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Moonangie
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1/28/2011  9:43 AM
fishmike wrote:all you had to do was watcht the 4th qtr last night. Gallo is not only clutch but he's one of the higher BB IQ players we have had in years. He just hit a HUGE 3. He just took made a crafty move to draw a foul. He just took it to the rack to get more FTs. Then when the defense collapses on him next possesion he drives, draws them in and dishes to a wide open Fields who buries the 3 in what was the biggest basket of the game. Thats what Gallo is and what he does and what he can do.

Not to mention the guy he guarded who had been hot of late was held scoreless. If you didnt look at the box score you might think Mike Miller (a guy I like alot) didnt even play

Does he need to be more consistant? YES

Chandler and Fields cant do what Gallo did last night. Gallo's problem is he seems to get up for these big games against the stars but coasts against some of these others.

If you want to bring in Melo because he's a shiney new "star" then trade Gallo/Chandler/Fields for him and throw in AR as well. A team w/ Amare/Felton/Melo is probably a 2nd round team for a few years. We will win a few playoff games and pretend each year we have a shot at the finals.

If your serious about winning a title or at least competing for one and Melo is a part of that you better get something for Chandler this deadline, at least picks or a decent young bigman. Then you sign Melo in the offseason and you keep Fields and Gallo

Word! Can I get a "Hallelujah" from the choir? This is the best path forward for us. I have a sneaking suspicion that Melo wants ths plan as well. *Bleep* the extension. Mofo wants a chip or three. Can't trade all our good stuff to get him and have no more cap flexibility.

Gallo and Fields stay in the fold. Chandler for a pick or a big, hopefully someplace he wants to re-up.

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1/28/2011  9:53 AM
Forget the Nuggest and forget Melo. We score at a rate as high as anyone on this team the only time we really run into problems is against bigger teams.

It's obvious you don't give up both of these guys. Chandler and AR fine, but again how many big shots has Gallo hit for this team in the fourth. When the point guards and everyone else makes the effort to get him the ball he produces. He is young and he does the one thing Melo does well and thats get to the line.

Analyze Melo's game and you will see a lot of garbage points.

Again Fields and Gallo > Melo.

Look for Perkins, Big Baby, Jordan, Humpries and a backup point guard. We have three very good wings already. You can continue to find plenty more. Outside of Lebron and Durant they aren't real difference makers.

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1/28/2011  9:58 AM
We still need Melo. Not to take a dump on a huge win (I was there...it was incredible), but they didn't have Bosh and LeBron had a terrible game. True, we played good D, but Chandler was horrible again and Felton is still regressing offensively, even though he hit those clutch FT's at the end.

Gallo+Chandler IS too much. But we still need Melo. Gallo is really showing me something. I think something clicked a couple weeks ago when it was obvious he dissapeared in 2nd halves. Amar'e looks to be making an effort to find him more. I like what he's been doing the last week or so.

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1/28/2011  9:59 AM
MS wrote:Forget the Nuggest and forget Melo. We score at a rate as high as anyone on this team the only time we really run into problems is against bigger teams.

It's obvious you don't give up both of these guys. Chandler and AR fine, but again how many big shots has Gallo hit for this team in the fourth. When the point guards and everyone else makes the effort to get him the ball he produces. He is young and he does the one thing Melo does well and thats get to the line.

Analyze Melo's game and you will see a lot of garbage points.

Again Fields and Gallo > Melo.

Look for Perkins, Big Baby, Jordan, Humpries and a backup point guard. We have three very good wings already. You can continue to find plenty more. Outside of Lebron and Durant they aren't real difference makers.

Yes, but Fields + Gallo + Melo > just Fields and Gallo. We can have our cake and eat it, too...

...if Melo knows what's important for his career (i.e., chips + legacy > cash). He gettin' paid either way. Don't need mo chedda than he can spend in three lifetimes. Bling is only fashionable when you're in the public eye. After all that, it's just rocks for you and yo' lady to admire. Same for the cars and mansions. Can't take that shyte with you when you gone.

Chips and legacy? Those last forever.

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1/28/2011  10:01 AM
MSG3 wrote:We still need Melo. Not to take a dump on a huge win (I was there...it was incredible), but they didn't have Bosh and LeBron had a terrible game. True, we played good D, but Chandler was horrible again and Felton is still regressing offensively, even though he hit those clutch FT's at the end.

Gallo+Chandler IS too much. But we still need Melo. Gallo is really showing me something. I think something clicked a couple weeks ago when it was obvious he dissapeared in 2nd halves. Amar'e looks to be making an effort to find him more. I like what he's been doing the last week or so.

We shot horribly the first three quarters. At one point we were like 5/25 from the arc. We won because we played outstanding D on Lebron and kept to our game plan. We slowed the game down to prevent them from crushing us. It was a playoff contest. We lose Gallo, it'd be a HUGE hit to our playoff readiness.

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1/28/2011  10:10 AM
The problem with this duo is that never seem to play well on the same night. One is usually hot while the other is cold. I was impressed with Danilo's D on James last night. LeBron still got his points, but he had to work hard for them and he didn't really impede Danilo much. Wilson had an off night, but he still hustled. Wade just blew passed him and the rest of the team though. When he's on, Wade has looked better than James to me.
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1/28/2011  3:00 PM
Moonangie wrote:
MSG3 wrote:We still need Melo. Not to take a dump on a huge win (I was there...it was incredible), but they didn't have Bosh and LeBron had a terrible game. True, we played good D, but Chandler was horrible again and Felton is still regressing offensively, even though he hit those clutch FT's at the end.

Gallo+Chandler IS too much. But we still need Melo. Gallo is really showing me something. I think something clicked a couple weeks ago when it was obvious he dissapeared in 2nd halves. Amar'e looks to be making an effort to find him more. I like what he's been doing the last week or so.

We shot horribly the first three quarters. At one point we were like 5/25 from the arc. We won because we played outstanding D on Lebron and kept to our game plan. We slowed the game down to prevent them from crushing us. It was a playoff contest. We lose Gallo, it'd be a HUGE hit to our playoff readiness.

Gallo had a nice 4th quarter & made some huge shots but i think u guys are seriously underplaying Melo's impact on a team if u think trading Gallo for him would degrade our playoff readiness in any way shape or form... this is a guy who's been able to carry a team in crunchtime his entire career... Gallo's got bigshot making ability but he's not consistent with it... i like the defense he brings & his unselfish play, but Melo is a threat to take over a game every single game he plays, not just once in a while & not just 1 quarter out of every game... having those guys play together would be great, but i don't let Gallo stand in my way of getting Melo to NY.

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1/28/2011  3:13 PM
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GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Gallo should not be traded. He must set up as the second option. When he has the ball good things happen

Yes sir....

Gallo is gonna avg 25 anywhere else

More like 50. I see him averaging like Oscar Robertson numbers... yeah, that's it, he's the 1st coming of the Wilt/Big O monster beast.... 50 points, 20 rebounds, 15 assists.... I can see it now....

This c_r_a_p is bordering on the DLee manlove shown randomly on this board. And Gallo didn't average 25 before this because he's just a young, developing stud, right?

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1/28/2011  3:49 PM
MSG3 wrote:We still need Melo. Not to take a dump on a huge win (I was there...it was incredible), but they didn't have Bosh and LeBron had a terrible game. True, we played good D, but Chandler was horrible again and Felton is still regressing offensively, even though he hit those clutch FT's at the end.

Gallo+Chandler IS too much. But we still need Melo. Gallo is really showing me something. I think something clicked a couple weeks ago when it was obvious he dissapeared in 2nd halves. Amar'e looks to be making an effort to find him more. I like what he's been doing the last week or so.

you just said it... we have depth, they dont, and that depth is why we won. So Lebron had a bad day. Chandler and Felton (our #2 and #3 scoring options) combined for 4-20. The difference was we had Gallo and Fields, two guys talented enough to step up and make big things happen when the other guys couldnt. Joel Anthony, Mario Chalmers, Jones, Juwan Howard... those guys arent good enough to do what Gallo and Fields did.

Melo would be nice but we dont NEED him. We NEED more bigs, and we NEED to keep our depth, Melo or not, because its the strength of this team. Easy

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1/28/2011  3:54 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/28/2011  3:59 PM
TMS wrote:
Moonangie wrote:
MSG3 wrote:We still need Melo. Not to take a dump on a huge win (I was there...it was incredible), but they didn't have Bosh and LeBron had a terrible game. True, we played good D, but Chandler was horrible again and Felton is still regressing offensively, even though he hit those clutch FT's at the end.

Gallo+Chandler IS too much. But we still need Melo. Gallo is really showing me something. I think something clicked a couple weeks ago when it was obvious he dissapeared in 2nd halves. Amar'e looks to be making an effort to find him more. I like what he's been doing the last week or so.

We shot horribly the first three quarters. At one point we were like 5/25 from the arc. We won because we played outstanding D on Lebron and kept to our game plan. We slowed the game down to prevent them from crushing us. It was a playoff contest. We lose Gallo, it'd be a HUGE hit to our playoff readiness.

Gallo had a nice 4th quarter & made some huge shots but i think u guys are seriously underplaying Melo's impact on a team if u think trading Gallo for him would degrade our playoff readiness in any way shape or form... this is a guy who's been able to carry a team in crunchtime his entire career... Gallo's got bigshot making ability but he's not consistent with it... i like the defense he brings & his unselfish play, but Melo is a threat to take over a game every single game he plays, not just once in a while & not just 1 quarter out of every game... having those guys play together would be great, but i don't let Gallo stand in my way of getting Melo to NY.

I agree with you: If it's give up Gallo or forget about Melo, I'd consider it as the centerpiece of the trade. What I meant is that having them BOTH is far better than just Melo, and our playoff readiness would suffer if we only had Melo (i.e., in contrast to a fuller roster).

Melo wants a chip? Come as a FA so we keep Gallo and Fields. Chandler's gotta go either way, so hopefully Donnie Walnuts works out a solid trade for him that gets us a serviceable big or a backup PG.

jrodmc wrote:
umynot wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Gallo should not be traded. He must set up as the second option. When he has the ball good things happen

Yes sir....

Gallo is gonna avg 25 anywhere else

More like 50. I see him averaging like Oscar Robertson numbers... yeah, that's it, he's the 1st coming of the Wilt/Big O monster beast.... 50 points, 20 rebounds, 15 assists.... I can see it now....

This c_r_a_p is bordering on the DLee manlove shown randomly on this board. And Gallo didn't average 25 before this because he's just a young, developing stud, right?


Another Gallo hater, eh?

Gallo's nowhere near his ceiling, he works hard, continually improves his game and is a major contributor to this team offensively and defensively. Whatever about your silly Oscar comparisons. Gallo is a stone-cold playa: He missed everything the first three quarters, yet hit HUGE shots in the fourth to put the game away. He gets to the stripe consistently where he drops the rock at 88%. He is 6'11". He demands to cover the best offensive player on the other team EVERY game. He has a ginormous heart, a will to win, and a desire to be in New York. He represents the Knicks as well as anyone, and both Amare and Melo think he's the bomb.

So don't play ya'self, sucka.

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1/28/2011  4:11 PM

Melo must be at odds with himself because we keep getting mixed signals via media over "sources" and what he says.

He sees knicks as desirable but he wants his money too.

Walsh is no fool (isiah) and unless Dolan is all over him to get Melo I trust he'll do what he thinks is best.

Which is usually better than what fans can come up with.

This taste of being relevant is and has been fun. ONe half a season is not a reason to get all impatient and go for it now. We are not that close. A melo trade this season COULD remove some key parts and we actually take as step backwards.

I am not afraid of that. Nor being patient and let Walsh work the assets he has and make moves to improve.

AMare has been great but the rush to "WIN NOW" while he is still MVP like is tempting but not our best path. I see the window is still open for 3 seasons.

In Donnie we trust.

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1/28/2011  4:41 PM
Moonangie wrote:
TMS wrote:
Moonangie wrote:
MSG3 wrote:We still need Melo. Not to take a dump on a huge win (I was there...it was incredible), but they didn't have Bosh and LeBron had a terrible game. True, we played good D, but Chandler was horrible again and Felton is still regressing offensively, even though he hit those clutch FT's at the end.

Gallo+Chandler IS too much. But we still need Melo. Gallo is really showing me something. I think something clicked a couple weeks ago when it was obvious he dissapeared in 2nd halves. Amar'e looks to be making an effort to find him more. I like what he's been doing the last week or so.

We shot horribly the first three quarters. At one point we were like 5/25 from the arc. We won because we played outstanding D on Lebron and kept to our game plan. We slowed the game down to prevent them from crushing us. It was a playoff contest. We lose Gallo, it'd be a HUGE hit to our playoff readiness.

Gallo had a nice 4th quarter & made some huge shots but i think u guys are seriously underplaying Melo's impact on a team if u think trading Gallo for him would degrade our playoff readiness in any way shape or form... this is a guy who's been able to carry a team in crunchtime his entire career... Gallo's got bigshot making ability but he's not consistent with it... i like the defense he brings & his unselfish play, but Melo is a threat to take over a game every single game he plays, not just once in a while & not just 1 quarter out of every game... having those guys play together would be great, but i don't let Gallo stand in my way of getting Melo to NY.

I agree with you: If it's give up Gallo or forget about Melo, I'd consider it as the centerpiece of the trade. What I meant is that having them BOTH is far better than just Melo, and our playoff readiness would suffer if we only had Melo (i.e., in contrast to a fuller roster).

Melo wants a chip? Come as a FA so we keep Gallo and Fields. Chandler's gotta go either way, so hopefully Donnie Walnuts works out a solid trade for him that gets us a serviceable big or a backup PG.

if we can get Melo while keeping Gallo & Fields i'll be ecstatic... i dunno if DEN will want Wilson in any trade because of his contract situation, so it might take Gallo to get him here to NY... if it comes down to having to give up Gallo this year to get Melo, i don't let that stop me from making a trade for him... depending on the package we're giving up i think there's still value to be gained in trading for Melo now rather than waiting to sign him as a FA... as for Wilson, we can always use him in a S&T deal this summer to try & upgrade other areas if we need to... personally speaking my main focus right now is on getting Melo to NY while keeping Fields... i think if we can achieve that, we're in great shape... anything else would be gravy.

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