TymeLessKnicks wrote:chauncey coming off the bench is loser talk earl.

we didnt trade our starting pg for a backup.

did you not get the point that he may still be hurt?

martin wrote:

TymeLessKnicks wrote:chauncey coming off the bench is loser talk earl.

we didnt trade our starting pg for a backup.

did you not get the point that he may still be hurt?

oh, if he is playing hurt to the point where he is hurting the team then he shouldnt play until he is healthy enough to have a positive contribute.

martin wrote:

TymeLessKnicks wrote:

martin wrote:

TymeLessKnicks wrote:chauncey coming off the bench is loser talk earl.

we didnt trade our starting pg for a backup.

did you not get the point that he may still be hurt?

oh, if he is playing hurt to the point where he is hurting the team then he shouldnt play until he is healthy enough to have a positive contribute.

that may be true, but on the other hand there are only so many more games and chances Chauncey and company get to play together to try to iron things out before the playoffs, which is where everyone is pointing towards. So it's understandable that the Knicks (and perhaps Chancey himself who wants to prove his worth to nab that extra $14.3M salary next year) would want him to play even when he is significantly less than 100%.

I dont know man, a healthy chauncey has nothing to prove right?

logging playing time while playing "significantly less that 100%" just cant be a good thing.

maybe they will get used to playing with a hurt chauncey

crzymdups wrote:Chauncey showing why a healthy Chauncey is invaluable to this team.

But Chauncey is not healthy.

His knee is not healed and his mind is with his wife and kids in Denver.

A. I would buy him out and start over. Veteran presence is meaningless if that veterans heart is not into it. Chauncey's heart is in Denver, not New York. Chauncey misses his family and from his "good soldier" facial expression at the first press conference, to his underperformance tonight, is is apparent that NYC is NOT where he wants to be. It's understandable and perfectly human.

If Donnie Walsh has not cleaned out his office by June, he needs to have a heart to heart with Mr Billups and get a committment. If the committment is not 100 per cent there, the Knicks have no other choice than to go in another direction. He is 34 years old in a young mans game.

We hardly knew ye Chauncey.

Billups is a pro and I expect him to be fully engaged in the playoffs, but he was "home" in Denver, and I don't want him half-assing his way through here simply because we're vastly overpaying him.

The Updated NYK "Heart and Soul" Rankings

7. Anthony - Fancy supersized billboards and berating your team mates doing the best they can does not make your a "heart and soul" kinda guy, diving after loose balls does

6. Shawne Williams - out of nowhere, he almost feels like one of the family

5. Ronny Turiaf - does his best leading from the bench but hey, you need good bench guys

4. Anthony Carter - not the most talented but will leave every ounce of sweat on the floor

3. Landry Fields - half rookie, half hard-working veteran

2. Amare - stubborn sometimes to a fault but you cannot question his competitive drive

1. Toney Douglas - the longest tenured Knicks player (crazy huh?) sets the tone for toughness with his tenacious demeanor

misterearl wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Chauncey showing why a healthy Chauncey is invaluable to this team.

(cough)

I'm jus sayin

I don't think he's healthy. And, yes, he's proving me wrong and the Knicks are losing. You must be ecstatic.

misterearl wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

misterearl wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Chauncey showing why a healthy Chauncey is invaluable to this team.

(cough)

I'm jus sayin

I don't think he's healthy. And, yes, he's proving me wrong and the Knicks are losing. You must be ecstatic.

Heath is not simply physical. In Chauncey's case you can remove money, rings and every superficial factor from the equation. The most important thing to a veteran player at this stage of his career is heart. How does Billups FEEL about being ripped away from his family and children?

What too many trader joe's overlook is the human element. Billups head is not here and it is evident. To the extent his body is aching, only he knows. We know one thing for certain. His heart is not in it.

"I'm jus sayin'" is exactly what it means.

I'm jus' sayin'

then i'm "jus sayin'

retire if you don't want to earn your paycheck.

crzymdups wrote:

Marv wrote:

misterearl wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

misterearl wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Chauncey showing why a healthy Chauncey is invaluable to this team.

(cough)

I'm jus sayin

I don't think he's healthy. And, yes, he's proving me wrong and the Knicks are losing. You must be ecstatic.

Heath is not simply physical. In Chauncey's case you can remove money, rings and every superficial factor from the equation. The most important thing to a veteran player at this stage of his career is heart. How does Billups FEEL about being ripped away from his family and children?

What too many trader joe's overlook is the human element. Billups head is not here and it is evident. To the extent his body is aching, only he knows. We know one thing for certain. His heart is not in it.

"I'm jus sayin'" is exactly what it means.

I'm jus' sayin'

then i'm "jus sayin'

retire if you don't want to earn your paycheck.

"okay, you're paying me $14M, but i have to TRAVEL?!?!"

That is hilarious. Well played.

Mid Term Fix Number 2: Play Carmelo at guard.

Put the ball in his hands in the role of point forward Anthon Mason. Force Carmelo to lead and create opportunity for his new running buddies. He brings the ball upcourt at least 50 per cent of the time, with either Fields or Billups on the wing. What do we have to lose?

Play Shawne Williams at three, a position he can flourish in at 6'9. (It's amazing Dolan did not throw in Shawne Williams and Landry Fields)

Amare at the four. Turiaf at center, until he fouls out or gets injured, whichever comes first.

And I love Ronny Turiaf.