Juice wrote:If you're asking midrang shooter not specific to position...

Monta Ellis is a killer from 15-18ft

others in this area after previously mentioned Dirk

Paul Pierce

Jason Terry

Nash

Roy

Zach

Garnett

Gasol

Amar'e is very near the Top though

Whhhhaaat? no ray allen? Tony Parker deserves honorable mention as well. But Stat is as good as there is. I kinda don't even want him to drive anymore.

Knixkik wrote:His strong mid-range game is so important because it will keep him a very good offensive player far past his prime, similar to Garnett.

Agreed..Good comparison..Garnett was always a superior rebounder though, probably still is now..STAT's been GREAT, I don't wanna take anything away from him, but his rebounding continues to be a concern..For all his strength and physicality, you'd think he's be able to come up with more than 4 rebs every night by accident..I just wish someone would challenge this guy to grab double figure rebounds every night..I'd challenge him if I were D'Antoni--he's gotta realize that if we own the glass, with our new offense, we're gonna win a lot of games..It's when we let up on the glass that we give these teams a chance..If I were STAT, no one would have to tell me that..He should realize that...Now that we have Melo, maybe somewhere along the way Amar'e can be convinced that it's not all about scoring the ball; it's about sharing the wealth offensively, rebounding and continuing to play great weakside D with his shot-blocking..Garnett's got all 3 of those down pat--STAT's not there yet. Has a lot to do with sacrifice..Not trying to knock the guy--he's been fantastic, probably the MVP of the league--I just wish he gave the same effort on the glass as he does trying to score the rock..

And yes, that jumper of his is PURE!! When he squares up on his guy and has the room to shoot, he's gotta take those rather than putting it on the floor..Those will always be good high % shots..He seems to be doing a much better job of varying/balancing the type of shots he takes now..

JrZyHuStLa wrote:STAT's work ethic has propelled him to star status.

yup. opposing teams were mauling him in the paint—so his way adjusting? work on the mid-range jumper.

franco12 wrote:Al Horford:

http://www.hoopdata.com/shotstats.aspx?team=%25&type=pg&posi=%25&yr=2011&gp=30&mins=25

Looks like a great site - you can play around with the filters and sorting-

I've filtered for 16-23 feet- 30+ games 25+ mins and then sorted by makes vs. % as there are some low #'s with a high percentage in here.

Juice- you may want to rethink Monta Ellis

wow, nice link. thanks.

scoshin wrote:

franco12 wrote:Al Horford:

http://www.hoopdata.com/shotstats.aspx?team=%25&type=pg&posi=%25&yr=2011&gp=30&mins=25

Looks like a great site - you can play around with the filters and sorting-

I've filtered for 16-23 feet- 30+ games 25+ mins and then sorted by makes vs. % as there are some low #'s with a high percentage in here.

Juice- you may want to rethink Monta Ellis

Love hoopdata.

According to that, Amar'e shoots at a 44% clip from 16-23 feet out, which is where he takes the majority of his midrange jumpers. Surprisingly, it also says 62% of his shots there are assisted, which doesn't seem right, as I feel he scores mostly from iso there. Then again, maybe that is a low %, cause Dirk is assisted 81% of the time on his midrange jumpers.

If you parse the list by FG% and only account for those who actually take a volume amount of midrange jumpers (ie. at least 4 attempts per game imo), the ranking goes like this:

Horford - 4.7 attempts, 56% FG, 91.7% assisted
Nowitzki - 6.2 attempts, 54% FG, 81.1% ast
Stephen Curry - 4.4 attempts, 50% FG, 28.6% ast
Luis Scola - 4.9 attempts, 48% FG, 92.1% ast
David West - 5.0 attempts, 47% FG, 86.1% ast
Kevin Garnett - 5.0 attempts, 47% FG, 90.2% ast
Jason Terry, 4.5 attempts, 46% FG, 57.6% ast
Nick Young, 5.6 attempts, 46% FG, 52.9% ast
Amar'e Stoudemire, 5.5 attempts, 44% FG, 62.7% ast

Other notables who are more volume shooters, but probably shouldn't be taking as many--
Monta Ellis - 6.8 attempts, 38% FG, 35.2% ast
Carmelo Anthony - 6.5 attempts, 43% FG, 39.1% ast
Kevin Durant - 6.9 attempts, 39% FG, 69.9% ast
Kobe Bryant - 5.6 attempts, 39% FG, 30.5% ast
Christina Bosh Spice - 6.1 attempts, 44% FG, 80.1% ast

Gotta say, what surprised me the most was Stephen Curry. Shooting 50% from midrange, and most of them unassisted? No one even comes close to his efficiency there.

Nowitzki has the 2nd best FG%, while also taking the most amount of attempts.

Amar'e is lower than I expected, but he's also the only big man who seems to be keeping his %'s while also shooting that midrange jumper in iso situations. His % would likely be higher if he's more selective and only shoots it when uncontested like KG normally does.

Nice job cleaning that up.

I suspect Amar'e has improved as the season has gone on, though I could be wrong.

Stephen Curry!!!!!!! was right and if only we had lost a few more games, we could have included him in the Melo trade

Most surprising to me- Durant being as low as he is, given how great a pure shooter he seems to be.