nykshaknbake wrote:I don't think they can win a series agaist Boston, Orlando or CHicago with just being hot from 3.

mreinman wrote:I really hope they don't get BS hot from 3 and win a series and MDAss keeps his job. I want him gone. Regime change. Don't care who. Bring in Chris Dudley for all I care.

Or John Gruden! He will have the team playing better D then MDAss

I actually think they have the talent (forget all the BS excuses) to beat any of the 3. They played great against the good teams (ex Dallas). They just suck against the bottom feeders. That is all on the coach. No excuses can explain that.

mreinman wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:I don't think they can win a series agaist Boston, Orlando or CHicago with just being hot from 3.

mreinman wrote:I really hope they don't get BS hot from 3 and win a series and MDAss keeps his job. I want him gone. Regime change. Don't care who. Bring in Chris Dudley for all I care.

Or John Gruden! He will have the team playing better D then MDAss

I actually think they have the talent (forget all the BS excuses) to beat any of the 3. They played great against the good teams (ex Dallas). They just suck against the bottom feeders. That is all on the coach. No excuses can explain that.

These arent championship caliber players. Kobe and Jordon didnt take nights off. Not sure why Melo and Amare think they can. They are good enough to make lots on money in the NBA. Havent proved they can do much besides that yet.

I hope MDA does get fired and coaches Kobe and the Lakers to a title the following year. Knick fans still wont get it

martin wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:Anybody know if we can still add a player in the roster and be able to play in the playoffs?

I am not 100%, but I think the technical answer is yes, but only if they were NOT on another NBA roster as of like the day after that Brown dude from Charlotte was taken from waivers by Donnie.

Then I am questioning why we have not taken a rebounding center in the D-League. We missed the boat on Barron but there are some 6'11"-7' centers still out there.

Courtney Sims, Sean Williams, Chris Johnson. I know we have 15 players already, but I think I would rather cut either Shelden or Mason to get a tall center in the roster. Just saying.

martin wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

martin wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:Anybody know if we can still add a player in the roster and be able to play in the playoffs?

I am not 100%, but I think the technical answer is yes, but only if they were NOT on another NBA roster as of like the day after that Brown dude from Charlotte was taken from waivers by Donnie.

Then I am questioning why we have not taken a rebounding center in the D-League. We missed the boat on Barron but there are some 6'11"-7' centers still out there.

Courtney Sims, Sean Williams, Chris Johnson. I know we have 15 players already, but I think I would rather cut either Shelden or Mason to get a tall center in the roster. Just saying.

it's a good point. The other side of that coin is that if any of those dudes were worth a look for any amount of time, why hadn't they already caught onto a team previously?

You look at the guys who a lot of playoff team were hot and heavy over: Troy Murphy, Leon Powe. Realistically they were nice news fodder but only that . Have either of those guys even performed (maybe Murphy had like 1 good game out of 10)? And they were knows guys who had done it on a semi-regular basis in the NBA already.

Either way, it's a good question. What's the benefit of adding a 7-footer for a month an a half when you barely have practices? Upside, downside, realistic expectation?

The only reason I want it to happen is for the playoffs and against the likes of Orlando and Boston. They have centers that will give us problems. Having a center that can see them eye-to-eye and give them 6 fouls would be beneficial to us. I am not worried about Miami or Chicago. We matchup good against them.

fishmike wrote:

martin wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

martin wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:Anybody know if we can still add a player in the roster and be able to play in the playoffs?

I am not 100%, but I think the technical answer is yes, but only if they were NOT on another NBA roster as of like the day after that Brown dude from Charlotte was taken from waivers by Donnie.

Then I am questioning why we have not taken a rebounding center in the D-League. We missed the boat on Barron but there are some 6'11"-7' centers still out there.

Courtney Sims, Sean Williams, Chris Johnson. I know we have 15 players already, but I think I would rather cut either Shelden or Mason to get a tall center in the roster. Just saying.

it's a good point. The other side of that coin is that if any of those dudes were worth a look for any amount of time, why hadn't they already caught onto a team previously?

You look at the guys who a lot of playoff team were hot and heavy over: Troy Murphy, Leon Powe. Realistically they were nice news fodder but only that . Have either of those guys even performed (maybe Murphy had like 1 good game out of 10)? And they were knows guys who had done it on a semi-regular basis in the NBA already.

Either way, it's a good question. What's the benefit of adding a 7-footer for a month an a half when you barely have practices? Upside, downside, realistic expectation?

few things drive me more nuts than when fans get upset we just havent gone out and gotten some good 7 footers from the d league or wherever else. Its like being made at your baseball team for not going and getting a closer who throws 99, strikes and doesnt give up the long ball.

Its hard enough getting Amare, Carmello and Billups, three bigtime NBA players to play well together, but fans think there are D league 7 footers waiting to be injected into the lineup that will help us and its only our inept management or non-center playing 3 point shooting loving coach who are keeping it from happening.

haha, there are players out there somewhere that would be able to play with this group.

I just find it strange that height (rebounding and defense) wasnt priority number one going into the trade deadline. I like the addition of JJ but that couldnt have been plan A right?

fishmike wrote:

TymeLessKnicks wrote:

fishmike wrote:

martin wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

martin wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:Anybody know if we can still add a player in the roster and be able to play in the playoffs?

I am not 100%, but I think the technical answer is yes, but only if they were NOT on another NBA roster as of like the day after that Brown dude from Charlotte was taken from waivers by Donnie.

Then I am questioning why we have not taken a rebounding center in the D-League. We missed the boat on Barron but there are some 6'11"-7' centers still out there.

Courtney Sims, Sean Williams, Chris Johnson. I know we have 15 players already, but I think I would rather cut either Shelden or Mason to get a tall center in the roster. Just saying.

it's a good point. The other side of that coin is that if any of those dudes were worth a look for any amount of time, why hadn't they already caught onto a team previously?

You look at the guys who a lot of playoff team were hot and heavy over: Troy Murphy, Leon Powe. Realistically they were nice news fodder but only that . Have either of those guys even performed (maybe Murphy had like 1 good game out of 10)? And they were knows guys who had done it on a semi-regular basis in the NBA already.

Either way, it's a good question. What's the benefit of adding a 7-footer for a month an a half when you barely have practices? Upside, downside, realistic expectation?

few things drive me more nuts than when fans get upset we just havent gone out and gotten some good 7 footers from the d league or wherever else. Its like being made at your baseball team for not going and getting a closer who throws 99, strikes and doesnt give up the long ball.

Its hard enough getting Amare, Carmello and Billups, three bigtime NBA players to play well together, but fans think there are D league 7 footers waiting to be injected into the lineup that will help us and its only our inept management or non-center playing 3 point shooting loving coach who are keeping it from happening.

haha, there are players out there somewhere that would be able to play with this group.

I just find it strange that height (rebounding and defense) wasnt priority number one going into the trade deadline. I like the addition of JJ but that couldnt have been plan A right?

the question is the same.. what was available? I would guess JJ would be a high priority because he's 6'11 and we know the coaching staff is comfortable with him. He only plays defense and can get time at the 3,4,5 spots, etc etc

As far as big bodies who out there was a better fit than JJ? I dont see much and I think that speaks volumes in regards to how little there is

that's Finestrg's cue to write 14 paragraphs of all of the DLeague 7-footers

I KID!

martin wrote:

fishmike wrote:

TymeLessKnicks wrote:

fishmike wrote:

martin wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

martin wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:Anybody know if we can still add a player in the roster and be able to play in the playoffs?

I am not 100%, but I think the technical answer is yes, but only if they were NOT on another NBA roster as of like the day after that Brown dude from Charlotte was taken from waivers by Donnie.

Then I am questioning why we have not taken a rebounding center in the D-League. We missed the boat on Barron but there are some 6'11"-7' centers still out there.

Courtney Sims, Sean Williams, Chris Johnson. I know we have 15 players already, but I think I would rather cut either Shelden or Mason to get a tall center in the roster. Just saying.

it's a good point. The other side of that coin is that if any of those dudes were worth a look for any amount of time, why hadn't they already caught onto a team previously?

You look at the guys who a lot of playoff team were hot and heavy over: Troy Murphy, Leon Powe. Realistically they were nice news fodder but only that . Have either of those guys even performed (maybe Murphy had like 1 good game out of 10)? And they were knows guys who had done it on a semi-regular basis in the NBA already.

Either way, it's a good question. What's the benefit of adding a 7-footer for a month an a half when you barely have practices? Upside, downside, realistic expectation?

few things drive me more nuts than when fans get upset we just havent gone out and gotten some good 7 footers from the d league or wherever else. Its like being made at your baseball team for not going and getting a closer who throws 99, strikes and doesnt give up the long ball.

Its hard enough getting Amare, Carmello and Billups, three bigtime NBA players to play well together, but fans think there are D league 7 footers waiting to be injected into the lineup that will help us and its only our inept management or non-center playing 3 point shooting loving coach who are keeping it from happening.

haha, there are players out there somewhere that would be able to play with this group.

I just find it strange that height (rebounding and defense) wasnt priority number one going into the trade deadline. I like the addition of JJ but that couldnt have been plan A right?

the question is the same.. what was available? I would guess JJ would be a high priority because he's 6'11 and we know the coaching staff is comfortable with him. He only plays defense and can get time at the 3,4,5 spots, etc etc

As far as big bodies who out there was a better fit than JJ? I dont see much and I think that speaks volumes in regards to how little there is

that's Finestrg's cue to write 14 paragraphs of all of the DLeague 7-footers

I KID!

LOL!

Yes I agree JJ is a good fit. I welcome him back with open arms but I think its obvious there wasn't a high enough priority placed on getting bigger in the paint. we got smaller!

JJ's defense is good but we know its no where near good enough to stop teams from having a party in the paint every game.

D-Leaguers are an option but im thinking globally. Someone is out there and some scout is getting paid.

Maybe im being overly passionate but I think if we fix our lack of defensive presence in the paint we would see more wins.

mreinman wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:

Knicks not going anywhere as long as this man lurks in the shadows.

Do you really believe that Isiah can't do as good or better of a job? MDAss is no better.

Did you really just pose this question? Zeke has nothing but a decent season or two with the Pacers to indicate any real coaching talent. And nothing but a handful of decent (possibly lucky) draft picks as a GM/president. He's poison to this organization. Mike at least has a proven regular season winning formula if his players can keep the pace and hit the shots.

That said Mike does suck at motivating. Someone else mentioned in another post about how good Doc is in Boston and it's that Riley/JVG influence and Riley's really the source. You sell the team on your concept of winning. Develop relationships with the players and invest yourself fully as a coach in the team and with its players and it makes them do the same. I don't think any of the guys that Riley, JVG, Doc, Pop, etc. coached ever questioned the conviction of their coach, but the supposedly player friendly coach that is D'Antoni has alienated his fair share of players in NY. Granted he knew the players were on borrowed time and not part of the teams long-term goals, but still...

But Thomas is useless to NY, if not the NBA and I'll take every day of the week, twice on Sundays over that crap weasel.