Knickoftime wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Were going to have two ball dominant players who really play a similar game(that is why there stats are so close) from the mid range in--

Same was said of Miami.

Now I will totally grant you that Melo/Stat as a tandem are NOT as good as Wade/James, but they figured out how to co-exist.

People were convinced they couldn't. At 9-8, people were giddy about it.

Look what happened.

Billups is 34 and felton 26 felton can run Billups is getting slow.

Has the reason why Felton was given a 2 year deal completely escaped you?

just to get an even net you will need a player who avg 10 -4 -4 and is roughly 20 years old--just to break even.

Raw accumulated stats?

Really?

Melo and Amare are not the complete ball players that Wade and James are, and neither have the ability to make major adaptations in how they play he game.

Paladin55 wrote:Melo and Amare are not the complete ball players that Wade and James are,

I said as much.

and neither have the ability to make major adaptations in how they play he game.

How do you know that?

We will just have to wait and see, truth is players like Melo caliber teamed up with another such as Amare might not come for another lifetime.
I wouldn't say we got raped for this deal though, however, if we can acquire Melo through FA it would greatly benefit our future.
It is quite a fair deal for both teams.

Knickoftime wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Just sit back and think about it for one minute

Okay.

This team will be WORSE we will have two Amares looking to shoot the 12 footer--no passing and the floor wont spread as easily.

Interesting conclusions.

Felton is shooting south of .330 from 3 pt range.

Billups north of .440.

Chandler and Gallinari both average 1.7 assists a game. Anthony 2.8.

And he's only shooting about .020 point less behind the arc than either of these two players.

And he rebounds better.

Now I understand stats can be deceiving sometimes, but care to explain how your conclusions fly completely against any and all statistic evidence?

Wait forgot to talk about ball movement--that will be gone. two 25 shot chuckers on the same team who loathe passing. LOL

But again, Gallo doesn't pass at any significantly higher rate than Anthony. This is a statistical fact. So what's your point exactly?

He has more assists than Fields too, but these numbers are meaningless because they take no account of the roles they play on their respective teams.

Anthony is the dominant scorer on his team (he has averaaged about 20 shots/gm in his career), just as Amare is, and both average about the same APG. Based on games you've watched do you really think that they are better "passers" than Fields or Gallo?

And I'm not even including the kind of passes which contribute to a team's success but don't necessarily lead to assists.

2'2s to toronto for their exception moved on to Clev with azu for Jamison sesions and their exception. use that exception on Dalembart.

that would net is a defensive C a6th man in jamison(also an ending contract next year and Sessions who will help with team speed either as a starting 2 guard or off the bench

we would need a massive second move then jell it together in 25 games. You HAVE to address C/defense and when you lose xchandler--that a big net loss off the bench no one we have is near as good. we need a replacement and bringing in Billups makes us slower and we need more punch off the bench again.

Paladin55 wrote:Anthony is the dominant scorer on his team (he has averaaged about 20 shots/gm in his career), just as Amare is, and both average about the same APG. Based on games you've watched do you really think that they are better "passers" than Fields or Gallo?

I have always found Melo to be a much better and more willing passer than he gets credit for.

And I'm not even including the kind of passes which contribute to a team's success but don't necessarily lead to assists.

I think we should and factor in the fact Denver has a better record than the Knicks.

BRIGGS wrote:to make this team competitive--we would have to do something like this

2'2s to toronto for their exception moved on to Clev with azu for Jamison sesions and their exception. use that exception on Dalembart.

that would net is a defensive C a6th man in jamison(also an ending contract next year and Sessions who will help with team speed either as a starting 2 guard or off the bench

we would need a massive second move then jell it together in 25 games. You HAVE to address C/defense and when you lose xchandler--that a big net loss off the bench no one we have is near as good. we need a replacement and bringing in Billups makes us slower and we need more punch off the bench again.

Waitaminute.

I thought the Knicks were building for a championship?

Jamison, Sessions and Dalembert is your solution to compete with Miami in the next 3-4 years?

Knickoftime wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:to make this team competitive--we would have to do something like this

2'2s to toronto for their exception moved on to Clev with azu for Jamison sesions and their exception. use that exception on Dalembart.

that would net is a defensive C a6th man in jamison(also an ending contract next year and Sessions who will help with team speed either as a starting 2 guard or off the bench

we would need a massive second move then jell it together in 25 games. You HAVE to address C/defense and when you lose xchandler--that a big net loss off the bench no one we have is near as good. we need a replacement and bringing in Billups makes us slower and we need more punch off the bench again.

Waitaminute.

I thought the Knicks were building for a championship?

Jamison, Sessions and Dalembert is your solution to compete with Miami in the next 3-4 years?

+1

With the addition of Melo, it would be interesting to see how Douglous performs. I personally think, our 2nd core, should inflict Defense, and running.
With

Douglous
player like Petrius&Barnes) role/fields
Melo/fields
Kris Humries type roles....
Dalembert