TMS wrote:

crzymdups wrote:felton has to initiate movement... to do that it would help if he were healthy enough to move well. a point guard standing still cannot make a lot of plays. guys get open through MOVING with the ball and then moving the ball to the open spot that is created by their movement.

felton is playing through an injury that limits his movement and a separate injury that limits his shooting. the idea that he should "play through it" or "pass more" is insulting. the dude is out there injured and trying.

it'd be nice if we had a backup point guard.

if you're going to complain about felton, at least be fair and complain that the dude is injured. don't complain that he's "not passing well" and somehow "the pick and roll isn't working anymore". that's bull****. he's playing hurt - other people need to step up and we have zero other playmakers on this team.

we need a guy like oj mayo or that carmelo dude. or a backup pg would be nice.

i said the pick & roll wasn't even being attempted, i didn't say it wasn't working anymore... watch the freakin' games & then come back & tell me they've even been TRYING to execute the PnR for the past 4 losses before u call me out for bull****.

as for the other stuff, i agree w/u we need another playmaker on this team... Melo would also give this team a much needed boost... & the entire team has been playing like horse**** for the past week... i'm not pegging this all on Ray Felton.

i'm saying they're not attempting it because ray is injured. sprained ankle isn't exactly conducive to exploding off the pick.

We got the spurs and the thunder coming up—it aint gonna be easy.

The Knicks need a 6'11 clone of Marcus Camby next to Amare. Period.

misterearl wrote:"I got 99 problems but a starting point ain't one"

The Knicks need a 6'11 clone of Marcus Camby next to Amare. Period.

If only we had a young 6'11" guy who had the athleticism of Camby...

we also need a backup point guard and a guy who can create his own shot from the wing (i like OJ Mayo).

TMS wrote:it's not just Ray... it's the whole team... there's zero movement w/o the ball other than Landry going in for possible offensive putbacks... it's become the Patrick Ewing style offense... dump the ball in to the big fella & get out of his way... Amare's struggled to get off his shots vs. teams crowding the paint, & tonight Hayes & Jordan Hill did a good job of making him work for every shot he got off... no one else on the team other than Toney Douglas even showed a pulse tonight.

this is exactly what I am seeing. it's the 3-8 basketball the Knicks played early in the season. Give to Amare and get out of the way.

I don't think I've seen 1 PnR the whole game or for a couple of games (albeit I have missed quarter and halves of games recently).

And since his explosion in both the San Antonio and PHO games, Chandler has been an average player at best. Rebounding has sucking, defense so-so. How many times do you have a mismatch against the other teams PG and you back the guy down to 5 feet from the rim and then pass out to a shooter on the 3point line?

martin wrote:

TMS wrote:it's not just Ray... it's the whole team... there's zero movement w/o the ball other than Landry going in for possible offensive putbacks... it's become the Patrick Ewing style offense... dump the ball in to the big fella & get out of his way... Amare's struggled to get off his shots vs. teams crowding the paint, & tonight Hayes & Jordan Hill did a good job of making him work for every shot he got off... no one else on the team other than Toney Douglas even showed a pulse tonight.

this is exactly what I am seeing. it's the 3-8 basketball the Knicks played early in the season. Give to Amare and get out of the way.

I don't think I've seen 1 PnR the whole game or for a couple of games (albeit I have missed quarter and halves of games recently).

And since his explosion in both the San Antonio and PHO games, Chandler has been an average player at best. Rebounding has sucking, defense so-so. How many times do you have a mismatch against the other teams PG and you back the guy down to 5 feet from the rim and then pass out to a shooter on the 3point line?

i've noticed the same thing about the backing the PG down into the paint & then passing out to a 3 pt shooter... Wilson & Gallo were doing that last night vs. Lowry... Lowry caught Wilson once w/the pull the chair out thing & Gallo passed up posting up a much smaller Lowry when he had 1 on 1 coverage & elected instead to pass the ball off to a teammate at the 3 pt arc... i just don't get it... these guys are relying way too much on the 3 pt shot to save their arses this season it seems... they forgot what made them such a tough team to deal with during their good stretch... the uptempo, movement w/o the ball, good crisp passing & working everything off the PnR to open up easy scoring opps for Amare to catch & score in the paint while in motion.