TMS wrote:a player that put up these kinds of statlines doesn't need to be "broken down" & made into a better player... he just needs to be given consistent opportunity to play the game he already knows how to play at a high level.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/gamelog?playerId=3455&year=2010

He just needs to learn how to play within the system and do the little things off of the ball.
In the beginning of the season his play reminded me of some nut in a pick-up game of 21,
just launching up everything that you know doesn't have a prayer of going in as soon as
it leaves his hands.

nyshakespeare wrote:

TMS wrote:a player that put up these kinds of statlines doesn't need to be "broken down" & made into a better player... he just needs to be given consistent opportunity to play the game he already knows how to play at a high level.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/gamelog?playerId=3455&year=2010

He just needs to learn how to play within the system and do the little things off of the ball.
In the beginning of the season his play reminded me of some nut in a pick-up game of 21,
just launching up everything that you know doesn't have a prayer of going in as soon as
it leaves his hands.

agreed early on he didn't look comfortable w/his role... seemed like that affected a lot of other guys on this team to begin the season not just AR... there was a ton of iso play going on, very little team basketball, the team looked completely unprepared to start the season it wasn't just AR we saw this from... we got off to a crappy start last year as well if u remember.

take a look at the way Timo started off the season, he struggled bigtime as well but MDA stuck with him well past the 3-8 stretch... last night i heard MDA talk about how u can't just grasp at straws when your team is struggling to explain why Mozgov found himself relegated to the bench after our poor start but u can clearly see that wasn't the case with him:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/gamelog?playerId=4298

IMHO when u just traded your best Allstar player to acquire a young 21 yo who has already proven he can put up the type of statlines that AR was able to do in years past, i think he warrants a longer leash than some free agent rookie pickup might, but that's just my point of view as a fan of this team... if this is a question of AR just having a pisspoor attitude during practice & getting on MDA's bad side, then i guess it is what it is... hopefully MDA & AR can patch things up somehow & we can start focusing on trying to get this guy involved in the system so we don't end up wasting another one of our assets.

nixluva wrote:

nyshakespeare wrote:

TMS wrote:a player that put up these kinds of statlines doesn't need to be "broken down" & made into a better player... he just needs to be given consistent opportunity to play the game he already knows how to play at a high level.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/gamelog?playerId=3455&year=2010

He just needs to learn how to play within the system and do the little things off of the ball.
In the beginning of the season his play reminded me of some nut in a pick-up game of 21,
just launching up everything that you know doesn't have a prayer of going in as soon as
it leaves his hands.

YUP! That's it in a nutshell. AR has talent and at times in a wild and unorganized manner a talent can put up numbers, but that has nothing to do with playing winning BB or fitting into a team concept. This is what AR had a problem doing. You could see he had no idea how to fit into an organized system. All the coaching staff wanted AR to do was calm down and play within himself. He kept trying to do too much and failed miserably.

What I liked about last night was he stayed calm and didn't try to do too much. As he gains a comfort level then he can do more, but just take it in stages.

lol @ the meaningless cliche's... what the hell does "he didn't know how to play winning basketball" even mean? so scoring 17 pts on 6 of 7 shooting in 26 minutes to help his team beat the Phoenix Suns last year is "not knowing how to play winning basketball"? when he helped a much inferior team beat the Boston Celtics by scoring 18 pts & grabbing 9 rebounds in 24 minutes last year, or when he went 15 & 11 while grabbing 7 offensive boards, 2 blocked shots & 3 steals vs the Blazers last year in a game they won, was that all also him "not knowing how to play winning basketball"?

NYKBocker wrote:

tkf wrote:

Nalod wrote:
My hope with AR is that we keep him and his potential is realized. That would be fun.

My hope is that coachs have broken him down and rebuilding him into a better player. If he is sulking then he ruins his career.

He is very athletic and he needs to slow it down and let the game come to him. Less mistakes and get into the flow.

AR needs to start from square one... Scoring will come. He should establish an identity, and he can easily do that.. Come in and be a rebounding and shot blocking monster.. in 10-15 mpg he can easily scoop up 6-10 boards and block a few shots.. do that and he will see increased playing time and his confidence will grow.. then he can build off of that. I like this kid...

Instead of trying to be the next Odom, he should look at some old Pistons tapes and watch how Rodman and Salley played and just mimic them. He can potentially be a defensive and rebounding jumping jack.