fishmike wrote:

SlimChin wrote:I don't care if moz Gets 0 pts per game as long as he rebounds and plays smart D.

i hope they take time to mold this kid. he's athletic and moves well for a center and he fits well into D'Antoni's system—meaning a center that can keep up with the pace of the offense.

he adds a ton of motion to the offense without the ball. He's ultra active away from the ball, he sets tons of picks and screen and seems to do that very well. His size and quickness make him ideal for that and he seems to excel there. He needs a finishing move around the basket that isnt a dunk. Something he can use to draw contact with and still finish. Maybe a finger roll or just use the glass better.

The most promising thing about him is his work ethic. All you hear and read about his how hard he works. Everyone that sniffs the NBA oozes talent, the guys the work the hardest become good players. I sounds like nobody on the team works harder than Mos. Combine that with a good skill set and 7'1 athletic guy and you have a real diamond in the rough here.

I agree about the picks and screens, but I think he rolls off the picks WAY too early. THus, he almost never gets a pass heading to the rim. He should study films of David Lee to see how it's done properly. "No D" Lee has impeccable timing in his release from picks. Moz just gets antsy and rolls off after like two seconds, whether it was useful or not. He needs to breathe more and relax.

But yeah, he's getting close to untouchable. In fact, I think Moz, Gallo and Fields are already untouchable.

JamaicanJetFan wrote:he owned Brand a few times. There was a garbage foul called on Moz when in reality he forced Brand to put up an atrocious air ball

There were a couple of horrible calls against Moz on Sunday. Even the announcers proclaimed there was no foul. Sucks to be a foreign rookie in the NBA, don't it?

JrZyHuStLa wrote:Mozgov will be the ideal defensive big who can give you 8-9 ppg while rebounding and blocking shots at a nice pace once the Knicks reach elite status with Amar'e Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony.

Is there such a thing as renegotiating a rookie contract?

He has good talent on this team and still underachieves. Our team plays zero defense and doesn't rebound. Definetly a D'Antoni trademark. He has them shoot an inordinate amount of 3s'..as was said of him, his a system is a gimmick. It will never lead you to the the title. You might take a game from a great team because everyone is shooting lights out but never a 7 game series.

orangeblobman wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:Good thing Chandler got hurt and we run a short rotation. Also in case you haven't been following we are pretty much a .500 team. I would think that a great coach would have this team a bit better. The flaws of his coaching ere covered up on the Suns by their sheer talent but give D'Antoni a good and not championship caliber team with 3 all stars and this is what you'll get.

orangeblobman wrote:Moz for president!

He's a great, great bonus for this team going into the final stretch.

Hey, to all the MDA nayboobs, the people saying MDA doesn't know or doesn't want to develop young players, what's up? WHAT'S UP BRO!??!

Second season in a row a rookie baller sat for the first few months, was developed behind the scenes, and came on to drop the buckets, SWAT THE BASKETBALL BALLS, ROCK THE HOUSE in the second half of the year.

Name the great coaches that have won a ton of games with no talent. Because that's the mark of a great coach, right? to win without talent?

Nalod wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:There are no great coaches that won without talent but that has nothing to do with D'Antoni becaue he isn't a great coach. Now name the great coaches that have won with talent. What D'Antoni isn't one of them? No way.

He has good talent on this team and still underachieves. Our team plays zero defense and doesn't rebound. Definetly a D'Antoni trademark. He has them shoot an inordinate amount of 3s'..as was said of him, his a system is a gimmick. It will never lead you to the the title. You might take a game from a great team because everyone is shooting lights out but never a 7 game series.

Lather-Rinse-Repeat

This is what I hear when people critisize MDA with all of those cliche's

Roses are red, bananas are yellow,
MDA coaches no defense and likes the 3 ball too much.
He doesn't win in playoffs, and I still want Carmelo.

The team entertains me. I like the games now.

Winning is a process that takes time and patience.

I hear what you don't like, but you don't offer what you do?

Whom should coach the team?

nykshaknbake wrote:I'm just saying he's not a good coach. I like the team. I like the players, but I view D'Antoni a a placeholder rather than someone we will ultamitely be sucessful with. I don't know who is available but that doesn't mean that I should stick my head in the sand and say :) :)what a great job our coach is doing :) :).

Nalod wrote:
Nalod does not have to back it up. Its a fans prerogative to have faith. Faith is unsubstantiated belief.

The team entertains me. I like the games now.

Winning is a process that takes time and patience.

I hear what you don't like, but you don't offer what you do?

Whom should coach the team?

Just think if you gonna put it out there be specific to what areas a coach can better coach. We lead the NBA in blocks and our rebounding stinks. I think it says we are using what we got when we have the top rebounding guard and he is a rookie. We have two staring rookies on the team right now. Same as we started the season with.

What other team starts two rookies? If 40% of your starting roster are rooks and our record is trending at the 6th seed (can always change of course) then I think you being hard. And we bought in a new point, and our first small off the bench is a 2nd year player. Gallo is a 22 year old starter and look how his game has evolved.

We added Amare, not the Savior!

We score a ton of pts and teams that do that usually never are top defensive teams.

Without Moz we are very small. He is our only healthy legit big. Amare at center shows our biggest weakness and that we are not a team with a balanced roster.

That said MDA is I think doing a very good job with a limited roster.

You can say he is not a good coach but there is so much going on with this team its easy to take things for granted.
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Two rookies, 22 year old SF, made Felton barely a starter in Charlotte to near allstar and has coached Amare thus far to performing as a top 3 MVP candidate.

We all want them to do better but thats a pretty good job done after 50 games so far!

We upgraded the point position significantly. Bringing in a proven player who is a good PG but has not been elevated near an All-Star especially with his play of late. We didn't get LeBron but we got the best PF in the game. Gallo is in his 3rd year and this is after playing professional ball. As far as his game evolving, I see the same inconsistent player with a ton of potential.

09-10 NYK 81 74 33.9 0.423 0.381 0.818 0.8 4.1 4.9 1.7 0.9 0.7 1.36 2.36 15.1
10-11 NYK 44 44 34.7 0.425 0.363 0.883 1.0 3.6 4.6 1.8 0.8 0.4 1.09 2.39 16.0

We score a ton of points but we give up nearly as many infact ~0.5 pts/game difference. It is entirely a product of more possessions.

We are definetly a bottom tier team in both defense and rebounding, which are hustle and system sats to which the coach has alot of influence on.

We have pieces in place to be more than a .500 team.

Nalod wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:I'm just saying he's not a good coach. I like the team. I like the players, but I view D'Antoni a a placeholder rather than someone we will ultamitely be sucessful with. I don't know who is available but that doesn't mean that I should stick my head in the sand and say :) :)what a great job our coach is doing :) :).

Nalod wrote:
Nalod does not have to back it up. Its a fans prerogative to have faith. Faith is unsubstantiated belief.

The team entertains me. I like the games now.

Winning is a process that takes time and patience.

I hear what you don't like, but you don't offer what you do?

Whom should coach the team?

Just think if you gonna put it out there be specific to what areas a coach can better coach. We lead the NBA in blocks and our rebounding stinks. I think it says we are using what we got when we have the top rebounding guard and he is a rookie. We have two staring rookies on the team right now. Same as we started the season with.

What other team starts two rookies? If 40% of your starting roster are rooks and our record is trending at the 6th seed (can always change of course) then I think you being hard. And we bought in a new point, and our first small off the bench is a 2nd year player. Gallo is a 22 year old starter and look how his game has evolved.

We added Amare, not the Savior!

We score a ton of pts and teams that do that usually never are top defensive teams.

Without Moz we are very small. He is our only healthy legit big. Amare at center shows our biggest weakness and that we are not a team with a balanced roster.

That said MDA is I think doing a very good job with a limited roster.

You can say he is not a good coach but there is so much going on with this team its easy to take things for granted.
e
Two rookies, 22 year old SF, made Felton barely a starter in Charlotte to near allstar and has coached Amare thus far to performing as a top 3 MVP candidate.

We all want them to do better but thats a pretty good job done after 50 games so far!