knickstorrents wrote:Carmelo Anthony isn't terrible. He is mediocre and comes at great cost. Very hard to build a championship team if you start off behind.

MS wrote:You know Marbury had pretty good stats averaging 20pts and 8ass.

Here's an idea lets get much worse defensively at 3 positions to bring in a guy that doesn't improve our team. Instead of having a point guard and Wilson chandler making 18MM combined next year we have Billups at 14.5M and Melo at 18MM which gives us no room to upgrade the front court and perserve Amare and continue to improve.

The plan was and always has been to get 2 max players on the team. Now we have 2 max players and people just want to bitch and moan becuase we had to give up Gallo and Chandler. Much worse defensively at 3 positions? WTF? Gallo was a lock down defender. Ray Felton was a lock down defender? Mosgov, Mr. Send the Guy He's Guarding to the Line played great D?

Chandler played decent D but that's about it. Most people here are about building with youth but now we have to go out and trade or sign the guys we need? There is something called the NBA draft where a player can be obtained. There is no difference maker hitting the market this summer. That guy was going to be Carmelo but we got him already.

CashMoney wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Win and the criticism will go away. Otherwise STFU.

So it's Melo's fault for every lose here on out then? When TD has a bad game or STAT shoots 11 for 28 it's Melo's fault?

So yea... bottom line. Melo wanted to come here be the highest paid player in the league and it cost us half our roster, so yea... time to man up and show us you can carry a team for ANY stretch.

Sorry.. right now he's an overpaid diva. Start winning and show some leadership. Until then all the critics are right. His job to shut them up. So far epic fail

fishmike wrote:

CashMoney wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Win and the criticism will go away. Otherwise STFU.

So it's Melo's fault for every lose here on out then? When TD has a bad game or STAT shoots 11 for 28 it's Melo's fault?

in past when Gallo shot 2-12 Chandler would have a big game. So yes.. I read thread after thread that stars are more important than depth and stars win, bla bla bla

So yea... bottom line. Melo wanted to come here be the highest paid player in the league and it cost us half our roster, so yea... time to man up and show us you can carry a team for ANY stretch.

Sorry.. right now he's an overpaid diva. Start winning and show some leadership. Until then all the critics are right. His job to shut them up. So far epic fail

Bottom line is when Gallo had a bad game the Knicks lost and the awesome roster we have up was 2 games over .500. Can't wait for the critics to STFU but the gut is getting blasted after 15 games. Melo is a Dive for getting upset with JJ even though he addressed it after that very game and was upset that the Knicks weren't playing well. Melo can average 30+ PPG but there are always going to be haters here becuase the chosen duo of Gallo and Chandler are no longer here.

Marv wrote:

fishmike wrote:

CashMoney wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Win and the criticism will go away. Otherwise STFU.

So it's Melo's fault for every lose here on out then? When TD has a bad game or STAT shoots 11 for 28 it's Melo's fault?

in past when Gallo shot 2-12 Chandler would have a big game. So yes.. I read thread after thread that stars are more important than depth and stars win, bla bla bla

So yea... bottom line. Melo wanted to come here be the highest paid player in the league and it cost us half our roster, so yea... time to man up and show us you can carry a team for ANY stretch.

Sorry.. right now he's an overpaid diva. Start winning and show some leadership. Until then all the critics are right. His job to shut them up. So far epic fail

agreed.

when amear was in this position and his team was 3-8 he went on an epic 30-point consecutive game tear and led his team to a 13-1 run. with multiple double-figure rebound games and lots of blocks as well.

carmelo, you're up.

i agree with this and would like to see melo step BUT... at the same time, i've been under the expectation since this trade happened that next year is when this team is really going to start playing well together. yeah it'd be nice if they came together this year for the playoffs, but i just don't think you can expect to make a trade of that magnitude and have it work midseason, no matter how good the player(s) are that you are receiving. add to the fact that billups came in, started, and then missed a bunch of games and now he's back to starting, it's going to mess with guys. this team doesn't know how to play with a player like melo and apparently melo is having a hard time adjusting to his new situation, it's to be expected. but in reality, next year is when i really begin judging this trade.

TMS wrote:

knickstorrents wrote:

CashMoney wrote:The plan was and always has been to get 2 max players on the team.

Sorry, if you had a choice between paying Dwight Howard the max and Carmelo the max who would it be? We got impatient, Dolan got greedy, and we made a very poor decision on who should be the 2nd max player. Carmelo is not worth a max slot.

since when did we have a choice between Dwight Howard & Carmelo?

Exactly, last time I checked Howard was playing in Orlando and has no desire to come out east.

TheGame wrote:Guys the ramifications of this trade will not really be known until we know who Walsh can get over the next two years. If we can get role players comparable to our old role players, then this trade will be a big win for us. You win playoff games in the 4th quarter with prime time players (Guys that can score even when a team puts their best defensive player on you and game plans to stop you). Melo is a prime time player. This guy can score on the best defensive players in the league. Right now the team looks terrible because we have no size and we have no depth and I think Billups is still slightly hurt. If Walsh can get us a starting center, a solid backup power foward, sg, and pg, then I think you will start to see this team dominate its opponents.

I agree. Is the NY bench good enough to go up against the benches of contending teams? No.

Like you said, we also need a legit starting center.