fishmike wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

fishmike wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:great question. seems like hte coach wants one thing, the players another

who wants what? I just see them trying to figure out how to play good bb, which they struggle with night in and out. Whats the identity you think the players want here?

when the team has played its best, it doens't seem like a SSOL offesne/system. Seems like a more traditional inside/out half court offense. Maybe that's Chauncey and Melo not knowing the system and playing more of what they know. But I don't really see the point in flying up and down the court when we have three of the best offensive weapons in the game. I kind of think limiting the other team's possessions is a better way for us to win, especially if we actually play defense

having the best offensive weapons is the whole point of SSOL. If you your shots are better then the other team's (or your scorers are) then the more volue the more likely you will score more.

Thats not really me defending SSOL, just pointing out that in theory we should be a better SSOL team because we have elite scorers...

Franco I disagree on the center notion. Mosgov was an athletic banger type. JJ has ZERO offensive skills yet MDA loves him. MDA will play a better small player over a less skilled big one, I agree there, but I think he's killed the notion he doesnt care about size

My point was it seems that the players disagree. The pace has been slower. I don't have the numbers to back it up. Just how the game feels now.

And a subtle disagreement on the point of SSOL. The point of SSOL is to get a shot off before the defense sets. Amar'e and Melo are bes tin the midrange and that takes some time to set up. The team's most efficient opportunities will be with a more methodical approach, in my opinion, anyway

Denver is so deep in the frontcourt he only sees garbodge time.

The big Kremlin is better suited to the halfcourt sets created by the senior Billups and the solo artist Anthony.

Timofey would start for us.

Q. Panos: But would he make the Lakers or Celtics roster?

A. Absolutely. Mozgov would not only make the Celtics rotation, he would be a fan favorite.

What makes Mozgov great is that by the time he reaches the ripe old age of 26, the Garden renovation will be completed.

Q. CashMoney: Why is everyone so high on Mozgov?

A. Because:

Not all players come ready made like a microwaveable snack

"P-O-T-E-N-T-I-A-L" _ Jimmy Castor

Donnie snuck him in for a June workout while no one was looking. Donnie also snuck us on Landry Fields.

If he could have one good game, he could have another.

Chanting "Moz-GOV" is as much fun as chanting "Win-GO!"

Try moving to Novosibirsk, Russia, learning a new language and performing your job without any adjustment period. I dare you.

You can't teach height.

CashMoney - of course Mozgov is a project. But if you want to project what a project can and cannot do it would be the same as putting a ceiling on someone from the projects. I look forward to your list of seven footers from Russia, with excellent footwork, signed by Donnie Walsh, who never amounted to anything.

Think of it this way, Mozgov had NEVER met many, let alone played with, African American ballers before this fall. It had to be an adjustment to gain his confidence among legends he only read about or saw on television.

Donnie Walsh did his homework on Landry Fields. It was not luck. Where Rautins was drafted has absolutely no relevance to how Timofey Mozgov develops as a basketball player. It is Donnie's job.

Bring back Mozgov.

misterearl wrote:Everyone is different.

CashMoney - of course Mozgov is a project. But if you want to project what a project can and cannot do it would be the same as putting a ceiling on someone from the projects. I look forward to your list of seven footers from Russia, with excellent footwork, signed by Donnie Walsh, who never amounted to anything.

Think of it this way, Mozgov had NEVER met many, let alone played with, African American ballers before this fall. It had to be an adjustment to gain his confidence among legends he only read about or saw on television.

Donnie Walsh did his homework on Landry Fields. It was not luck. Where Rautins was drafted has absolutely no relevance to how Timofey Mozgov develops as a basketball player. It is Donnie's job.

Bring back Mozgov.

All I'm saying is that Mozgov is far from a lock to be a stud. People on this board act like the guy was the second coming of Ewing. You can either catch a ball or you can't and he can't catch a ball. He has a nice touch around the rim but he's never going to be a banger. Soft 7 footers with bad hands are a dime a dozen, who cares if the dime a dozen is Russian or not.

Where did I write that Rautins being drafted has releveance with regard to Mosgov? I was referring to Landry on that one. Regardless, if Mozgov is that good there is no way he parts ways with the Nuggets. The guy is locked up for two more years after this and you don't let a Russain 7'2 stud drafted by DW simply walk away. Heck, they may be able to include Moz in a deal for Dwight Howard.

CashMoney wrote:All I'm saying is that Mozgov is far from a lock to be a stud. People on this board act like the guy was the second coming of Ewing. You can either catch a ball or you can't and he can't catch a ball. He has a nice touch around the rim but he's never going to be a banger. Soft 7 footers with bad hands are a dime a dozen, who cares if the dime a dozen is Russian or not.

completely agree... i would be shocked to see Mozgov develop into much more than a poorman's Chris Kaman in his early years, a high energy C that will eventually get more comfortable using his midrange J & get better at his boxing out in the paint to grab boards, but i don't think he's ever gonna be a star C in the NBA... if he ever averages a double double over a full season i'd be extremely impressed.

TMS wrote:

CashMoney wrote:All I'm saying is that Mozgov is far from a lock to be a stud. People on this board act like the guy was the second coming of Ewing. You can either catch a ball or you can't and he can't catch a ball. He has a nice touch around the rim but he's never going to be a banger. Soft 7 footers with bad hands are a dime a dozen, who cares if the dime a dozen is Russian or not.

completely agree... i would be shocked to see Mozgov develop into much more than a poorman's Chris Kaman in his early years, a high energy C that will eventually get more comfortable using his midrange J & get better at his boxing out in the paint to grab boards, but i don't think he's ever gonna be a star C in the NBA... if he ever averages a double double over a full season i'd be extremely impressed.

Would you rather have him bodying up Dwight Howard, or would you rather have JJ doing it?

Panos wrote:

TMS wrote:

CashMoney wrote:All I'm saying is that Mozgov is far from a lock to be a stud. People on this board act like the guy was the second coming of Ewing. You can either catch a ball or you can't and he can't catch a ball. He has a nice touch around the rim but he's never going to be a banger. Soft 7 footers with bad hands are a dime a dozen, who cares if the dime a dozen is Russian or not.

completely agree... i would be shocked to see Mozgov develop into much more than a poorman's Chris Kaman in his early years, a high energy C that will eventually get more comfortable using his midrange J & get better at his boxing out in the paint to grab boards, but i don't think he's ever gonna be a star C in the NBA... if he ever averages a double double over a full season i'd be extremely impressed.

Would you rather have him bodying up Dwight Howard, or would you rather have JJ doing it?

I'd have to say JJ because he has yet to get posterized by Blake Griffin.