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martin
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3/18/2011  4:43 PM
grillco wrote:Per the thread topic...

This a recipe for failure. It'll be fun to watch and their will be some amazing nights, but this does not and will not win rings.

The top teams in the league also shoot a greater percent of 3s per shot. So I think the above is not correct.

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3/18/2011  5:06 PM
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martin wrote:NY has one of the highest Points Per Possession number in the league, so that means they are one of the best offensive teams out there.

while I'm not disagreeing that the Knicks are one of the best offensive teams out there, I don't agree with this logic. PPP does not take into the likelihood that a possession ends up in points (volatility). This is of strategic importance.

example of same average, different volatility/standard deviation:

i have no idea if you are showing a chart on standard deviation, chances of someone getting laid by the factor of how much scotch they have imbibed or if that spike is just a big old phallic symbol to get the weekend rolling.

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3/19/2011  8:51 AM
The main issue with high volume 3s for this team is that when we miss we don't defend the break off the rebound and so it hurts us beyond ppp. Elite teams can chuck a bit but have a shot at stopping the other team if they miss. The worse our offense is doing the more we take too.
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3/19/2011  12:07 PM
martin wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
martin wrote:NY has one of the highest Points Per Possession number in the league, so that means they are one of the best offensive teams out there.

while I'm not disagreeing that the Knicks are one of the best offensive teams out there, I don't agree with this logic. PPP does not take into the likelihood that a possession ends up in points (volatility). This is of strategic importance.

example of same average, different volatility/standard deviation:

i have no idea if you are showing a chart on standard deviation, chances of someone getting laid by the factor of how much scotch they have imbibed or if that spike is just a big old phallic symbol to get the weekend rolling.

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3/19/2011  1:03 PM
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nixluva wrote:
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knicks1248 wrote:All of a sudden melo is shooting above 40% from 3pt...after shooting in the low 30's for his career...you know why. Most of the 3pt attemps are wide open because of the system..its just a system that developes into guys being left open..these 3pt attemps are not just guys jacking up 3's, players are usually set waiting for the kick out or defenders going under the pnr and giving the ball handler ample space to take a open 3..

It what it is, they take 100's of 3's during practice...

agreed. though, I think the a quality team like the Boston Celtics will invite the Knicks to take threes come the postseason. because at the end of the game they'll out execute the Knicks. this style doe snot lend itself well to the end of games

This hasn't born itself out in most of our games. Most of the time we've gone ISO and we have excellent ISO options.

As Martin points out, our offense isn't a problem. If we can defend that's what will be the difference in wins and losses. last nights game was really about the defense. It wasn't great D, but it was sufficient.

remember when Shawne Williams didn't take that shot? Or Amar'e's getting waived off? Or Melo hitting but leaving 4 seconds on the clock?


There have been more games where we went with STAT or Melo than games like the ones you just sited. We have closers in STAT, Melo and Chauncey and more often than not those guys will be involved in our crunchtime plays. This is the reason we got Melo, cuz teams were able to take away STAT, but now it's going to be much tougher to stop all 3 of them.

well I hope you're right. But I'm more cocnerned about the inevitable hiccup the team has in the minutes leading up to the final second shot. The fact that no lead feels safe. I agree with martin there, that is best solved by fixing the defense, but this offense is CERTAINLY drought prone. Give me a week and I can give you a large dataset of prolonged droughts this team has experienced. And I'm willing to bet the majority of those shots were taken from deep or Jeffries is attempting layups again

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