orangeblobman wrote:

Nalod wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

TMS wrote:let's nuke em

No way they don't have oil money and Haliburton has no use for mummies and pyramids. Otherwise we would have declared them islamic terrorists about 5 years ago.

The US cares about the price/availability of oil--it's a predominant factor in foreign policy. It has the ability to shake our economy(higher oil prices) at a time we dont need a tremor. People might say well this is just in Egypt--nope--it's a chain reaction that effects all.

True indeed. And a financial turmoil only benefits those that seek to destroy than build. Need money to build hospitals, schools and infrastructure to grow food and manufacture goods!

Violence is never good, it's a negative action. Money is a positive endeavor. Say what you want about the drawbacks of 'making money', it's still an overwhelmingly positive medium. It's a great equalizing abstraction that all mankind can take part in and focus their energies towards.

Violence destroys and wastes human energy on the negative, on death, as opposed to peaceful and productive interaction centered around cash money.

What's happening in Egypt is reckless, it's irresponsible, it's negative. And that's a damned shame.

The problem is money is NOT a great equalizer for a large amount of the world's population. There are many people in the world who not have access to compete economically. Money is power, power is not always used wisely. I'm mostly a pacifist but it's a rarity for a non-democratic government to give up power without a struggle.

OldFan wrote:

orangeblobman wrote:

Nalod wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

TMS wrote:let's nuke em

No way they don't have oil money and Haliburton has no use for mummies and pyramids. Otherwise we would have declared them islamic terrorists about 5 years ago.

The US cares about the price/availability of oil--it's a predominant factor in foreign policy. It has the ability to shake our economy(higher oil prices) at a time we dont need a tremor. People might say well this is just in Egypt--nope--it's a chain reaction that effects all.

True indeed. And a financial turmoil only benefits those that seek to destroy than build. Need money to build hospitals, schools and infrastructure to grow food and manufacture goods!

Violence is never good, it's a negative action. Money is a positive endeavor. Say what you want about the drawbacks of 'making money', it's still an overwhelmingly positive medium. It's a great equalizing abstraction that all mankind can take part in and focus their energies towards.

Violence destroys and wastes human energy on the negative, on death, as opposed to peaceful and productive interaction centered around cash money.

What's happening in Egypt is reckless, it's irresponsible, it's negative. And that's a damned shame.

The problem is money is NOT a great equalizer for a large amount of the world's population. There are many people in the world who not have access to compete economically. Money is power, power is not always used wisely. I'm mostly a pacifist but it's a rarity for a non-democratic government to give up power without a struggle.

What I meant by equalizer, and I apologize for not being clear enough, is that it's an idea that everyone has access to. The idea of 'money' is something everyone can take part in.

Everyone has access to compete economically. Everyone also earns what they are worth. Competing economically is an idea, it's something you just Do, it's not something you need permission to do.

The fact is that some people are worse at it than others.

Someone like our own BRIGGS is very competent at directing his energies towards this goal, towards money as an idea.

Overall, it's a positive medium for human interaction, the best one we have, as a human race, thought up so far.

Nalod wrote:We don't live for money but we need money to live...........

Exactly it. ;)

We live for the things money enables us to do.

orangeblobman wrote:

OldFan wrote:

orangeblobman wrote:

Nalod wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

TMS wrote:let's nuke em

No way they don't have oil money and Haliburton has no use for mummies and pyramids. Otherwise we would have declared them islamic terrorists about 5 years ago.

The US cares about the price/availability of oil--it's a predominant factor in foreign policy. It has the ability to shake our economy(higher oil prices) at a time we dont need a tremor. People might say well this is just in Egypt--nope--it's a chain reaction that effects all.

True indeed. And a financial turmoil only benefits those that seek to destroy than build. Need money to build hospitals, schools and infrastructure to grow food and manufacture goods!

Violence is never good, it's a negative action. Money is a positive endeavor. Say what you want about the drawbacks of 'making money', it's still an overwhelmingly positive medium. It's a great equalizing abstraction that all mankind can take part in and focus their energies towards.

Violence destroys and wastes human energy on the negative, on death, as opposed to peaceful and productive interaction centered around cash money.

What's happening in Egypt is reckless, it's irresponsible, it's negative. And that's a damned shame.

The problem is money is NOT a great equalizer for a large amount of the world's population. There are many people in the world who not have access to compete economically. Money is power, power is not always used wisely. I'm mostly a pacifist but it's a rarity for a non-democratic government to give up power without a struggle.

What I meant by equalizer, and I apologize for not being clear enough, is that it's an idea that everyone has access to. The idea of 'money' is something everyone can take part in.

Everyone has access to compete economically. Everyone also earns what they are worth. Competing economically is an idea, it's something you just Do, it's not something you need permission to do.

The fact is that some people are worse at it than others.

Someone like our own BRIGGS is very competent at directing his energies towards this goal, towards money as an idea.

Overall, it's a positive medium for human interaction, the best one we have, as a human race, thought up so far.

I suggest you actually visit some of these countries and experience the condition people live in before you expouse theories like this. This whole notion that people have equal opportunity driven by free markets etc is complete unadultarated horse****. And before you respond think about how some fisherman's kid growing up in Haiti had the same opportunites as a someone growing up as a Rockefeller.

BRIGGS wrote:Just an OT to the OT but the president of Egypt looks 30 years younger than he is. I never knew he was 82 looks 50.

He must be a runner.

babyKnicks wrote:Wow. That's a ton of aljeezra links in one post. I'll expect the Feds to ask for contact information within the week.

Just saying. That's the most I've seen.

lmao. this guy, man. hey dr alpheus, whatchu beez about, really??

DrAlphaeus wrote:

orangeblobman wrote:

babyKnicks wrote:Wow. That's a ton of aljeezra links in one post. I'll expect the Feds to ask for contact information within the week.

Just saying. That's the most I've seen.

lmao. this guy, man. hey dr alpheus, whatchu beez about, really??

Knowledge.

lol. all right.

babyKnicks wrote:Wow. That's a ton of aljeezra links in one post. I'll expect the Feds to ask for contact information within the week.

Just saying. That's the most I've seen.

ridiculous post.

al jazeera is a legit news organization that has done a tremendous job of covering both the egyptian demonstrations and was vital in covering the tunisia revolution which pretty much got zero coverage by u.s. corporate news...

which btw, has done a terrible job in many ways in some of their coverage from beltway pundits...

I actually found babyKnicks post funny. I'm more worried about the FCC tracking me down for bootleg Knicks broadcasts than I am for reading AlJazeera though. They probably already keep track of me for being part of a Trotskyist study group in college.

But these days I keep my brain soft and doughy with Jersey Shore, Hollywood gossip, the Alba thread and of course, Melo trade rumors. But you know, every now and then you have to stick your head out and look around, especially when people abroad are risking their lives to have what we piss away over here.

DrAlphaeus wrote:

orangeblobman wrote:

babyKnicks wrote:Wow. That's a ton of aljeezra links in one post. I'll expect the Feds to ask for contact information within the week.

Just saying. That's the most I've seen.

lmao. this guy, man. hey dr alpheus, whatchu beez about, really??

Knowledge.

These hundreds of thousands of people who are risking their lives to demonstrate for the removal of Mubarak--do you think they are going to stand down?
If anything this could get much worse, even ugly. I don't see where this ends. What happens if they are able to shut down the Suez Canal? That's where I would attack if I was the oppression. If they want worldwide attention--they will get it.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4020767,00.html

Israel’s Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu is quoted by the Jerusalem Post as saying, “The region in which we live is unstable. We see this at several points throughout the Middle East. I would say that there is a great island of instability in the geographic expanse in which we live. We hope that there will be quiet and security.”

There were riots in Algeria, and a man burned himself to death in an apparent echo of a suicide that began the Tunisian protests, according to Guardian.

The NY Times quotes leftist Beirut journalist Alfadel Chalak as follows:

“What we are witnessing is the collapse of the Arab state. Wherever we look across the Arab world, we see wars. We see civil wars, wars among ethnicities, wars between sects and ethnicities, wars among sects, and wars among authorities, sects, ethnicities and the poor. Wars among an Arab world that doesn’t have an elite or leadership that draws strategies and tactics that lead to salvation. Therefore, it looks as if we are going to witness for years and maybe decades to come a great deal of devastation, destruction and killing.”