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ToddTT
Posts: 30519 Alba Posts: 53 Joined: 8/30/2001 Member: #105 |
2/25/2011 7:58 AM
Elite wrote:
Oh good lord... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XkmGrX7O0lQ
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Vmart
Posts: 31800 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/23/2002 Member: #247 USA |
2/25/2011 10:33 AM
So much for going forward. Adding Jefferies is a huge step backwards, please wait for Murphy. I'd rather have him on the Knicks as he brings a better game and actually more what the Knicks need especially in the rebounding dept.
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fishmike
Posts: 53837 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
2/25/2011 11:38 AM
Vmart wrote:So much for going forward. Adding Jefferies is a huge step backwards, please wait for Murphy. I'd rather have him on the Knicks as he brings a better game and actually more what the Knicks need especially in the rebounding dept. Murphy boards but his defense makes David Lee look like Ben Wallace. JJ played well here "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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crzymdups
Posts: 52018 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/1/2004 Member: #671 USA |
2/25/2011 11:49 AM LAST EDITED: 2/25/2011 11:51 AM
fishmike wrote:Vmart wrote:So much for going forward. Adding Jefferies is a huge step backwards, please wait for Murphy. I'd rather have him on the Knicks as he brings a better game and actually more what the Knicks need especially in the rebounding dept. Agreed. I'd rather chase Joel Pryzbila and Leon Powe for their defense than Troy Murphy for his shooting/rebounding. Troy Murphy is not a banger at all. Jeffries at least is a decent shotblocker and clogs the paint and gets charges - which sounds lame, but all parts of good defense. Murphy fits the team okay... but so does Jeffries. Jeffries would be a good pickup here. Expecting to find a starter on the waiver wire at this point in the season is kind of insane. Jeffries can platoon at center with Ronny Turiaf and play some good D. It'd be nice to get someone with a little more size like Barron or Powe or Pryz to deal with the Dwight Howards and Joakim Noahs of the East. Real glad we don't have to worry about Kendrick Perkins anymore. Can't believe the Celtics traded that dude! ¿ △ ?
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fishmike
Posts: 53837 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
2/25/2011 12:08 PM
Last year before the TMac trade the Knicks were starting to play pretty good ball and the team defense was very solid with TD starting to get minutes and JJ taking up 1/3 of the floor on zone defense. His ability to guard multiple guys and really lock people up when you press is why Isiah signed him. It was too much money, too long and too many years, but JJ is very good at his role. The problem is you really have to have solid scoring around him because he's so bad on offense.
Not really an issue as 75% of our shots will be taken by 3 guys. what we need are lunch pale guys that defend, rebound and do the little things on offense like set picks, etc "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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GodSaveTheKnicks
Posts: 23952 Alba Posts: 21 Joined: 11/21/2006 Member: #1207 USA |
2/25/2011 12:11 PM LAST EDITED: 2/25/2011 12:13 PM
I like this move. Low to no risk. Fields/Brewer/Jefferies/TD/Shawne Williams all play scrappy D. If Amare and Melo have those games where they're fighting really hard on D too...
Would love Chuck Hayes but Rockets know his value to that team..gives Amare fits Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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Panos
Posts: 30087 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 1/6/2004 Member: #520 |
2/25/2011 12:12 PM
Newsflash: Jeffries is not a center.
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SupremeCommander
Posts: 34057 Alba Posts: 35 Joined: 4/28/2006 Member: #1127 |
2/25/2011 12:13 PM
fishmike wrote:JJ is very good at his role. When Isiah signed JJ, his role was vague and large. Under Prongles, he wasn't asked to really exceed his skillset, though was still a big part of the rotation. Now, the scope of his role will become even more specialized, and will suit his strength just fine. This team needs another star and specialists. Houston is letting a good specialist go because they need Jeffries roster spot to do more, because their roster sucks DLeethal wrote:
Lol Rick needs a safe space
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NYKBocker
Posts: 38412 Alba Posts: 474 Joined: 1/14/2003 Member: #377 USA |
2/25/2011 12:15 PM
I don't get this move. We don't need another SF. We need a center that can rebound and defend the paint.
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SupremeCommander
Posts: 34057 Alba Posts: 35 Joined: 4/28/2006 Member: #1127 |
2/25/2011 12:18 PM
NYKBocker wrote:I don't get this move. We don't need another SF. We need a center that can rebound and defend the paint. he was the Knicks' best defender when he got shipped out and he knows the system. I would've went a different route but don't dislike this either DLeethal wrote:
Lol Rick needs a safe space
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technomaster
Posts: 23348 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/30/2003 Member: #426 USA |
2/25/2011 12:18 PM
I think D'Antoni's system has worked well this year, particularly when all 5 players on the court can score. The Knicks played better when Turiaf was looking for his shot.
JJ is a terrible offensive player. Don't know what happened between his last year @ Indiana and now. “That was two, two from the heart.” - John Starks
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Markji
Posts: 22753 Alba Posts: -4 Joined: 9/14/2007 Member: #1673 USA |
2/25/2011 12:23 PM
Maybe we are picking up 2 players - Jeffries and a center - probably Barron.
At least these 2 guys are not injured. Many of the other names thrown around are/have been injured - Przybella, Powe. Which means that we have to cut 2 players - Balkman and one of Azu or Mason (we have 4 SG - Fields, Walker, Azu, Mason) We keep Carter as our 3rd PG and TD can also move over to SG so we'll have 6 guards which is a good balance. The difference between fiction and reality? Fiction has to make sense.
Tom Clancy - author
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markvmc
Posts: 21996 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 1/6/2008 Member: #1797 |
2/25/2011 12:25 PM
NYKBocker wrote:I don't get this move. We don't need another SF. We need a center that can rebound and defend the paint. Is there a defensive center available? If not, then what's wrong with signing a low-cost defensive 6.11 guy? |
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Knickoftime
Posts: 24159 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/13/2011 Member: #3370 |
2/25/2011 12:29 PM
Hahn just tweeted Azubuike might actually be close to playing.
Mason is certainly #1. Knicks seemed committed to Rautins. They won't give up on clearing Balkman's cap off the 2012 books. Carter could have killed this deal (he has to waive his Bird Rights) and I don't think the KNicks will punish him for it (unless he knows there is another team out there that would give him more PT). IF they bring in two big men, I think Williams might be the one to go. |
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Panos
Posts: 30087 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 1/6/2004 Member: #520 |
2/25/2011 12:34 PM
Can't wait for the groans to (re)start when JJ2 airballs an 8-foot shot or clanks it off the bottom of the rim on a layup.
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umynot
Posts: 21465 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/4/2008 Member: #2093 USA |
2/25/2011 12:38 PM
I hate Fishlips more then anyone in the NBA
But He is 6'11 hustles and does not need to score with this team. He already knows how to play here! Ohh and he comes for free. He will help more then hurt KNICKS on the way UP!!!
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