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AnubisADL
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1/21/2011  2:52 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/21/2011  2:53 PM
rp wrote:
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Bippity10 wrote:People can't get out of the high school mindset that everytime a guy goes to the bench it is a demotion. D'Antoni said nothing of Gallo playing better or being a better player then Wilson. He said he was bringing Wilson off the bench because "he brings more firepower" and that it may shake Gallo's confidence whereas Wilson will not be affected.

The sixth man role IS AS IMPORTANT as any of the starting roles. This is why the championship San Antonio Spurs had no problem moving Ginobli to sixth man role in 06-07 and 07-08. Now did they make this move because they wanted to balance their team and have a great player provide energy and lead the second unit? Or did they make this move because Popovich was a stupid, stupid coach that had a silly love affair with Bruce Bowen and Michael Finley?

SMH. So D'Antoni babies Gallo and lets Randolph rot on the bench.

This is exactly how coaches lose the respect of players.

Unconfirmed quote there Anubis :)

Harrington already alluded to D'Antoni's favoritism earlier this season.

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1/21/2011  2:57 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
rp wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:People can't get out of the high school mindset that everytime a guy goes to the bench it is a demotion. D'Antoni said nothing of Gallo playing better or being a better player then Wilson. He said he was bringing Wilson off the bench because "he brings more firepower" and that it may shake Gallo's confidence whereas Wilson will not be affected.

The sixth man role IS AS IMPORTANT as any of the starting roles. This is why the championship San Antonio Spurs had no problem moving Ginobli to sixth man role in 06-07 and 07-08. Now did they make this move because they wanted to balance their team and have a great player provide energy and lead the second unit? Or did they make this move because Popovich was a stupid, stupid coach that had a silly love affair with Bruce Bowen and Michael Finley?

SMH. So D'Antoni babies Gallo and lets Randolph rot on the bench.

This is exactly how coaches lose the respect of players.

Unconfirmed quote there Anubis :)

Harrington already alluded to D'Antoni's favoritism earlier this season.

MDA has definitely been guilty of favoritism over his time in NY, but in this case i think moving Wilson back to the bench makes sense... he's already shown he can excel in that role & u don't know how it would effect Gallo's game.

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1/21/2011  3:01 PM
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rp wrote:
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Bippity10 wrote:People can't get out of the high school mindset that everytime a guy goes to the bench it is a demotion. D'Antoni said nothing of Gallo playing better or being a better player then Wilson. He said he was bringing Wilson off the bench because "he brings more firepower" and that it may shake Gallo's confidence whereas Wilson will not be affected.

The sixth man role IS AS IMPORTANT as any of the starting roles. This is why the championship San Antonio Spurs had no problem moving Ginobli to sixth man role in 06-07 and 07-08. Now did they make this move because they wanted to balance their team and have a great player provide energy and lead the second unit? Or did they make this move because Popovich was a stupid, stupid coach that had a silly love affair with Bruce Bowen and Michael Finley?

SMH. So D'Antoni babies Gallo and lets Randolph rot on the bench.

This is exactly how coaches lose the respect of players.

Unconfirmed quote there Anubis :)

Harrington already alluded to D'Antoni's favoritism earlier this season.

I respect your opinion about the coach and his style, but Al proved to us he was never a team player :)

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1/21/2011  3:05 PM
Bippity10 wrote:People can't get out of the high school mindset that everytime a guy goes to the bench it is a demotion. D'Antoni said nothing of Gallo playing better or being a better player then Wilson. He said he was bringing Wilson off the bench because "he brings more firepower" and that it may shake Gallo's confidence whereas Wilson will not be affected.

The sixth man role IS AS IMPORTANT as any of the starting roles. This is why the championship San Antonio Spurs had no problem moving Ginobli to sixth man role in 06-07 and 07-08. Now did they make this move because they wanted to balance their team and have a great player provide energy and lead the second unit? Or did they make this move because Popovich was a stupid, stupid coach that had a silly love affair with Bruce Bowen and Michael Finley?

Hell...they have a 6th Man Award. Kind of indicates that there is a significance to that role.

No such award for the 5th Starter, as far as I know.

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1/21/2011  3:12 PM
lumbardar wrote:Knicks changing lineup again: @RonnyTuriaf14 will start at C. @wilson_chandler back to bench. D'Antoni says he plans to stick with it.
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My oh my Chandler looks for a new agent and they bench him to devalue him. D'Antoni's boy is Gallo.

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1/21/2011  3:14 PM
Chandler has thrived in that role,
and he'll still get his regular minutes.
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1/21/2011  3:30 PM
when he announces he's gunna' start letting mosgov go in there and use his 6 fouls learning, i'll be excited...

turiaf is no more a center than chandler is a power forward... these are lateral adjustments we're making here people...

d'antoni is working my last nerve... seriously.

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1/21/2011  3:34 PM
NYKBocker wrote:Basically, what MDA sees is that we need a C for Amare to be effective. He also needs better spacing for Amare to operate. This move is basically geared to jump start Amare's efficiency. Wilson going to the bench also enhances our 2nd unit. Take out you Gallo hate...Can't you guys see that this is a basketball move and not about a love affair with Gallo?

Word. Chandler is perfect for 6th man in this system. And these guys are professionals. It's about minutes and crunch time action, not who steps on the court first.

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1/21/2011  3:34 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
rp wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:People can't get out of the high school mindset that everytime a guy goes to the bench it is a demotion. D'Antoni said nothing of Gallo playing better or being a better player then Wilson. He said he was bringing Wilson off the bench because "he brings more firepower" and that it may shake Gallo's confidence whereas Wilson will not be affected.

The sixth man role IS AS IMPORTANT as any of the starting roles. This is why the championship San Antonio Spurs had no problem moving Ginobli to sixth man role in 06-07 and 07-08. Now did they make this move because they wanted to balance their team and have a great player provide energy and lead the second unit? Or did they make this move because Popovich was a stupid, stupid coach that had a silly love affair with Bruce Bowen and Michael Finley?

SMH. So D'Antoni babies Gallo and lets Randolph rot on the bench.

This is exactly how coaches lose the respect of players.

Unconfirmed quote there Anubis :)

Harrington already alluded to D'Antoni's favoritism earlier this season.

Wow. I remember that quote from Al. I don't remember him mentioning MDA favoring Gallo but rather his teammates were jealous of Gallo because the Knicks org was pushing Gallo to the fans.

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1/21/2011  3:53 PM
rp wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
rp wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:People can't get out of the high school mindset that everytime a guy goes to the bench it is a demotion. D'Antoni said nothing of Gallo playing better or being a better player then Wilson. He said he was bringing Wilson off the bench because "he brings more firepower" and that it may shake Gallo's confidence whereas Wilson will not be affected.

The sixth man role IS AS IMPORTANT as any of the starting roles. This is why the championship San Antonio Spurs had no problem moving Ginobli to sixth man role in 06-07 and 07-08. Now did they make this move because they wanted to balance their team and have a great player provide energy and lead the second unit? Or did they make this move because Popovich was a stupid, stupid coach that had a silly love affair with Bruce Bowen and Michael Finley?

SMH. So D'Antoni babies Gallo and lets Randolph rot on the bench.

This is exactly how coaches lose the respect of players.

Unconfirmed quote there Anubis :)

Harrington already alluded to D'Antoni's favoritism earlier this season.

I respect your opinion about the coach and his style, but Al proved to us he was never a team player :)

1.) Al wanted to be in NY for life. Halfway through the season he learned that he wasn't going to be here. Meanwhile the front office was up front AND HONEST(which is what I want) about Gallo being part of our future. Al was jealous of this. However Al Harrington was the number one option on this team(over Gallo) and got every opportunity to pad his stats so that he could get the biggest contract possible. So other then us not wanting to keep him he really had no complaint. No one held him back at all.

2.) All coaches play favories

3.) What does this have to do with an AR? If anything you should be complaining about why Williams and Walker get minutes over him. Gallo isn't stealing his minutes. They are.

4.) If this was a bad move and the team loses respect you will see it. If this was a professional move with internal discussions and everyone understands it will also be visible. Tough to judge at this point, but I'm sure many of you will

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SupremeCommander wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
lumbardar wrote:Knicks changing lineup again: @RonnyTuriaf14 will start at C. @wilson_chandler back to bench. D'Antoni says he plans to stick with it.
23 minutes ago via we

Chandler kind of fell into a slump the last 4-5 games--and with MDA that is reason to terminate:) Thats fine Im glad he believes in playing the two bigs--it really doesnt matter who starts gallo or WC.

While I am inclined to agree with you:

The worst unit on a good team has been the Knicks' Raymond Felton, Landry Fields, Danilo Gallinari, Amar'e Stoudemire and Ronny Turiaf, which has been outscored by 6.5 points per 100 possessions in 108 minutes.

http://www.theknicksblog.com/2011/01/21/the-knicks-worst-5/

An interesting counterpoint to this I saw on Alan Hahn's twitter (posted by ib84) was that the Knicks were 5-1 in those games.

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1/21/2011  3:54 PM
xeo wrote:when he announces he's gunna' start letting mosgov go in there and use his 6 fouls learning, i'll be excited...

turiaf is no more a center than chandler is a power forward... these are lateral adjustments we're making here people...

d'antoni is working my last nerve... seriously.

If they are lateral moves, why does it bother you?

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1/21/2011  3:54 PM
You're crazy if you think this is special treatment for Gallinari. Chandler thrived in that 6th man role earlier this season and Gallinari drops the buckets. The coach is shaking things up to get us out of this 4 game slump.

MDA is a pro, this isn't your son's middle school rec league team.

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1/21/2011  4:00 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
rp wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:People can't get out of the high school mindset that everytime a guy goes to the bench it is a demotion. D'Antoni said nothing of Gallo playing better or being a better player then Wilson. He said he was bringing Wilson off the bench because "he brings more firepower" and that it may shake Gallo's confidence whereas Wilson will not be affected.

The sixth man role IS AS IMPORTANT as any of the starting roles. This is why the championship San Antonio Spurs had no problem moving Ginobli to sixth man role in 06-07 and 07-08. Now did they make this move because they wanted to balance their team and have a great player provide energy and lead the second unit? Or did they make this move because Popovich was a stupid, stupid coach that had a silly love affair with Bruce Bowen and Michael Finley?

SMH. So D'Antoni babies Gallo and lets Randolph rot on the bench.

This is exactly how coaches lose the respect of players.

Unconfirmed quote there Anubis :)

Harrington already alluded to D'Antoni's favoritism earlier this season.

Wow. I remember that quote from Al. I don't remember him mentioning MDA favoring Gallo but rather his teammates were jealous of Gallo because the Knicks org was pushing Gallo to the fans.

So he blamed that on D'Antoni???? Isn't that the marketing department pushing the obvious. Gallo was going to be here and Al and the rest of the team were not. It's a difficult situation but the whining is probably why Al is on 6th team and that 6th team is trying to move him as well.

As for D'Antoni's supposed favoritism of Gallo

FGA per game 2008
Al harrington 16.79
Danilo 4.46

FGA per game 2009
Al Harrington 14.31
GAllo 11.44

Al was the number one option. The teams marketing department was clearly pushing GAllo, but the coach was clearly giving Al the green light to score points and pad his stats. So much so, that now he is an albatross contract.

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1/21/2011  4:06 PM
^My "WOW" was directed at Anubis hating on Gallo again. I agree with your post.
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1/21/2011  4:20 PM
orangeblobman wrote:You're crazy if you think this is special treatment for Gallinari. Chandler thrived in that 6th man role earlier this season and Gallinari drops the buckets. The coach is shaking things up to get us out of this 4 game slump.

MDA is a pro, this isn't your son's middle school rec league team.

I honestly think that this is the perspective of some.

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1/21/2011  4:21 PM
NYKBocker wrote:^My "WOW" was directed at Anubis hating on Gallo again. I agree with your post.

Oops, sorry

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1/21/2011  4:30 PM
Bippity10 wrote:People can't get out of the high school mindset that everytime a guy goes to the bench it is a demotion. D'Antoni said nothing of Gallo playing better or being a better player then Wilson. He said he was bringing Wilson off the bench because "he brings more firepower" and that it may shake Gallo's confidence whereas Wilson will not be affected.

The sixth man role IS AS IMPORTANT as any of the starting roles. This is why the championship San Antonio Spurs had no problem moving Ginobli to sixth man role in 06-07 and 07-08. Now did they make this move because they wanted to balance their team and have a great player provide energy and lead the second unit? Or did they make this move because Popovich was a stupid, stupid coach that had a silly love affair with Bruce Bowen and Michael Finley?


"The sixth man role IS AS IMPORTANT as any of the starting roles."

So why not have Gallo come off the bench then?!?! Nooooo cuz D'Antoni has to coddle Gallo and play these stupid games. Gallo has to be accountable for his inconsistency at some point because the numbers won't lie.

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1/21/2011  4:31 PM
NYKBocker wrote:^My "WOW" was directed at Anubis hating on Gallo again. I agree with your post.

How am I hating on Gallo?

I dont agree with the lineup change. Last time I checked Gallo doesn't control who starts.

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1/21/2011  4:35 PM
SlimChin wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:People can't get out of the high school mindset that everytime a guy goes to the bench it is a demotion. D'Antoni said nothing of Gallo playing better or being a better player then Wilson. He said he was bringing Wilson off the bench because "he brings more firepower" and that it may shake Gallo's confidence whereas Wilson will not be affected.

The sixth man role IS AS IMPORTANT as any of the starting roles. This is why the championship San Antonio Spurs had no problem moving Ginobli to sixth man role in 06-07 and 07-08. Now did they make this move because they wanted to balance their team and have a great player provide energy and lead the second unit? Or did they make this move because Popovich was a stupid, stupid coach that had a silly love affair with Bruce Bowen and Michael Finley?


"The sixth man role IS AS IMPORTANT as any of the starting roles."

So why not have Gallo come off the bench then?!?!

Because Wilson is better at it. Next question

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