Vmart wrote:

crzymdups wrote:i was saying this last night. i think it is weighing on them. they have the internet - they see the reports the same way we do.

i think it's going to lead to a spiral. i see the team falling back under .500 in the next few weeks. something is off.

i wonder if some of the players feel betrayed that amar'e is texting melo, telling him to come. that's got to be an insult to the guys who know they'll be leaving if melo comes. trust on a team is a tricky thing.

Not to forget to mention they see the reporters who report it and are always in their ears.

Not only that- but the players have friends on other teams and they all have agents who talk to them & to management - e.g. AR with his agent meeting with Walsh.

Its probably much worse than what's in the papers, and if they're not worried about being traded, they may be thinking - I can wait until Melo gets here. Help is on the way. i don't need to try hard.

franco12 wrote:

Vmart wrote:

crzymdups wrote:i was saying this last night. i think it is weighing on them. they have the internet - they see the reports the same way we do.

i think it's going to lead to a spiral. i see the team falling back under .500 in the next few weeks. something is off.

i wonder if some of the players feel betrayed that amar'e is texting melo, telling him to come. that's got to be an insult to the guys who know they'll be leaving if melo comes. trust on a team is a tricky thing.

Not to forget to mention they see the reporters who report it and are always in their ears.

Not only that- but the players have friends on other teams and they all have agents who talk to them & to management - e.g. AR with his agent meeting with Walsh.

Its probably much worse than what's in the papers, and if they're not worried about being traded, they may be thinking - I can wait until Melo gets here. Help is on the way. i don't need to try hard.

It's also possible that we are just not that great of a team unless Amear and Felton are consistently playing out of their heads, putting up 30/10 and 20/10 respectively. A task that is unsustainable in the long run. It's possible we are simply playing to our average.

franco12 wrote:

BlueSeats wrote:

franco12 wrote:

Vmart wrote:

crzymdups wrote:i was saying this last night. i think it is weighing on them. they have the internet - they see the reports the same way we do.

i think it's going to lead to a spiral. i see the team falling back under .500 in the next few weeks. something is off.

i wonder if some of the players feel betrayed that amar'e is texting melo, telling him to come. that's got to be an insult to the guys who know they'll be leaving if melo comes. trust on a team is a tricky thing.

Not to forget to mention they see the reporters who report it and are always in their ears.

Not only that- but the players have friends on other teams and they all have agents who talk to them & to management - e.g. AR with his agent meeting with Walsh.

Its probably much worse than what's in the papers, and if they're not worried about being traded, they may be thinking - I can wait until Melo gets here. Help is on the way. i don't need to try hard.

It's also possible that we are just not that great of a team unless Amear and Felton are consistently playing out of their heads, putting up 30/10 and 20/10 respectively. A task that is unsustainable in the long run. It's possible we are simply playing to our average.

No- I do agree that with this style of play, getting hot from outside and shooting lights out enables you to beat better teams (San Antonio), but the effort for the last several games has been piss poor. We're better than this last few.

Of course. But not as good as 13-1 either. We are not a seasoned team, it's going to be a series of spurts and staggers.

BlueSeats wrote:

franco12 wrote:

Vmart wrote:

crzymdups wrote:i was saying this last night. i think it is weighing on them. they have the internet - they see the reports the same way we do.

i think it's going to lead to a spiral. i see the team falling back under .500 in the next few weeks. something is off.

i wonder if some of the players feel betrayed that amar'e is texting melo, telling him to come. that's got to be an insult to the guys who know they'll be leaving if melo comes. trust on a team is a tricky thing.

Not to forget to mention they see the reporters who report it and are always in their ears.

Not only that- but the players have friends on other teams and they all have agents who talk to them & to management - e.g. AR with his agent meeting with Walsh.

Its probably much worse than what's in the papers, and if they're not worried about being traded, they may be thinking - I can wait until Melo gets here. Help is on the way. i don't need to try hard.

It's also possible that we are just not that great of a team unless Amear and Felton are consistently playing out of their heads, putting up 30/10 and 20/10 respectively. A task that is unsustainable in the long run. It's possible we are simply playing to our average.

man, that's a troubling sign if Stat and Ray have to put up those numbers every night to win games. if we are playing to our average, we're barely or maybe not even a .500 team. the knicks have definitely been overachieving thus far.

Killa4luv wrote:THis is BS. Trade or no trade, what does that have to do with playing the game?
This would be the lamest excuse ever for losing.

Have some compassion players are people too they are not just pieces of meat you could trade all willy nilly. Geeze, they only get 8 figure pay checks. How much should they have to put up with?

and I am also sick of it at this point.

Paladin55 wrote:It cannot help a player's performance in any way...

and I am also sick of it at this point.

The question wasn't about it helping, it was about it hurting it. Its professional sports and they are talking about a trade, big effing deal. Is someone's mother sick? Is someone's kid in the hospital? That could affect ur play. They are a bunch of pussies if this was affecting their play. They are mentally weak if this is their extra lame excuse.

Most of the trade talk wasn't even about the knicks players anyway. The serious talks didn't even involve NY players at all.

Regular working people who make a fraction of this have to worry about keeping their damn jobs or finding one. Thats pressure. With the amount of people in this country out of work and losing their homes, it is utterly unacceptable for this to even be a consideration.

It wouldn't be in any locker room I coached.

Killa4luv wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:It cannot help a player's performance in any way...

and I am also sick of it at this point.

The question wasn't about it helping, it was about it hurting it. Its professional sports and they are talking about a trade, big effing deal. Is someone's mother sick? Is someone's kid in the hospital? That could affect ur play. They are a bunch of pussies if this was affecting their play. They are mentally weak if this is their extra lame excuse.

Most of the trade talk wasn't even about the knicks players anyway. The serious talks didn't even involve NY players at all.

Regular working people who make a fraction of this have to worry about keeping their damn jobs or finding one. Thats pressure. With the amount of people in this country out of work and losing their homes, it is utterly unacceptable for this to even be a consideration.

It wouldn't be in any locker room I coached.

1)- My way of saying that it can't help, but might hurt...

2)- You would have little control over this if your were a coach, my friend.

So lets see, now. You are happy where you are living/working and your company- one which pays you to be creative- wants to relocate you, forcing you to leave your home and friends. And you say this would not affect you at your job?

...Yup.

BRIGGS wrote:C Anthony crp will ruin this season.

You didn't want LeCon, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh or Amar'e Stoudemire during the summer either. So is there any Star you do like?

Paladin55 wrote:

Killa4luv wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:It cannot help a player's performance in any way...

and I am also sick of it at this point.

The question wasn't about it helping, it was about it hurting it. Its professional sports and they are talking about a trade, big effing deal. Is someone's mother sick? Is someone's kid in the hospital? That could affect ur play. They are a bunch of pussies if this was affecting their play. They are mentally weak if this is their extra lame excuse.

Most of the trade talk wasn't even about the knicks players anyway. The serious talks didn't even involve NY players at all.

Regular working people who make a fraction of this have to worry about keeping their damn jobs or finding one. Thats pressure. With the amount of people in this country out of work and losing their homes, it is utterly unacceptable for this to even be a consideration.

It wouldn't be in any locker room I coached.

1)- My way of saying that it can't help, but might hurt...

2)- You would have little control over this if your were a coach, my friend.

So lets see, now. You are happy where you are living/working and your company- one which pays you to be creative- wants to relocate you, forcing you to leave your home and friends. And you say this would not affect you at your job?

...Yup.

Lets see now, I make more money than 99% of humanity to play a game. I'm in a different city every other night as a part of this job. I am treated like a rock star everywhere I go. Part of the reality of having one of the worlds greatest jobs is I may be traded to another city where I will enjoy the same ridiculous pay. At the same time, millions of regular people with regular lives hate their jobs, are underpaid or don't have a job and and are willing to do almost anything. Also some people have lost their homes AND jobs.

I take the trade talk in stride and remember that my money is guaranteed even if I break my leg, and I am extremely fortunate to be paid alot of money to play a game.

If I were a coach my players would be reminded often that they are fortunate to have the talents they have and the job that comes with it. They need to act like it and not be a bunch of ****ing pu$$ies.

I just was laid off from a job with the NY state Senate. I just lived this reality, and I wasn't being a baby about it. Elections up in the air, not knowing what the republicans would do if they gained power, would they hit the dems so hard that theyd be forced to lay people off? I've dealt with that possibility since the November Elections. 2 weeksa ago my worst fears were confirmed, the republicans forced Dems into a very tiny budget for staff and they gave us less time then we gave them to cut their staff. This is about losing ur job, not being relocated to live like a rock star someplace else. I took it in stride, as did the rest of the office. It is the nature of working in politics. U work for an elected he can be beaten and u lose ur job. Its the nature of professional sports too. And poor excuse to not play hard every night.