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Melo vs. Marbs--Year 1 Comparisons


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Bonn1997
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In year 1 with Marbury, the Knicks went 25-22 (.532). How will the Knicks finish year 1 in games Carmelo plays?
Better than .532
Worse than .532
About .532
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Bonn1997
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2/26/2011  8:46 PM
TheloniusMonk wrote:Marbury was never considered a top NBA franchise player. Ever. He got paid to try and BECOME a franchise player. Melo brought the Nuggets from the basement of the league to ultimately the Western Conf finals....WITH the franchise tag. This poll is unbelievable.

Why don't you go on record and predict how much better than Marbury's .532 mark you see Carmelo and the Knicks finishing the season at?
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2/26/2011  9:35 PM
we went from howard eisley to ny breed steph marbury, you damn right the vast majority was on board.

But how do you compare a pg's duties to a SF like melo..

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2/26/2011  11:36 PM
This is stupid.
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TheloniusMonk
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2/27/2011  1:28 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
TheloniusMonk wrote:Marbury was never considered a top NBA franchise player. Ever. He got paid to try and BECOME a franchise player. Melo brought the Nuggets from the basement of the league to ultimately the Western Conf finals....WITH the franchise tag. This poll is unbelievable.

Why don't you go on record and predict how much better than Marbury's .532 mark you see Carmelo and the Knicks finishing the season at?

Dude, for me to do that would insinuate that this even makes an ounce of sense.

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Bonn1997
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2/27/2011  8:11 AM
TheloniusMonk wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
TheloniusMonk wrote:Marbury was never considered a top NBA franchise player. Ever. He got paid to try and BECOME a franchise player. Melo brought the Nuggets from the basement of the league to ultimately the Western Conf finals....WITH the franchise tag. This poll is unbelievable.

Why don't you go on record and predict how much better than Marbury's .532 mark you see Carmelo and the Knicks finishing the season at?

Dude, for me to do that would insinuate that this even makes an ounce of sense.

If you're in denial that we've returned to the Melobury era or error, then I could see how the poll would be confusing.

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2/27/2011  11:42 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
TheloniusMonk wrote:Marbury was never considered a top NBA franchise player. Ever. He got paid to try and BECOME a franchise player. Melo brought the Nuggets from the basement of the league to ultimately the Western Conf finals....WITH the franchise tag. This poll is unbelievable.

Why don't you go on record and predict how much better than Marbury's .532 mark you see Carmelo and the Knicks finishing the season at?

Another stupid statement. Man you are so negative. The trade wasn't made for evaluating these 28 games. The roster was hurt short term plus time for the players to get acclimated to each other and the system Look at next 3 years and then evaluate the percentages.

fishmike 9/27/2024 11:00 PM Ug I hate this. The idea of Towns is great until you see what a pussy he is. Jules is a dog. DD was a flamethrower locked up cheap for 3 more years. First Leon move I hate
Bonn1997
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2/27/2011  11:44 AM
Carmelo's got baggage and is gonna be on his best behavior in year 1 like Marbury was. You're assuming things will get better after year 1 but it could easily be the opposite. Being negative is much more realistic than being positive when your organization is run by James Dolan.
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2/27/2011  3:00 PM
in Marbury's first game as a knick we lost to the cavs. spoooooky.
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2/27/2011  3:43 PM
Some excerpts from the article I alluded to in another thread about Marbury, don't see Melo acting like this...


http://articles.nydailynews.com/2008-11-29/sports/17911020_1_stephon-marbury-knicks-allan-houston

Feb 04 2010, New York — Stephon Marbury is going away kicking and screaming, an exit befitting a spoiled millionaire whose introduction to the Knicks was also loud and thoroughly obnoxious.

In the years before the franchise was hijacked by the point guard from Coney Island, the Knicks had an unwritten policy that if you wanted to listen to music before a game you had to do so wearing headphones. Patrick Ewing, Charles Oakley, Larry Johnson and Latrell Sprewell, all winners in New York, obeyed the rule.

But when Marbury walked into the visitors' locker room in Cleveland before his first game with the Knicks, he turned up the volume of his sound system and immediately turned off his co-workers. In a matter of minutes, Marbury had set a world record for alienating teammates.

In the grand scheme of things, it was a minor infraction, especially when compared to Marbury's subsequent misdeeds as a Knick. But it was an example of how naive and selfish he was and remains. It mattered not to Marbury that he was replacing two popular players, Charlie Ward and Antonio McDyess, or that Ward also was best friends with the Knicks' most respected and longest-tenured player, Allan Houston. Nor had any of the Knicks forgotten that in 1999 Marbury had mocked Ward, saying that he could never lead them to a championship.

If ever a player needed to understand locker-room protocol, this was the time. But Marbury never learned. Isiah Thomas gave him the keys to the organization and the rest of the team be damned. Soon enough, Marbury would drive the franchise off a cliff.

The irony now is that after all these years of mistreating coaches, staff members and teammates, Marbury is feeling victimized.

Marbury now says the "marriage" is over, which is an interesting analogy from a guy who had an extra-marital affair with an intern and then laughed about it after testifying in Thomas' sexual harassment trial. But this is the world according to Steph. The only people he'll deal with are those in the organization and media who live to serve him. There is no middle ground. The rest are treated like dirt.

That's why Kurt Thomas and Quentin Richardson wanted to fight him. That's why one of the NBA's true ambassadors, Dikembe Mutombo, despised him. And that's why you can't feel badly for Marbury.

He deserved better from the Knicks over the past six weeks. And they deserved better from him the last six seasons.

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2/27/2011  3:53 PM
Marbury should do a reality show. "Starbury's Shenanigans" or something like that
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2/27/2011  4:24 PM
skeng wrote:Marbury should do a reality show. "Starbury's Shenanigans" or something like that

The Steph goast came back to UK for the reason.
Knicks are back to starpunching in full swing.
Can it be a short success like with Rangers in 1994 or total failure like with last decade Knicks remains to be seen.
But one thing is already clear. While Dolan is running the show there will be no Dinasty in NYC bbal.

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2/27/2011  5:37 PM
arkrud wrote:
skeng wrote:Marbury should do a reality show. "Starbury's Shenanigans" or something like that

The Steph goast came back to UK for the reason.
Knicks are back to starpunching in full swing.
Can it be a short success like with Rangers in 1994 or total failure like with last decade Knicks remains to be seen.
But one thing is already clear. While Dolan is running the show there will be no Dinasty in NYC bbal.


I feel bad for some of you guys because some of you will not live to see the Knicks being run by someone else than Jimmie D. Me being young, I will see one heckuva dynasty with kids being born tommorrow. And I agree, as long as Dolan runs the show it's like rooting for Isiah, which is like rooting for satan, which is like rooting for eternal unhappiness.. I hate having this owner ruining everything all the time.

someone drop a nuke in Dolan's ass plz

Legalize di NBA
Bonn1997
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2/27/2011  6:10 PM
arkrud wrote:
skeng wrote:Marbury should do a reality show. "Starbury's Shenanigans" or something like that

The Steph goast came back to UK for the reason.
Knicks are back to starpunching in full swing.
Can it be a short success like with Rangers in 1994 or total failure like with last decade Knicks remains to be seen.
But one thing is already clear. While Dolan is running the show there will be no Dinasty in NYC bbal.

I doubt they ever left starphucking. They were just accumulating assets to get their next "star"

Bonn1997
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2/27/2011  6:12 PM
skeng wrote:
arkrud wrote:
skeng wrote:Marbury should do a reality show. "Starbury's Shenanigans" or something like that

The Steph goast came back to UK for the reason.
Knicks are back to starpunching in full swing.
Can it be a short success like with Rangers in 1994 or total failure like with last decade Knicks remains to be seen.
But one thing is already clear. While Dolan is running the show there will be no Dinasty in NYC bbal.


I feel bad for some of you guys because some of you will not live to see the Knicks being run by someone else than Jimmie D. Me being young, I will see one heckuva dynasty with kids being born tommorrow. And I agree, as long as Dolan runs the show it's like rooting for Isiah, which is like rooting for satan, which is like rooting for eternal unhappiness.. I hate having this owner ruining everything all the time.

someone drop a nuke in Dolan's ass plz


The Knicks are run owned by Cablevision. Dolan is just the current CEO. After him, it'll be some other CEO who uses the Knicks to bring in as much immediate cash to the corporation as possible. The real problem is that a a for profit corporation owns the team.
Melo vs. Marbs--Year 1 Comparisons

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