CrushAlot wrote:

TMS wrote:

out
Mosgov
Fields
Chandler
Gallo
felton

Randoplph moved to minny

who said that's gonna be the trade?

That is the trade that I have heard also. It seems like Denver is attempting to negotiate thru the media. What I have heard is that they approached the Lakers and the Nets in regards to Anthony and that they are encouraging Anthony to meet with Prokorhov. I think the only way the Knicks do that deal is if Dolan somehow becomes involved. There is a chance that Denver management maybe anticipating something in the the new CBA that would make it much harder for Anthony to leave the team if he isn't traded.

do u think Den is just leaking that to the press to get the Knicks to back off the trade altogether & pressure Melo to seek other options?

TMS wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

TMS wrote:

out
Mosgov
Fields
Chandler
Gallo
felton

Randoplph moved to minny

who said that's gonna be the trade?

That is the trade that I have heard also. It seems like Denver is attempting to negotiate thru the media. What I have heard is that they approached the Lakers and the Nets in regards to Anthony and that they are encouraging Anthony to meet with Prokorhov. I think the only way the Knicks do that deal is if Dolan somehow becomes involved. There is a chance that Denver management maybe anticipating something in the the new CBA that would make it much harder for Anthony to leave the team if he isn't traded.

do u think Den is just leaking that to the press to get the Knicks to back off the trade altogether & pressure Melo to seek other options?

NEWARK, N.J. -- New Jersey Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov has not changed his mind about the franchise's pursuit of Carmelo Anthony.

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The Russian told team executives last month to end drawn-out trade talks for the Denver Nuggets' All-Star forward and nothing has changed with the NBA trading deadline a week away, his spokeswoman said Thursday.

There were reports on Wednesday that the Nets and Nuggets had renewed talks about a deal for Anthony. However, Prokhorov spokeswoman Ellen Pinchuk said in an e-mail that the billionaire maintains his stance, despite the reports.

"Mikhail has not changed his mind," Pinchuk wrote.

When asked if that meant Prokhorov does not want the Nets to reopen talks with Denver at this point, the spokeswoman said:

"What I said is what I said," she insisted. "Not what you said."

Prokhorov stunned NBA followers last month during a visit to New Jersey when he told the team to end trade talks for Anthony just a day before he was to have a sitdown with the player. At the time Prokhorov said the much ballyhooed, 15-player, three-team deal that also involved the Detroit Pistons had become too expensive. The negotiations had also become too public and the constant rumors were hurting his team.

Prokhorov also said at the time there was no chance the talks would be resurrected.

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A league official with knowledge of the Nets told The Associated Press on Thursday that Denver recently contacted New Jersey to see if there would be any interest in acquiring Anthony, who can become a free agent at the end of the season. The official asked not to be identified because he was not authorized to speak for the Nets.

The Nets and Knicks have been mentioned as the most likely future home for Anthony, should he be traded. And Anthony has been quoted several times that he would love to play for the Knicks.

But the Nets might have more to offer the Nuggets. Rookie power forward Derrick Favors, the No. 3 pick in the draft, has tremendous upside as a 19-year-old. His first season has not been overly impressive because of foul problems and a general learning curve. New Jersey also has five first-round draft picks over the next two years to offer.

Prokhorov and Nets general manager Billy King are expected to be in Los Angeles for the All-Star Game this weekend, and Prokhorov might get a chance to say hello this time to Anthony. Of course, any trade to New Jersey would be contingent on Anthony signing a $65 million contract extension that's been on the table since June.

Anthony also would have to know that coming to New Jersey probably would end his playoff hopes. The Nets have a 17-40 mark entering the break and are 8½ games out of a playoff berth with 25 left.

The Nuggets (32-25), meanwhile, have the seventh-best record in the West.

aienjell wrote:http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6126780

lol...He sounds like a die hard knick fan..first labron, now melo, i'm sure it will be paul or deron next season...

Papabear wrote:

Moonangie wrote:Really lame topic, man. Listening to SAS scream on the radio about how Gallo, Chandler and Fields COMBINED don't offer what Melo does, is just plain ign'ant.

Ever heard of playing D? Chandler does it, Fields does it, Gallo does it. They all do it rather well.
Ever heard of grabbing boards? Fields leads the league in that dpartment (among ALL back court players). Melo...below average rebounder.
Ever heard of ball movement? These three guys are all unselfish with the rock. Melo is a ball stopper. Not necessarily a great idea in MDA's system.
Ever heard of team chemistry? These three guys have already established GREAT chemistry and they all want to be here. Melo is an unknown in this department, so there's no way to compare.

My point: SAS is a ratings whore, just like all the beat guys trying to outdo each other. *BLEEP* him.

Papabear Says

If we have all this defense how come we give up so many points?

Is there a website that gives you points scored and points given up PER POSESSION? that is the stat you should look at, not volume. Volume is a function of the speed at which the game is played.

TMS wrote:

"Mikhail has not changed his mind," Pinchuk wrote.

When asked if that meant Prokhorov does not want the Nets to reopen talks with Denver at this point, the spokeswoman said:

"What I said is what I said," she insisted. "Not what you said."

say wuh???

Now how's that for doubletalk, this dudette should run for a senate seat. Her and Palin in a debate would be thing of beauty, it would bypass any of the SNL spoofs by a mile and half.

loweyecue wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Moonangie wrote:Really lame topic, man. Listening to SAS scream on the radio about how Gallo, Chandler and Fields COMBINED don't offer what Melo does, is just plain ign'ant.

Ever heard of playing D? Chandler does it, Fields does it, Gallo does it. They all do it rather well.
Ever heard of grabbing boards? Fields leads the league in that dpartment (among ALL back court players). Melo...below average rebounder.
Ever heard of ball movement? These three guys are all unselfish with the rock. Melo is a ball stopper. Not necessarily a great idea in MDA's system.
Ever heard of team chemistry? These three guys have already established GREAT chemistry and they all want to be here. Melo is an unknown in this department, so there's no way to compare.

My point: SAS is a ratings whore, just like all the beat guys trying to outdo each other. *BLEEP* him.

Papabear Says

If we have all this defense how come we give up so many points?

Is there a website that gives you points scored and points given up PER POSESSION? that is the stat you should look at, not volume. Volume is a function of the speed at which the game is played.

Papabear Says

Man come on!! Stop that crap. I don't give a crap about Per Possession!!! We can't defend. I don't give 2 hoots about your stats. All I know is what I see game after game. No defense. Take those stats and throw them out the window. And please excuse me for being upset but I see what I see every game.

Moonangie wrote:Really lame topic, man. Listening to SAS scream on the radio about how Gallo, Chandler and Fields COMBINED don't offer what Melo does, is just plain ign'ant.

Ever heard of playing D? Chandler does it, Fields does it, Gallo does it. They all do it rather well.
Ever heard of grabbing boards? Fields leads the league in that dpartment (among ALL back court players). Melo...below average rebounder.
Ever heard of ball movement? These three guys are all unselfish with the rock. Melo is a ball stopper. Not necessarily a great idea in MDA's system.
Ever heard of team chemistry? These three guys have already established GREAT chemistry and they all want to be here. Melo is an unknown in this department, so there's no way to compare.

My point: SAS is a ratings whore, just like all the beat guys trying to outdo each other. *BLEEP* him.

i have to agree with sas here, as much as i like this current knick team we have another big opportunity to improve our team. I believe chandler, gallo and fields are replaceable unlike anthony. A core of billups(temporarily), melo and stat are more solid than stat, felton, and chandler/gallo. Melo and stat along with ny should be enough to fill in the gaps, I'm worried we dont make this deal and we keep coming up short to a better team like in the 90's.

TMS wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:No doubt TMS, but three of our starters (Gallo/Chandler/Fields/Felton), an extra-large expiring (Curry) and maybe a pick (do we have any for the next 5 years?) for Melo & Billups is a LOT to give up, and that's what I keep hearing as the basic offer on the table. That's doing Denver a favor IMHO. I believe one of these guys could become an all-star in a couple years (a la David Lee), and you have to think of value in this equation. Sure these guys aren't Melo, but they don't get paid like Melo, which allows you some flexibility, which seems like the Donnie Walsh mantra.

And in terms of the teamwork thing, it's not that Melo isn't a teamwork type of guy, but he's only one guy! (Despite what they portray in his commercials.) There's something to be said about a core of guys who are familiar with each other and their coach's system (insert '04 Pistons reference here). One of these guys go down, the others can pick up the slack.

And even though he is awesome, a SF isn't even what we really need right now! Defensive center and backup point with 3-range is what we need. If we can get that at an affordable price and get to the second-round of the playoffs for the next couple of years, that is a good thing.

i dunno i happen to think the offer being talked about in the papers seems pretty fair when you consider we'd be able to keep at least 1 of our top 3 young players (Landry/Gallo/Wilson) along with either Mozgov or AR... Felton replaced by Billups is more than fine by me, i probably trust Billups a lot more in a playoff scenario anyways... yes the deal pretty much erases any cap flexibility for the summer but that flexibility is gone anyway if we wait to sign Melo as a FA & we're losing Wilson & AR at the bare minimum even in that scenario.

then consider if we miss out on Melo as a FA, what is the other option, to sign Marc Gasol to a big contract? i don't view him as a game changing piece for our franchise, & all accounts say the Grizzlies are making it a priority to re-sign him this summer... to me the sole purpose we wasted the past 2 years dumping salaries was to have this opportunity to acquire a franchise level stud, not a couple of role players like a defensive C & backup PG... if getting to the 2nd round of the playoffs is your ultimate goal we easily can achieve that with this Melo trade right now, & who knows after that if Mozgov turns out to be worth anything or some other role players are added to low money deals the way Miami added guys like Joel Anthony & Carlos Arroyo, that pretty much fills the positions you're looking to fill anyway.

waiting to sign Melo carries risks, & if making that talked about trade as it's been outlined in recent articles means we're guaranteed of getting Melo in a Knicks uniform, i think we should do it... to me, 2 of our young guys & AR is not too heavy a price to pay to get Melo... that's just losing 1 more young guy than we're gonna lose anyway even if we wait til free agency & hope we can sign him... the benefit is we get him a few months early & get him acclimated to this system & we see this team have a chance to at least make some noise in the playoffs rather than see them taken out with the quickness in the 1st round the way Isiah's team was... after that who knows what will happen with CP3 in 2012, he might force his way to NY just like Melo did... at least then we'd still have a couple young assets along with Billups' expiring contract to offer to get him, no?

i'd give up gallo, chandler and ar in a heartbeat for melo if that is the case. We would have a hall of fame point guard, a great developing rookie shooting guard, two perrenial allstar forwards, and a developing young center. Williams is a good role player on both ends, turiaf is also a good backup center, douglas is great on d and still learning to be a productive point guard(hopefully). I wouldn't take a chance on free agency next year with this opportunity on the table.