brewer isn't that good anyway.

Uptown wrote:

TMS wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

TMS wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

TMS wrote:Corey Brewer playing well for the Mavs tonight, getting steals & nasty dunks in the lane... still not sure how this guy never got a shot w/this team, he's clearly a good defensive player.

I am pretty sure I read somewhere that he specifically asked to be bought out.

I think he wanted guaranteed minutes.

i don't see him asking for a trade if he knew he would get a shot to play... i have a hard time believing Derrick Brown will end up being a better option off the bench than Brewer just mho... whatever we can't change things now but i was actually excited about getting him as part of that Melo deal when Donnie made that trade... shame he never got a chance here.

He is a good player, 7th pick in the draft? His only weakness is his outside shot. He would have been a nice player in NY if he was given a chance.

having Brewer to stick on Jason Terry & take him out of the game offensively would have been huge in this game... he's been torching us w/jumpshots the entire 1st half.

You have to wonder if coach and GM are on the same page. How many players has Donnie brought in that the coach doesnt seem interested in?

EXACTLY..... refuse to play some solid players so far...look at mason jr, why was he buried on the bench? Carter would've been buried too, if it wasn't for injuries....

nixluva wrote:At some point you have to take financial and team make up into consideration. We can't keep everyone. Brewer just didn't fit on a couple of levels. I can't lose sleep over another wing player. Guys like him look great on great teams and a limited role. It may have been nice to keep him, but Brown is cheaper and may have more potential. Get used to this kind of decision making. We're gonna be looking for a few really cheap options to fill out some roster spots.

i dunno what the financial situation had to do with it i believe we had the option to renounce his rights he was a RFA this summer unless i'm mistaken... i don't see how buying out a player & signing another to fill that roster spot saves us money, maybe u can explain that to me if i missed something.

about Brewer not fitting i dunno why you would say that he seems to fit in pretty nice on a Dallas Mavs team that's built to contend right now & plays a similar style of offense as we do w/their high volume of 3's & uptempo style... i have no idea what kind of potential Derrick Brown has but he hasn't shown much in his 1st 2 seasons in the NBA i think it's a stretch to believe he's got better upside than a 25 yo #7 overall lottery pick that has been a starter for most of his NBA career

martin wrote:http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/the-knicks-fix-1.812055/no-tweet-16-party-expected-for-amar-e-1.2751467

Corey Brewer certainly played with notable motivation in his game -- seven points, four rebounds, four assists, two steals in 16:50 -- for what seems to be two reasons. First, he hasn't seen much run yet with the Mavericks and wants to prove himself, but also to stick it to the Knicks, who allegedly wouldn't commit to making him a rotation player. But D'Antoni seemed determined to set the record straight on why the Knicks didn't keep Brewer, who was claimed by Dallas off waivers and immediately signed a three-year, $7 million extension. And his explanation is interesting:

"As long as everybody knows the story and the story is, Corey's good and I hope he finds a home," D'Antoni said. "We let him go here because he got a two or three-year contract and some money and [his agent, Happy Walters] asked us for him to go. I thought we did the right thing as an organization, that we couldn't promise him what he can have [in Dallas]. I think you have to take your hat off to the organiaztion and to Donnie for doing the classy thing and let him do it. It's not a question of can he or can he not play. He can play."

So the way D'Antoni explains it, Walters knew the Mavericks were interested enough to lock up Brewer, a pending free agent, with an extension. So this wasn't as much about playing time as it was finances.

*GASP* does this mean coach and GM are on the same page????

nyk4ever wrote:

martin wrote:http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/the-knicks-fix-1.812055/no-tweet-16-party-expected-for-amar-e-1.2751467

Corey Brewer certainly played with notable motivation in his game -- seven points, four rebounds, four assists, two steals in 16:50 -- for what seems to be two reasons. First, he hasn't seen much run yet with the Mavericks and wants to prove himself, but also to stick it to the Knicks, who allegedly wouldn't commit to making him a rotation player. But D'Antoni seemed determined to set the record straight on why the Knicks didn't keep Brewer, who was claimed by Dallas off waivers and immediately signed a three-year, $7 million extension. And his explanation is interesting:

"As long as everybody knows the story and the story is, Corey's good and I hope he finds a home," D'Antoni said. "We let him go here because he got a two or three-year contract and some money and [his agent, Happy Walters] asked us for him to go. I thought we did the right thing as an organization, that we couldn't promise him what he can have [in Dallas]. I think you have to take your hat off to the organiaztion and to Donnie for doing the classy thing and let him do it. It's not a question of can he or can he not play. He can play."

So the way D'Antoni explains it, Walters knew the Mavericks were interested enough to lock up Brewer, a pending free agent, with an extension. So this wasn't as much about playing time as it was finances.

*GASP* does this mean coach and GM are on the same page????

sounds like spin from MDA to explain why he never gave Brewer a shot... according to Brewer himself he was excited to be a Knick when the trade went down but asked to be traded after he figured out he wouldn't get a chance to play here... sounds very familiar to other scenarios where players DW has acquired have not been given a shot by this head coach for 1 reason or another

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/knicks_routed_amar_faces_suspension_CX5CXEWxUfL0PDKsvpHyxK#ixzz1GJDOrnZ2

Before the game, Brewer told The Post he would have loved to stay in New York if coach D'Antoni wanted him.

"You could tell [I wasn't going to play]," Brewer said. "I had been there a week. I didn't play one game, then was inactive for two games, so I kind of felt it was best to go somewhere else and have a chance to play.

"I would've loved to have a chance," he said. "I felt great coming to New York."

Brewer looked like a man on a mission, starting 3 of 3 with two monster slams. Brewer got his first bucket, stealing the ball from Anthony Carter in the backcourt and going in for a stuff. Moments later, Brewer drove the lane and soared for a one-handed slam.

In the third quarter, with the Knicks making a mini-rally, Brewer swiped the ball from Anthony after Anthony grabbed a defensive rebound.

in a case like this i'm gonna base my opinion more off the comments of the player himself that asked to be traded over the coach who never played him because he was keeping the roster spot warm for a player he really liked in Jeffries.

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:Look I don't believe the Knicks had this guy in their longterm plans. I think they want to save money for a more important need than another wing. Sure he can play a little, but that's not the point. We don't really NEED Brewer. We need help at other spots, so why commit to the guy? We brought in Brown, so what's the big deal? Brown seems like a decent prospect and will sit quietly on the bench and not demand anything.

I think there are a couple of alarming things going on that have happened before. First, a young player that the gm requested be a part of the trade was not in the coaches plans according to Brewer. Second, it appears that he was let go because the coach wanted a low upside vet in Jeffries that he had a comfort level with. This has happened before and the fact that it keeps happening is very frustrating. Brown was a second round pick. He appears to be athletic and may pan out. However, Brewer was the seventh pick in the draft, plays great defense and was desired by several title contenders. Why a guy like that can't have a role on the Knicks with this coach is what is troubling. This has happened before.

So basically, Brewer could find his way into the rotation of one of the top 5 teams in the league, yet, he couldn't find a spot on a team that was, at the time, 2 games over .500 and in desperate need if defenders. SMH.

nixluva wrote:Look I don't believe the Knicks had this guy in their longterm plans. I think they want to save money for a more important need than another wing. Sure he can play a little, but that's not the point. We don't really NEED Brewer. We need help at other spots, so why commit to the guy? We brought in Brown, so what's the big deal? Brown seems like a decent prospect and will sit quietly on the bench and not demand anything.

again, how does buying him & Azabuike out of their contracts & signing Derrick Brown & Jared Jeffries save the Knicks any money? unless i'm missing something here we didn't have to re-sign either of them this summer, we could have just renounced Brewer's rights the same way we would have had to do with Wilson if we didn't make the Melo trade at the deadline & just let Azabuike walk if money was the determining factor... it obviously wasn't... or are u in some way suggesting that Brewer's agent was demanding a contract extension from the Knicks otherwise he wanted his client to be bought out?

nixluva wrote:

TMS wrote:

nixluva wrote:Look I don't believe the Knicks had this guy in their longterm plans. I think they want to save money for a more important need than another wing. Sure he can play a little, but that's not the point. We don't really NEED Brewer. We need help at other spots, so why commit to the guy? We brought in Brown, so what's the big deal? Brown seems like a decent prospect and will sit quietly on the bench and not demand anything.

again, how does buying him & Azabuike out of their contracts & signing Derrick Brown & Jared Jeffries save the Knicks any money? unless i'm missing something here we didn't have to re-sign either of them this summer, we could have just renounced Brewer's rights the same way we would have had to do with Wilson if we didn't make the Melo trade at the deadline & just let Azabuike walk if money was the determining factor... it obviously wasn't... or are u in some way suggesting that Brewer's agent was demanding a contract extension from the Knicks otherwise he wanted his client to be bought out?

I don't know about demanding anything, but he could easily have asked that they let him go since he probably had interest from teams. The Knicks likely already knew they weren't going to keep him and weren't sure how much he'd actually play. It was widely reported that the Knicks were offering him in trades. He's played 4 games with Dallas and has gotten 5, 10, 6 and 17 minutes, but he got his extension and I'm not sure the Knicks felt they wanted to commit to him, so why hold him up? Donnie does stuff like this, which is why he has such a great relationship with so many Agents.

what he said was that he was excited to be a Knick but only asked to be traded after he knew he wasn't gonna get a shot here... i don't know what he could have easily asked all i know is what he said & nothing that he said suggests that he knew coming in that he would never get a shot on this team, he came in enthusiastically you could clearly see it his 1st game as a Knick when Melo got introduced the guy couldn't stop smiling he was obviously happy to be a Knick... either that or he went out back with Renaldo Balkman to burn one before the game.