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CrushAlot
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2/27/2011  11:12 PM
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knicks1248 wrote:I thought he was trying to get a feel for his new players, he played 11 guys...cmon
He does that at the beginning of the season and last year at the trade deadline he played around with his line up quite a bit. Its a new team. I just hope it the team wins while he is figuring things out. In the past they haven't.

you have the luxury of having a billups as your pg, and 2 of the top players in the league..

/An NBA Finals MVP at the point who is one of the best leaders in the league is an incredible advantage.
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2/27/2011  11:23 PM
good coaches have good players. Go figure.
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2/27/2011  11:31 PM
Nalod wrote:good coaches have good players. Go figure.

I love this Vaccaro article from the Post. JVG didn't have a lot of great players but the guys he had would leave it all out on the floor for him. I don't think we have that kind of leadership now at the coaching spot. I don't think we have a guy that gets that from his team or puts in the effort. There is a reason why Scott Skiles could get the Bucks so far last year with a roster similar in talent to the Knicks at the time.

In memory, we remember those Knicks as a great defensive team.

And in reality, they may have been even better than that.

In reality — in the archived evidence of videotape — they picked opponents up at the hash mark and they never, ever let them breathe. This hardly was a great version of those Knicks — Patrick Ewing was in street clothes and Terry Cummings, Chris Dudley and Chris Mills were getting big minutes — but it didn’t matter. They didn’t just guard you, they blanketed you. They harassed you. You might score, but you were going to bleed for those two, or three, points.

Yes. It was an inspiring thing to see.

And then, on live-action television, on the MSG Network, the 2011 Knicks went out and played defense the way they’ve come to play defense over the past decade — so badly, so poorly, so indifferently, that it makes you wonder if five orange cones wouldn’t be just as effective as five live Knicks.

Chauncey Billups, who in less than a week already has revealed himself to be the most honest and self-aware Knick in years, described Friday’s miserable 115-109 loss perfectly.

“Offensively, we’ll probably be fine,” he said. “Mike [D’Antoni’s] system is awesome offensively. Defensively, the pick-and-roll hurt us tonight, and rebounding destroyed us tonight. It’s more chemistry than anything because everyone is playing hard [on defense].”

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/antoni_defense_gives_opponents_too_7tnMwIkDp0dpyhHACI6gWK#ixzz0agvcdm3z

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2/27/2011  11:40 PM
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OasisBU wrote:These threads are pointless. You want a gold medal winning coach with a solid record in the NBA gone? The Knicks have been bad since 99 - who coached them back to relevancy? MDA last time I checked.
I wonder if people talk about Nate Mc Millan's assistant olympic coaching experience as much as people do D'Antoni's.

Mike was a very important offensive coach and respected by all the players and Coach Krzyzewski. They ran a lot of his offense, so that one reason people give him credit. I keep telling you guys this is a coach that OTHER coaches respect and learn from. Only guys like Phil Jax talk crap about him.

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2/27/2011  11:43 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/27/2011  11:44 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
Nalod wrote:good coaches have good players. Go figure.

I love this Vaccaro article from the Post. JVG didn't have a lot of great players but the guys he had would leave it all out on the floor for him. I don't think we have that kind of leadership now at the coaching spot. I don't think we have a guy that gets that from his team or puts in the effort. There is a reason why Scott Skiles could get the Bucks so far last year with a roster similar in talent to the Knicks at the time.

In memory, we remember those Knicks as a great defensive team.

And in reality, they may have been even better than that.

In reality — in the archived evidence of videotape — they picked opponents up at the hash mark and they never, ever let them breathe. This hardly was a great version of those Knicks — Patrick Ewing was in street clothes and Terry Cummings, Chris Dudley and Chris Mills were getting big minutes — but it didn’t matter. They didn’t just guard you, they blanketed you. They harassed you. You might score, but you were going to bleed for those two, or three, points.

Yes. It was an inspiring thing to see.

And then, on live-action television, on the MSG Network, the 2011 Knicks went out and played defense the way they’ve come to play defense over the past decade — so badly, so poorly, so indifferently, that it makes you wonder if five orange cones wouldn’t be just as effective as five live Knicks.

Chauncey Billups, who in less than a week already has revealed himself to be the most honest and self-aware Knick in years, described Friday’s miserable 115-109 loss perfectly.

“Offensively, we’ll probably be fine,” he said. “Mike [D’Antoni’s] system is awesome offensively. Defensively, the pick-and-roll hurt us tonight, and rebounding destroyed us tonight. It’s more chemistry than anything because everyone is playing hard [on defense].”

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/antoni_defense_gives_opponents_too_7tnMwIkDp0dpyhHACI6gWK#ixzz0agvcdm3z

Mike has had teams that gave major effort. How do you explain winning 54 games and making the WCF's without J. Johnson or Amar'e and with Diaw as your center? You think that team didn't bust it for him to get that far? Come on man!

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2/27/2011  11:57 PM
A bunch of these posters became "UK famous" during the laymen and isiah years when the Knicks sucked and they could hate as much as they want.

A thread like this posted before they pulled out a win on defense is the beginning if the end of that regime.

Just let the random dumb threads slowly die out.

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2/28/2011  12:04 AM
I think Billups compliments Amare & Melo better than Bosh compliments Lebron & Wade. Therefore I like our big 3 and we may have role players who can score & defend better
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2/28/2011  12:05 AM
gunsnewing wrote:I think Billups compliments Amare & Melo better than Bosh compliments Lebron & Wade. Therefore I like our big 3 and we may have role players who can score & defend better

I was thinking the same...we have our big three and possibly the 3rd best 3 in the league.

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2/28/2011  12:06 AM
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gunsnewing wrote:I think Billups compliments Amare & Melo better than Bosh compliments Lebron & Wade. Therefore I like our big 3 and we may have role players who can score & defend better

I was thinking the same...we have our big three and possibly the 3rd best 3 in the league.

mostly I think Bosh is a *****

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2/28/2011  12:09 AM
oh also Stat & Melo might compliment each other better than Lebron/Wade too.
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2/28/2011  12:09 AM
martin wrote:
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gunsnewing wrote:I think Billups compliments Amare & Melo better than Bosh compliments Lebron & Wade. Therefore I like our big 3 and we may have role players who can score & defend better

I was thinking the same...we have our big three and possibly the 3rd best 3 in the league.

mostly I think Bosh is a *****

Bosh is gluelike...he is doing all the dirty work. Amare is an animal though. Billups is better than advertised.

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2/28/2011  12:22 AM
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martin wrote:
babyKnicks wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:I think Billups compliments Amare & Melo better than Bosh compliments Lebron & Wade. Therefore I like our big 3 and we may have role players who can score & defend better

I was thinking the same...we have our big three and possibly the 3rd best 3 in the league.

mostly I think Bosh is a *****

Bosh is gluelike...he is doing all the dirty work. Amare is an animal though. Billups is better than advertised.

i don't agree and don't see that happening at all. He barely gets rebounds and is very soft. Don't watch a ton of Miami games but I don't seem him as anything but an average defender/intimidater.

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2/28/2011  12:28 AM
martin wrote:
babyKnicks wrote:
martin wrote:
babyKnicks wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:I think Billups compliments Amare & Melo better than Bosh compliments Lebron & Wade. Therefore I like our big 3 and we may have role players who can score & defend better

I was thinking the same...we have our big three and possibly the 3rd best 3 in the league.

mostly I think Bosh is a *****

Bosh is gluelike...he is doing all the dirty work. Amare is an animal though. Billups is better than advertised.

i don't agree and don't see that happening at all. He barely gets rebounds and is very soft. Don't watch a ton of Miami games but I don't seem him as anything but an average defender/intimidater.

Interesting...he just put up 20/12 and has 9, 8, 9 rebounds the last three.

I'll keep watching.

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2/28/2011  12:34 AM
If this is the kind of thread created out of a big victory like this one, I can't wait to read the pure anger which will come from the OP after our next loss.
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2/28/2011  12:35 AM
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knicks1248 wrote:I thought he was trying to get a feel for his new players, he played 11 guys...cmon
He does that at the beginning of the season and last year at the trade deadline he played around with his line up quite a bit. Its a new team. I just hope it the team wins while he is figuring things out. In the past they haven't.

If he wants to have the kind of energy on the court which produced this defensive effort, he is going to have to open up the rotation.

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2/28/2011  12:36 AM
Paladin55 wrote:If this is the kind of thread created out of a big victory like this one, I can't wait to read the pure anger which will come from the OP after our next loss.

Rofl...hang tough...it eventually turned into a discussion when the thread creator went into hiding.

May have to start locking the negativity threads to save UK

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2/28/2011  2:23 AM
I still like MDA and hope he wins here.
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2/28/2011  7:24 AM
Coach Mike is a brilliant basketball mind. In only their third game together, Coach Mike led the Knicks to a win over one of the top teams in the league.

He truly is, THE MAN!

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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2/28/2011  7:37 AM
Paladin55 wrote:If this is the kind of thread created out of a big victory like this one, I can't wait to read the pure anger which will come from the OP after our next loss.

Good point. I don't understand the extreme view.

What have we learned, that MDA is preaching the Defense.

The critique that Melo plays defense when he feels up to it is not that far off base. Last nite he was "up" and came up big. Why not, he is a gifted athlete with great quickness. The money is in offensive production. You don't get endorsements on defense, you get it putting up 50 pts.

You watch NBA's best players and they rarely put it all out there for a whole game or whole season.

Calling for MDA's head after two games is just premature.

Would giving him a 3 year extension after last nites game be reasonable?

Mike is handsomely paid. But he has had a roster overhaul each season.

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2/28/2011  9:28 AM
Gold medal winning...like that's an accomplishment? MDA? true Stat had nothing to do with us getting relevant again.

OasisBU wrote:These threads are pointless. You want a gold medal winning coach with a solid record in the NBA gone? The Knicks have been bad since 99 - who coached them back to relevancy? MDA last time I checked.
D'Antoni has to go!

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