the way the Nuggets/Karl want him to go. The guy wants to be on a winning team, and I'm coming to believe that he really does not care that much about the world of stats.

I still think there is something wrong with his arm/wrist and this has caused him to drive more and shoot from the outside less. Ironically, problems with his 3pt shot will end up making him a more complete player.

How many guys in the league, his size, can go to the basket like he can at this point, and he is still not physically mature, IMO.

Said it before, and now again... some of the guys on UK are going to be eating crow when it comes to Gallo.

3 years from now you will admit that you would rather have him on your team than Anthony.


Answering TMS,

Yes, I think he will become a 25/7/4 player if given the right offensive sets. Included in that is that he will be a TEAM player first always. From what I have seen of him in Denver, his game has already been changed. He is no longer standing there, but instead taking guys off the dribble and getting inside for rebounds.

Time will tell of course, but I think that the mistake made is that he could have been a solid #3 star on a team with STAT and say a DW or CP3, as long as the system required him to be aggressive and not just hoisting 3's. Good things happen when Gallo has the ball.

I agree. Grass is not always greener on the other side. His transition game is also blossoming. He not only fills lanes now but he leads and distributes as well. Karl also has him posting up a bit and he looks good doing it. Against the Heat, the Heat actually were tripple teaming him and he found the open man.

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3/23/2011  10:09 AM
the day we traded Gallo is was set in stone he would be an all star and a guy who LEADS his teams in pressure spots. I suspect he will have a couple monster playoff games this year as well.
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3/23/2011  12:25 PM
Gallo is more likely destined for a Tony Kukoc-like career. Unfortunately the Knicks could use a Kukoccian player right now.
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3/23/2011  12:32 PM
grillco wrote:Gallo is more likely destined for a Tony Kukoc-like career. Unfortunately the Knicks could use a Kukoccian player right now.
he's already better. WAY better. Did Kucoc guard the best opposing player? Could Toni get to the line 15 times in a game if his jumper wasnt falling? I'm thinking more like Chris Mullen
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3/23/2011  12:36 PM
fishmike wrote:
grillco wrote:Gallo is more likely destined for a Tony Kukoc-like career. Unfortunately the Knicks could use a Kukoccian player right now.
he's already better. WAY better. Did Kucoc guard the best opposing player? Could Toni get to the line 15 times in a game if his jumper wasnt falling? I'm thinking more like Chris Mullen

Who knows for sure, he was almost always playing behind MJ and Pippen and in MJ's absense Pip wasn't exactly making his teammates better. But I can see Gallo having a Mullin career. Unfortunately I can also see that potential to be as good as Dirk. Of course realizing that potential would take MASSIVE work and development, but still...

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3/23/2011  12:59 PM
TMS wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Gallo will be what we want Melo to be now.

dunno what Gallo will be down the road but right now he's a 16 / 6 / 1 player shooting 42% from the field in 30 mpg, 25% from 3 pt range... i wish him much success in Denver too, always thought he was a great kid, but i'm curious what do u think we want Melo to be now that he's not that u think Gallo will become? do u think Gallo will ever be a 25 / 6 / 3 guy in the NBA?

No. He's just not athletic and talented enough to do what Melo can do.

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3/23/2011  1:09 PM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
TMS wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Gallo will be what we want Melo to be now.

dunno what Gallo will be down the road but right now he's a 16 / 6 / 1 player shooting 42% from the field in 30 mpg, 25% from 3 pt range... i wish him much success in Denver too, always thought he was a great kid, but i'm curious what do u think we want Melo to be now that he's not that u think Gallo will become? do u think Gallo will ever be a 25 / 6 / 3 guy in the NBA?

No. He's just not athletic and talented enough to do what Melo can do.

That's why he is Bird lite.

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3/23/2011  1:35 PM
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3/23/2011  3:21 PM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
TMS wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Gallo will be what we want Melo to be now.

dunno what Gallo will be down the road but right now he's a 16 / 6 / 1 player shooting 42% from the field in 30 mpg, 25% from 3 pt range... i wish him much success in Denver too, always thought he was a great kid, but i'm curious what do u think we want Melo to be now that he's not that u think Gallo will become? do u think Gallo will ever be a 25 / 6 / 3 guy in the NBA?

No. He's just not athletic and talented enough to do what Melo can do.

But he's still young. I know he's no Ewing, but Patrick came into the league as a defensive stopper who could score at will from inside the paint. Then over the first few seasons he grew his game and developed one of the sweetest 15-18 footers to ever float so effortlessly from the hands of a 7 footer. Players can grow, just as they can shrink...i.e. Jermaine O'Neal.

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3/23/2011  3:37 PM
TMS wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Gallo will be what we want Melo to be now.

dunno what Gallo will be down the road but right now he's a 16 / 6 / 1 player shooting 42% from the field in 30 mpg, 25% from 3 pt range... i wish him much success in Denver too, always thought he was a great kid, but i'm curious what do u think we want Melo to be now that he's not that u think Gallo will become? do u think Gallo will ever be a 25 / 6 / 3 guy in the NBA?

26/6/3 may be a bit much but I can definatley see 18/6/3 and possibly 20 points a game. The kid has talent but you never quite know if the potential we see will ever come about.

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3/23/2011  8:58 PM
grillco wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
TMS wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Gallo will be what we want Melo to be now.

dunno what Gallo will be down the road but right now he's a 16 / 6 / 1 player shooting 42% from the field in 30 mpg, 25% from 3 pt range... i wish him much success in Denver too, always thought he was a great kid, but i'm curious what do u think we want Melo to be now that he's not that u think Gallo will become? do u think Gallo will ever be a 25 / 6 / 3 guy in the NBA?

No. He's just not athletic and talented enough to do what Melo can do.

But he's still young. I know he's no Ewing, but Patrick came into the league as a defensive stopper who could score at will from inside the paint. Then over the first few seasons he grew his game and developed one of the sweetest 15-18 footers to ever float so effortlessly from the hands of a 7 footer. Players can grow, just as they can shrink...i.e. Jermaine O'Neal.

it's true Patrick did develop certain areas of his game over the years, but even still he was 20 / 9 / 2 / 2 his rookie season right out the gate... what is Gallo's realistic upside? i personally don't think he's going to be a superstar player in the NBA, his mentality is more of that of a role player... he's happy to be a background guy on most nights doesn't really demand the ball the way an Amare or Melo does... to put up those kinds of superstar #'s u also have to have that type of mentality to take over games on a regular basis... i have not seen this out of Gallo on any kind of consistent basis, the times he takes over games are few & far between... i agree with most that he's an excellent team player i love his attitude & unselfish style of play, but all of those things sorta work against him if we're talking about his potential to reach superstar status.

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3/23/2011  9:07 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
TMS wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Gallo will be what we want Melo to be now.

dunno what Gallo will be down the road but right now he's a 16 / 6 / 1 player shooting 42% from the field in 30 mpg, 25% from 3 pt range... i wish him much success in Denver too, always thought he was a great kid, but i'm curious what do u think we want Melo to be now that he's not that u think Gallo will become? do u think Gallo will ever be a 25 / 6 / 3 guy in the NBA?


I think he'll go the way the Nuggets/Karl want him to go. The guy wants to be on a winning team, and I'm coming to believe that he really does not care that much about the world of stats.

I still think there is something wrong with his arm/wrist and this has caused him to drive more and shoot from the outside less. Ironically, problems with his 3pt shot will end up making him a more complete player.

How many guys in the league, his size, can go to the basket like he can at this point, and he is still not physically mature, IMO.

Said it before, and now again... some of the guys on UK are going to be eating crow when it comes to Gallo.

3 years from now you will admit that you would rather have him on your team than Anthony.


Answering TMS,

Yes, I think he will become a 25/7/4 player if given the right offensive sets. Included in that is that he will be a TEAM player first always. From what I have seen of him in Denver, his game has already been changed. He is no longer standing there, but instead taking guys off the dribble and getting inside for rebounds.

Time will tell of course, but I think that the mistake made is that he could have been a solid #3 star on a team with STAT and say a DW or CP3, as long as the system required him to be aggressive and not just hoisting 3's. Good things happen when Gallo has the ball.

I agree. Grass is not always greener on the other side. His transition game is also blossoming. He not only fills lanes now but he leads and distributes as well. Karl also has him posting up a bit and he looks good doing it. Against the Heat, the Heat actually were tripple teaming him and he found the open man.

the Grass is always greener argument doesn't apply here, we all know real well the type of player Gallo is he's been here for the past 3 years.... he's not doing anything he wasn't already doing as a Knick before the trade, i seem to remember plenty of discussions where it was pointed out how much better he was getting at penetrating to the lane & getting to the FT line & not just settling for 3's... & whether we could have had Deron or CP3 in a trade is a moot point right now, i also seem to remember plenty of discussions about people not wanting to trade away assets to get CP3 either before Melo was ever even in the discussion because of his knee concerns... i remember this because i was trying to think of ways we could get him in a Knicks uniform for the past few years but now guys are lamenting that we missed out on him... i don't get it.

& Paladin, i'm not sure what u think i'll be eating crow on when it comes to Gallo in 3 years... can u be specific? considering i was 1 of his biggest supporters around here ever since he was drafted when some guys were calling him a stiff legged Euro bust & comparing him to Bostjan Nachbar before they ever saw him play a full game of basketball, i'm not even sure what you're getting at there... i highly doubt i would rather have him on my team in 3 years than Carmelo though, but if that does play out that way i'll be happy to eat crow.

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