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Is There Still An Afterglow... After Cleveland, Miami and Orlando?
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matt
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2/25/2011  2:40 PM
I can't wait till the game Sunday to see how we actually stack up against them. Beating them in the first round would be probably be the greatest moment I can think of
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misterearl
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2/25/2011  10:42 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
misterearl wrote:Knickoftime - Better not count those playoff victories before Ticketmaster prints the discount coupons. The Bulls just beat the Heat.

Not counting anything other than a trip to the dance, but that said, yes, the Bulls just beat the Heat. But the Bulls just lost to the Raptors too.

Putting weight in 1 game of 82 is never a good proposition.

The Cleveland game tonight is no cakewalk. This road trip is not simply about the playoffs, but sets a tone for the franchise moving forward.

Why isn't it a cakewalks?

Talk about low expectations.

If you try hard enough you can come up with reasons why a bad team is dangerous on any given night. But Cleveland is the worst team in the league, and are going to be without some of the few healthy players they had on their roster.

Knicks should absolutely expect, and win, this game.

There are no cakewalks in the NBA

I miss Mozgov

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2/25/2011  10:55 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
misterearl wrote:Knickoftime - Better not count those playoff victories before Ticketmaster prints the discount coupons. The Bulls just beat the Heat.

Not counting anything other than a trip to the dance, but that said, yes, the Bulls just beat the Heat. But the Bulls just lost to the Raptors too.

Putting weight in 1 game of 82 is never a good proposition.

The Cleveland game tonight is no cakewalk. This road trip is not simply about the playoffs, but sets a tone for the franchise moving forward.

Why isn't it a cakewalks?

Talk about low expectations.

If you try hard enough you can come up with reasons why a bad team is dangerous on any given night. But Cleveland is the worst team in the league, and are going to be without some of the few healthy players they had on their roster.

Knicks should absolutely expect, and win, this game.

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You sounded obtuse before the trade and following the same pattern. this team is worse than the one we had. How could 3 Olympic players on the same team lost to a team that catered 26 times in a row? Its not like we were b-b? why did they Argentinians kill us that year--because it was not a well constructed team

now go twiddle your thumbs

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2/25/2011  11:28 PM
glad to see you guys are being patient.
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2/25/2011  11:30 PM
crzymdups wrote:glad to see you guys are being patient.

I'll say it again:

It's not the loss to the Cavaliers...it's HOW we lost. We've been losing like this the entire season. Shitty defense, poor rebounding, poor rotations, poor coaching.

End of story.

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2/25/2011  11:33 PM
crzymdups wrote:glad to see you guys are being patient.

Patience and New York City are rarely used in the same sentence.

crzymdups - How many games do you want to allow this rotation to become coherant?

C'mon son, it was the Cavs, who just lost 26 in a row.

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2/25/2011  11:33 PM
Childs2Dudley wrote:
crzymdups wrote:glad to see you guys are being patient.

I'll say it again:

It's not the loss to the Cavaliers...it's HOW we lost. We've been losing like this the entire season. Shitty defense, poor rebounding, poor rotations, poor coaching.

End of story.

It's a new team trying to learn how to play together.

I agree D'Antoni had some bad coaching moments. Letting Carmelo get schooled twice in a row by Jamison isn't good for anyone - and it's he fouled out.

I'm going to be a little patient here.

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2/25/2011  11:35 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/25/2011  11:35 PM
Some bad coaching moments? I would say many bad coaching moments.

The fact that he had two very good defenders benched (Brewer, Shelden) for one of the worst in Bill Walker and playing Shawne Williams at center because they can shoot 3's is pathetic and sad.

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2/25/2011  11:43 PM
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crzymdups wrote:glad to see you guys are being patient.

Patience and New York City are rarely used in the same sentence.

crzymdups - How many games do you want to allow this rotation to become coherant?

C'mon son, it was the Cavs, who just lost 26 in a row.

Earl, I thought you were all about looking for incremental growth and the beginnings of chemistry and stuff?

Tonight, I saw Carmelo and Amar'e having no idea how to play together whatsoever and trying to learn on the fly. The team looked okay when it was either Carmelo or Amar'e. Amar'e seemed to find his game in the late fourth quarter, at least. Chauncey took over the game and looked good.

The offense is going to take some time to figure out. It took Miami a good 15 games + pre-season. Give the Knicks at least 10-15 games before you start expecting cohesion.

And the Cavs beat the Lakers and lost to Houston by 5 in their last two games - they're playing a little better lately.

Whatever, you don't need to be patient. Rage on, my good man. Wilson is 2-7 out in Portland and Denver is losing to Portland by 10 in the second quarter, the same place where the Knicks won in a blowout a month ago. I guess it might take Denver a minute to adjust? Oh, wait, I forgot patience is rarely mentioned on the internet.

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2/25/2011  11:49 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/25/2011  11:56 PM
The effort defensively was not there, the hustle plays were not there..Amare, billups, and Melo, were dreadful defensively..You look at amare's blocks (4) and wonder why he doesn't go after rebounds and lose balls with the same enthusiasum.
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2/25/2011  11:57 PM
They can learn things from the loss. When you get to look at film and someone points out what you did wrong, it can at least help to get them to figure out the problems. It's so early in the process that you can't go overboard. We saw the areas of concern in the 1st game, but they won so it gets overlooked. This game we saw similar things, but it's not like a light switch. That's why we've got to give them a chance to figure things out. This is going to be very tough cuz the schedule has very few breaks. They've just got to tough it out.
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2/26/2011  12:15 AM
crzymdups wrote:
misterearl wrote:
crzymdups wrote:glad to see you guys are being patient.

Patience and New York City are rarely used in the same sentence.

crzymdups - How many games do you want to allow this rotation to become coherant?

C'mon son, it was the Cavs, who just lost 26 in a row.

Earl, I thought you were all about looking for incremental growth and the beginnings of chemistry and stuff?

Tonight, I saw Carmelo and Amar'e having no idea how to play together whatsoever and trying to learn on the fly. The team looked okay when it was either Carmelo or Amar'e. Amar'e seemed to find his game in the late fourth quarter, at least. Chauncey took over the game and looked good.

The offense is going to take some time to figure out. It took Miami a good 15 games + pre-season. Give the Knicks at least 10-15 games before you start expecting cohesion.

And the Cavs beat the Lakers and lost to Houston by 5 in their last two games - they're playing a little better lately.

Whatever, you don't need to be patient. Rage on, my good man. Wilson is 2-7 out in Portland and Denver is losing to Portland by 10 in the second quarter, the same place where the Knicks won in a blowout a month ago. I guess it might take Denver a minute to adjust? Oh, wait, I forgot patience is rarely mentioned on the internet.

crzymdups - there are 20 fewer rebounds reasons to rage on.

Pointing out The Ex-Mayors scoring stats are so far away from the issue that you disappoint me. Even Doris Burke recognizes Chandler's strong defense as a benefit to Stoudemire.

Forget the porous defense. The Knicks need to develop fourth, fifth and sixth options on offense and do it quickly because three NEVER beats five. The top heavy shot distribution is an indicator of selfishness. How can Landry Fields, one of the best shooters (3-3 from three point range) manage only 7 shot attempts?

Playing without a center is crazy. No, Ronny Turiaf is NOT a center. He is a forward.

I have a bad feeling about this.

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2/26/2011  12:36 AM
the shot distribution is because they don't have the offense figured out yet so they revert to iso basketball. once they learn the system, the offense will look better.

i can't argue that the lack of wilson and gallo's defense. and the lack of a center.

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2/26/2011  12:38 AM
Road Rage

"Rage on, my good man. Wilson is 2-7 out in Portland and Denver is losing to Portland by 10 in the second quarter, the same place where the Knicks won in a blowout a month ago"

Not so fast crzymdups, Denver is up by 7 after three quarters, Gallo has 25 and 7 - and the Ex-Mayor (17) is leading the way with a solid effort on both ends.

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2/26/2011  12:44 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/26/2011  12:45 AM
misterearl wrote:Road Rage

"Rage on, my good man. Wilson is 2-7 out in Portland and Denver is losing to Portland by 10 in the second quarter, the same place where the Knicks won in a blowout a month ago"

Not so fast crzymdups, Denver is up by 7 after three quarters, Gallo has 25 and 7 - and the Ex-Mayor (17) is leading the way with a solid effort on both ends.

yeah, you missed the point - the point was to be patient and not draw conclusions from an unfinished body of work. like trying to predict the outcome of a game in the 2nd qtr.

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2/26/2011  12:47 AM
I'm just wondering why they haven't signed Barron yet? He's not under any kind of restriction is he? I know Jared has to wait to clear waivers, but what's the deal with Barron? I thought for sure he'd be brought in, since he's a perfect fit. Anyone heard anything?
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2/26/2011  12:48 AM
crzymdups - exactly how much patience are you suggesting (in terms of number of games) for two all stars and a hall of fame point guard?

Please define patience my good man.

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2/26/2011  12:50 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/26/2011  12:50 AM
misterearl wrote:crzymdups - exactly how much patience are you suggesting (in terms of number of games) for two all stars and a hall of fame point guard?

Please define patience my good man.

i did in the same post which you've been cherry-picking for quotes out of context. i said how about 10-15 games?

that's what i'm expecting.

here's what i said the first time:

Give the Knicks at least 10-15 games before you start expecting cohesion.
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2/26/2011  12:50 AM
crzymdups wrote:
misterearl wrote:crzymdups - exactly how much patience are you suggesting (in terms of number of games) for two all stars and a hall of fame point guard?

Please define patience my good man.

i did in the same post which you've been cherry-picking for quotes out of context. i said how about 10-15 games?

that's what i'm expecting.

It took 17 games for the Miami Trio.

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2/26/2011  12:51 AM
nixluva wrote:I'm just wondering why they haven't signed Barron yet? He's not under any kind of restriction is he? I know Jared has to wait to clear waivers, but what's the deal with Barron? I thought for sure he'd be brought in, since he's a perfect fit. Anyone heard anything?

No one seems to have saw this, but what's the deal?
Is There Still An Afterglow... After Cleveland, Miami and Orlando?

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