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JrZyHuStLa
Posts: 25677 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 1/5/2007 Member: #1241 |
3/21/2011 11:15 PM
Remember Jackie Butler? How about Randolph Morris?
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TMS
Posts: 60684 Alba Posts: 617 Joined: 5/11/2004 Member: #674 USA |
3/21/2011 11:25 PM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:Remember Jackie Butler? How about Randolph Morris? trust me i doubt anyone thinks he's gonna solve all the problems... i just think he'd do a better job on the boards than Jeffries is doing now & give us some better size to match up with other teams' centers... plus he can actually knock down a jumpshot if he's left open. After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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Knicksfan
Posts: 33474 Alba Posts: 27 Joined: 7/5/2004 Member: #691 USA |
3/21/2011 11:25 PM
TMS wrote:CrushAlot wrote: It's not MDA's fault that every big man in the country sucks. Come on, only quality big men break into D'Antoni's rotation. If you do it, you are an amazing big man and fit for MDA. For example, here is Jared Jeffries. Knicks_Fan
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TMS
Posts: 60684 Alba Posts: 617 Joined: 5/11/2004 Member: #674 USA |
3/21/2011 11:29 PM
Knicksfan wrote:TMS wrote:CrushAlot wrote: the Key get this season. After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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Knicksfan
Posts: 33474 Alba Posts: 27 Joined: 7/5/2004 Member: #691 USA |
3/21/2011 11:30 PM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:Remember Jackie Butler? How about Randolph Morris? Imagine a starving vegetarian in the middle of a dessert and the first thing he sees is a McD. Knicks_Fan
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martin
Posts: 76229 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
3/22/2011 12:33 AM
Marv wrote:earl barron is Keyser Söze oh! that's how you spell that. Always wondered. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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TymeLessKnicks
Posts: 21061 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 12/6/2005 Member: #1050 Sweden |
3/22/2011 12:41 AM
Knicksfan wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Remember Jackie Butler? How about Randolph Morris? Now imagine a starving omnivore in the middle of the same dessert and the first thing he sees is an Ital restaurant. Had enough Melo?
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
3/22/2011 12:43 AM
How is it that everyone just believes Berman on this? Since when does he have the pulse of what MDA is thinking? Did he ask Walsh specifically if he wanted Barron, but MDA didn't? I'm not saying this isn't true, but why is it that some automatically believe a guy that no one every takes seriously. I mean BERMAN? Come on. I guess as long as it's something negative about MDA, then it doesn't matter who the source is.
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Nalod
Posts: 71159 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
3/22/2011 12:44 AM
Marv wrote:earl barron is Keyser Söze  |
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Finestrg
Posts: 27296 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/1/2006 Member: #1069 |
3/22/2011 5:58 AM LAST EDITED: 3/22/2011 6:09 AM
nixluva wrote:How is it that everyone just believes Berman on this? Since when does he have the pulse of what MDA is thinking? Did he ask Walsh specifically if he wanted Barron, but MDA didn't? I'm not saying this isn't true, but why is it that some automatically believe a guy that no one every takes seriously. I mean BERMAN? Come on. I guess as long as it's something negative about MDA, then it doesn't matter who the source is. Well I'm more inclined to listen to Berman over some guy on the street---the man get's paid to cover the team. I think he's got a better understanding of what goes on behind the scenes than your average guy. He's around them all everyday. That said, listen to this Berman video blog clip from when we had Barron the first time around a year ago...1:33--1:48 D'Antoni talks specifically about Barron and what he brings to the table..WTF, now all of a sudden he doesn't like the guy anymore? LOL..I never said this guy's Hakeem Olajuwon, but he's a clearcut upgrade over what we have at the position right now..Sounds like there was a time when MDA would've said the same thing. Now, all of a sudden, it appears he's drastically changed his tune for whatever reason. It's a shame, we could really use this man. I happen to agree with Berman throughout the clip btw--everything he said about Barron a year ago applies right now imho: |
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TheGame
Posts: 26634 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/15/2006 Member: #1154 USA |
3/22/2011 6:04 PM
I Just don't understand why we have not signed this guy. He is a better jumpshooter than Turiaf, Jeffries, and Williams. He is a solid rebounder and defender. He does not excel at blocking shots, but the guy can guard centers. We need this dude bad. I simply don't understand the delay.
Trust the Process
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Knicksfan
Posts: 33474 Alba Posts: 27 Joined: 7/5/2004 Member: #691 USA |
3/22/2011 6:44 PM
Right now it seems the problem is D'Antoni, if you believe the reports out there. It seems he wont guarantee he will play him over Turiaf and Jeffries, so Walsh hasn't moved to sign him.
This is inexplicable since Barron had some success in this system under D'Antoni and our need for a center is huge and will be exposed even more in the playoffs. It has already been mentioned he would be playoff eligible so why not try him out!? Knicks_Fan
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TheGame
Posts: 26634 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/15/2006 Member: #1154 USA |
3/24/2011 2:33 PM
Knicksfan wrote:Right now it seems the problem is D'Antoni, if you believe the reports out there. It seems he wont guarantee he will play him over Turiaf and Jeffries, so Walsh hasn't moved to sign him. If I am Walsh, I cut Sheldon Williams and sign Earl Barron. Barron has size, can hit a jumpshot, and will play decent defense. He is exactly what this team needs. It is time to let the Jeffries experiment end. Trust the Process
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earthmansurfer
Posts: 24005 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/26/2005 Member: #858 Germany |
3/24/2011 2:36 PM
TheGame wrote:Knicksfan wrote:Right now it seems the problem is D'Antoni, if you believe the reports out there. It seems he wont guarantee he will play him over Turiaf and Jeffries, so Walsh hasn't moved to sign him. The reason we didn't sign him is that D'Antoni (not Walsh) doesn't want him. Walsh probably asked coach and coach said no, or he would be here. Clearly he performed well here last year so something strange is up. Here's looking forward to the draft (and or trade) for our next center... The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift. Albert Einstein
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TheGame
Posts: 26634 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/15/2006 Member: #1154 USA |
3/24/2011 4:01 PM
earthmansurfer wrote:TheGame wrote:Knicksfan wrote:Right now it seems the problem is D'Antoni, if you believe the reports out there. It seems he wont guarantee he will play him over Turiaf and Jeffries, so Walsh hasn't moved to sign him. What I am saying is that as a GM, you have to get the players that your team needs. The team needs Barron. He is the only center I see out there that can do the two things MDA needs to play him, play some level of decent defense and rebounding and hit an open jumpshot. If I am Walsh, I tell MDA that this team needs a center bad and Turiaf and Jeffries are not the answer. I am going to get Barron and I am putting him on the bench. If MDA does not play him, then you consider whether MDA is the right coach. If MDA plays him, then I think he will mess well with our current players. This dude should have been resigned long ago. It is amazing this guy cannot get a gig considering all the stiffs sitting on teams benches. Trust the Process
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fishmike
Posts: 53829 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
3/24/2011 4:09 PM
I think there is a personality issue with Baron. He played pretty good last year next to Lee for a nice stretch. I'm shocked he hasnt stuck around. He's a legit 7 foot body and he rebounded very well. Nice little jumper, etc etc
Walsh was asked about this and his response was he didnt feel Barron would contribute enough that merited cutting someone. Would he even be playoff eligible? "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
3/24/2011 5:58 PM
fishmike wrote:I think there is a personality issue with Baron. He played pretty good last year next to Lee for a nice stretch. I'm shocked he hasnt stuck around. He's a legit 7 foot body and he rebounded very well. Nice little jumper, etc etcI don't know if he would be playoff eligible. That is a great question. I read the version you spoke of in regards to Barron but I also read that Walsh wanted him and D'Antoni did not. I think it is getting hard to give D'Antoni the benefit of the doubt when it is in regards to playing big men so I think it has more to do with D'Antoni. I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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Knicksfan
Posts: 33474 Alba Posts: 27 Joined: 7/5/2004 Member: #691 USA |
3/24/2011 6:39 PM
At TheKnicksBlog, when the subject was brought up, they posted an article that stated Barron, after the 2nd 10-day contract, is playoff elegible. It read that the only thing stopping the return is D'Antoni.
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TMS
Posts: 60684 Alba Posts: 617 Joined: 5/11/2004 Member: #674 USA |
3/24/2011 8:48 PM
Knicksfan wrote: p, they posted an article that stated Barron, after the 2nd 10-day contract, is playoff elegible. It read that the only thing stopping the return is D'Antoni. if he had just kissed MDA's ass a little more in practice last year he'd be here by now. After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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