That meeting must've gone well enough for the conference call to be scheduled for today.

Get It Done, Donnie (and Dolan)... Hammer out a fair deal and get this Melo deal done.

joec32033 wrote:

martin wrote:

joec32033 wrote:

nixluva wrote:My guess is that the deal will be Chan, Fields, Felton, Curry, AR/pick for Melo, Billups and Carter. OR the Knicks might actually try to get Nene from Denver. That could help Denver too and solve our need for another big.

There were reports out there Billups does not want to come to NY or NJ and would force his hand to Miami. The Billups/Felton part of this is way too complicated.

My offer: Chandler, Curry, AR, AZ, Turiaf, Mason, picks and 3 mil for Anthony and Nene

Never heard the Miami part. And I think Billups only wanted to force his hand when it involved NJ.

I am looking for the article. It was a little blurb probably from damn twitter...Basically it is making the rounds the only team he wants to go to is Miami.

there are gonna be a lot of vets with the miami-or-bust mentality until we get fully equipped in the arms race. melo needs to know that sacrifices have to be made when building superpowers. i still believe strongly that all the media leaks are far from what's really happening. this is not far from the lebron-bosh-wade saga. it just has a different twist.

eViL wrote:

joec32033 wrote:

martin wrote:

joec32033 wrote:

nixluva wrote:My guess is that the deal will be Chan, Fields, Felton, Curry, AR/pick for Melo, Billups and Carter. OR the Knicks might actually try to get Nene from Denver. That could help Denver too and solve our need for another big.

There were reports out there Billups does not want to come to NY or NJ and would force his hand to Miami. The Billups/Felton part of this is way too complicated.

My offer: Chandler, Curry, AR, AZ, Turiaf, Mason, picks and 3 mil for Anthony and Nene

Never heard the Miami part. And I think Billups only wanted to force his hand when it involved NJ.

I am looking for the article. It was a little blurb probably from damn twitter...Basically it is making the rounds the only team he wants to go to is Miami.

there are gonna be a lot of vets with the miami-or-bust mentality until we get fully equipped in the arms race. melo needs to know that sacrifices have to be made when building superpowers. i still believe strongly that all the media leaks are far from what's really happening. this is not far from the lebron-bosh-wade saga. it just has a different twist.

Yeah. That's all true. I still think Billups for us is redundant and a step in the wrong direction of the overall goal of this team. There is absolutely no reason for Denver to trade Chauncey. His contract is favorable(they can terminate it or have a 14 mil trade chip)....We don't NEED a PG. We need a C. I said it before, I am willing to sell off alot of our youth (I just want to keep Fields or Gallo) if we got Nene with Anthony.

joec32033 wrote:

eViL wrote:

joec32033 wrote:

martin wrote:

joec32033 wrote:

nixluva wrote:My guess is that the deal will be Chan, Fields, Felton, Curry, AR/pick for Melo, Billups and Carter. OR the Knicks might actually try to get Nene from Denver. That could help Denver too and solve our need for another big.

There were reports out there Billups does not want to come to NY or NJ and would force his hand to Miami. The Billups/Felton part of this is way too complicated.

My offer: Chandler, Curry, AR, AZ, Turiaf, Mason, picks and 3 mil for Anthony and Nene

Never heard the Miami part. And I think Billups only wanted to force his hand when it involved NJ.

I am looking for the article. It was a little blurb probably from damn twitter...Basically it is making the rounds the only team he wants to go to is Miami.

there are gonna be a lot of vets with the miami-or-bust mentality until we get fully equipped in the arms race. melo needs to know that sacrifices have to be made when building superpowers. i still believe strongly that all the media leaks are far from what's really happening. this is not far from the lebron-bosh-wade saga. it just has a different twist.

Yeah. That's all true. I still think Billups for us is redundant and a step in the wrong direction of the overall goal of this team. There is absolutely no reason for Denver to trade Chauncey. His contract is favorable(they can terminate it or have a 14 mil trade chip)....We don't NEED a PG. We need a C. I said it before, I am willing to sell off alot of our youth (I just want to keep Fields or Gallo) if we got Nene with Anthony.

yeah, i'd add mosgov to the mix if nene was coming back.

chandler, curry, mosgov, AR, turiaf

for

melo, nene

martin wrote:

Uptown wrote:

eViL wrote:

joec32033 wrote:

nixluva wrote:My guess is that the deal will be Chan, Fields, Felton, Curry, AR/pick for Melo, Billups and Carter. OR the Knicks might actually try to get Nene from Denver. That could help Denver too and solve our need for another big.

There were reports out there Billups does not want to come to NY or NJ and would force his hand to Miami. The Billups/Felton part of this is way too complicated.

My offer: Chandler, Curry, AR, AZ, Turiaf, Mason, picks and 3 mil for Anthony and Nene

i'm a greedy bastard, but i would sign off on that.

No way Denver signs off on that. Chandler and Curry walk in the summer, AZ is damaged goods, Mason is the 11th man on a 500. team and for the hell of it, the Nuggs are gonna throw in their starting center? Come on guys. I know we are Knick fans here, but we are not fleecing anyone for an allstar. We have to give to get.

Chandler can't walk, he is an RFA. AZ is more cap relief, remember the insurance kick-in?

Denver's downside risk: Melo and Nene both opt and they end up with NADA.

Perhaps Melo is also suggesting to the Knicks who he wants the Knicks to keep. He may like to play with certain other players. I remember how Melo complimented Gallo last year when they went head-to-head. Melo wants to win - he wants the Knicks to keep the players around him who he thinks would make us a Championship team.

OjilEye wrote:Er, how can you say "Melo complimented Galo" when they were opponents facing against each other?

eViL wrote:Pau Gasol, Grizzlies 2010 second round draft pick

for

Marc Gasol, Kwame Brown, Javaris Crittenton, Aaron McKie (who the Lakers signed earlier today), 2008 first round pick and 2010 first round pick.

Gasol = Chandler
Kwame, Crittenton, McKie = Curry
AR (or Minnesota pick) = two late first rounders from LA

Melo is far superior to Pau Gasol as a player. Your logic doesn't hold here

JonsTintedTails wrote:Not sold on Felton for Billups. Nothing against CB but he is much older and the chemistry on the team would be destroyed. Felton has been solid for us.

The only guys I care to keep are Stat, Felton and Fields. Everybody else can go.

Exactly, and I mean EXACTLY how I feel bro..Well said..Felton (for the chemistry reason you mentioned and the age factor) and Fields are KEEPERS 100% as in OFF THE TABLE (esp if we're really the only suitor left in this thing)...Anyone else they can have (beside Amar'e of course)..I'm not making this deal to all of a sudden have a PG problem next year if we choose to exercise that buyout option on Billups to save $10M (which I could definitely see the Knicks doing)....After the smoke clears on this deal I'm gonna need to know I'm GOOD at the 4, 3, 2 & 1..Then all I have to do is add a C (don't think Mozgov is the answer, they can have him--he'd make a nice sweetner anyway PLUS I think we can add a better center in this summer's draft), maybe another big & another wing (I'd be OK with adding D-League all-stars Jeff Adrien & Othyus Jeffers RIGHT NOW and then signing them to smart deals for the foreseeable future, deals that fit into our salary structure----and if we can't make that commitment right now for whatever reason, get them for the rest of the year anyway and promise to bring them to training camp next season with a strong chance to make the club), a backup PG upgrade over TD if one ever presents itself (if not, I'm actually OK with TD as the backup point despite his drawbacks) and maybe another shooter (I'd look to grab 6'6" Ohio State swingman Jon Diebler either with a 2nd rounder we decide to purchase or for nothing after the draft if he goes undrafted---I think this dude might be the best shooter in the college game today. His deadeye shooting touch would help cover the loss of Gallinari's perimeter offense).

I say hold firm on the offer that excludes this Felton/Billups swap and Landry Fields..Sweeten it up in other ways --- Mozgov, the rights to Jerome Jordan, $3M in cash, 2014 1st rounder, 2016 first rounder, 2nd round picks, whatever, just devise a way of keeping Ray and Landry the hell outta this!! We're trying to build a contender here..Not grab one good piece and then all of a sudden start looking for an entire new backcourt..Come on..

Welcome to the board btw Jon..