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1/20/2011  9:40 AM
Vmart wrote:Probably Melvin Ely is the big they are talking about.

even worse... Maybe we could drag Loren Woods or Keon Clark out of the pub
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1/20/2011  9:43 AM
fishmike wrote:
Vmart wrote:Probably Melvin Ely is the big they are talking about.

even worse... Maybe we could drag Loren Woods or Keon Clark out of the pub

I'm not to thrilled about that too, but for me its to get Melo here and that is where Knicks take the next step towards the ring.

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1/20/2011  9:45 AM
Can we keep Fields out of the deal?
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1/20/2011  9:49 AM
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fishmike wrote:
Vmart wrote:Probably Melvin Ely is the big they are talking about.

even worse... Maybe we could drag Loren Woods or Keon Clark out of the pub

I'm not to thrilled about that too, but for me its to get Melo here and that is where Knicks take the next step towards the ring.

Knicks need quality size. MDA (who never plays centers) pushed Mosgov out there too soon desperate to get some size in the rotation but he's simply not ready.

If the Knicks get Melo is a wasted jizz if they dont get quality size back, or keep assets to aquire quality size. The only big worth a fart in the wind on that team is Nene, and he should be a big target. I've been very open to trading our young players for size thats part of the long term picture. At 28 a Nene/Amare frontcourt is can challenge any team in the league

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1/20/2011  9:50 AM
Vmart wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Vmart wrote:Probably Melvin Ely is the big they are talking about.

even worse... Maybe we could drag Loren Woods or Keon Clark out of the pub

I'm not to thrilled about that too, but for me its to get Melo here and that is where Knicks take the next step towards the ring.

Ely is a serviceable big who actually put up some ok numbers when Martin and Nene were out. He is a FA at the end of the year on a $1.2 mil contract. I would be willing to include Azu if it fits to get him and we get some leeway on including some 2nd rounders instead of that second 1st rounder they want.

Ely and Turiaf would make a decent defensive combo and allow Amare to move back to PF.

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1/20/2011  10:01 AM
I may be able to get over giving up Fields if we got Nene.
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1/20/2011  10:06 AM
VDesai wrote:I may be able to get over giving up Fields if we got Nene.

Definitely, Knicks become a balanced team by adding Nene.

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1/20/2011  10:08 AM
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Vmart wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Vmart wrote:Probably Melvin Ely is the big they are talking about.

even worse... Maybe we could drag Loren Woods or Keon Clark out of the pub

I'm not to thrilled about that too, but for me its to get Melo here and that is where Knicks take the next step towards the ring.

Ely is a serviceable big who actually put up some ok numbers when Martin and Nene were out. He is a FA at the end of the year on a $1.2 mil contract. I would be willing to include Azu if it fits to get him and we get some leeway on including some 2nd rounders instead of that second 1st rounder they want.

Ely and Turiaf would make a decent defensive combo and allow Amare to move back to PF.

now.. unlike some around here to cling to MDA being unable to use centers I will say this. MDA will play Amare at center or Chandler at PF before he plays a "servicable big."

Not interested in a servicable big. I want a talented big. Thats worth trading a young player. That fills a massive need

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1/20/2011  10:23 AM
KEEP FIELDS!!!
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1/20/2011  10:26 AM
fishmike wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Vmart wrote:Probably Melvin Ely is the big they are talking about.

even worse... Maybe we could drag Loren Woods or Keon Clark out of the pub

I'm not to thrilled about that too, but for me its to get Melo here and that is where Knicks take the next step towards the ring.

Ely is a serviceable big who actually put up some ok numbers when Martin and Nene were out. He is a FA at the end of the year on a $1.2 mil contract. I would be willing to include Azu if it fits to get him and we get some leeway on including some 2nd rounders instead of that second 1st rounder they want.

Ely and Turiaf would make a decent defensive combo and allow Amare to move back to PF.

now.. unlike some around here to cling to MDA being unable to use centers I will say this. MDA will play Amare at center or Chandler at PF before he plays a "servicable big."

Not interested in a servicable big. I want a talented big. Thats worth trading a young player. That fills a massive need

Good luck with that. MDA won't go for that, anything you put out there he won't go for unless its a PF with somewhat like a C size that plays like a SF. Only one that I can think of that fits that bill would be Blatche.

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1/20/2011  10:34 AM
Vmart wrote:
fishmike wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Vmart wrote:Probably Melvin Ely is the big they are talking about.

even worse... Maybe we could drag Loren Woods or Keon Clark out of the pub

I'm not to thrilled about that too, but for me its to get Melo here and that is where Knicks take the next step towards the ring.

Ely is a serviceable big who actually put up some ok numbers when Martin and Nene were out. He is a FA at the end of the year on a $1.2 mil contract. I would be willing to include Azu if it fits to get him and we get some leeway on including some 2nd rounders instead of that second 1st rounder they want.

Ely and Turiaf would make a decent defensive combo and allow Amare to move back to PF.

now.. unlike some around here to cling to MDA being unable to use centers I will say this. MDA will play Amare at center or Chandler at PF before he plays a "servicable big."

Not interested in a servicable big. I want a talented big. Thats worth trading a young player. That fills a massive need

Good luck with that. MDA won't go for that, anything you put out there he won't go for unless its a PF with somewhat like a C size that plays like a SF. Only one that I can think of that fits that bill would be Blatche.

Jefferies to a lesser-much lesser- degree.

Fish, he leans on Turiaf. He gave Moz a go. He tried guys like Shaq and I think Steven Hunter on PHX.

I think C is just not an important position here. In PHX he had Marion who gave C numbers from the SF. He doesn't have that option here.

Another guy that came to mind is Josh Smith, Vmart.

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1/20/2011  11:05 AM
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Allanfan20 wrote:Not a fan of this at all.

If it brings Nene I could live with it

Let's bring back Camby too. With Stat, Camby, and Nene and we can erase all the coulda, shoulda, woulda's surrounding the 2002 draft.
Let's get Artest for Frederick Weiss' rights, and get Rondo in here and we can really be a contender.
Ahhh.... hindsight...

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1/20/2011  11:06 AM
Vmart wrote:
fishmike wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Vmart wrote:Probably Melvin Ely is the big they are talking about.

even worse... Maybe we could drag Loren Woods or Keon Clark out of the pub

I'm not to thrilled about that too, but for me its to get Melo here and that is where Knicks take the next step towards the ring.

Ely is a serviceable big who actually put up some ok numbers when Martin and Nene were out. He is a FA at the end of the year on a $1.2 mil contract. I would be willing to include Azu if it fits to get him and we get some leeway on including some 2nd rounders instead of that second 1st rounder they want.

Ely and Turiaf would make a decent defensive combo and allow Amare to move back to PF.

now.. unlike some around here to cling to MDA being unable to use centers I will say this. MDA will play Amare at center or Chandler at PF before he plays a "servicable big."

Not interested in a servicable big. I want a talented big. Thats worth trading a young player. That fills a massive need

Good luck with that. MDA won't go for that, anything you put out there he won't go for unless its a PF with somewhat like a C size that plays like a SF. Only one that I can think of that fits that bill would be Blatche.

since your the #1 guy who clings to this please explain MDA's motive for starting Mosgov this year.

You say this over and over again but that doesnt make it true. Not a shred of evidence. Not one.

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1/20/2011  11:21 AM
fishmike wrote:
Vmart wrote:
fishmike wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Vmart wrote:Probably Melvin Ely is the big they are talking about.

even worse... Maybe we could drag Loren Woods or Keon Clark out of the pub

I'm not to thrilled about that too, but for me its to get Melo here and that is where Knicks take the next step towards the ring.

Ely is a serviceable big who actually put up some ok numbers when Martin and Nene were out. He is a FA at the end of the year on a $1.2 mil contract. I would be willing to include Azu if it fits to get him and we get some leeway on including some 2nd rounders instead of that second 1st rounder they want.

Ely and Turiaf would make a decent defensive combo and allow Amare to move back to PF.

now.. unlike some around here to cling to MDA being unable to use centers I will say this. MDA will play Amare at center or Chandler at PF before he plays a "servicable big."

Not interested in a servicable big. I want a talented big. Thats worth trading a young player. That fills a massive need

Good luck with that. MDA won't go for that, anything you put out there he won't go for unless its a PF with somewhat like a C size that plays like a SF. Only one that I can think of that fits that bill would be Blatche.

since your the #1 guy who clings to this please explain MDA's motive for starting Mosgov this year.

You say this over and over again but that doesnt make it true. Not a shred of evidence. Not one.

Mosgov was playing good ball in the preseason but when the seaons started he showed hands of stone and a love to foul. I was curious why TM was not on any other NBA teams radar...now I know.

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1/20/2011  11:30 AM
fishmike wrote:
Vmart wrote:
fishmike wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Vmart wrote:Probably Melvin Ely is the big they are talking about.

even worse... Maybe we could drag Loren Woods or Keon Clark out of the pub

I'm not to thrilled about that too, but for me its to get Melo here and that is where Knicks take the next step towards the ring.

Ely is a serviceable big who actually put up some ok numbers when Martin and Nene were out. He is a FA at the end of the year on a $1.2 mil contract. I would be willing to include Azu if it fits to get him and we get some leeway on including some 2nd rounders instead of that second 1st rounder they want.

Ely and Turiaf would make a decent defensive combo and allow Amare to move back to PF.

now.. unlike some around here to cling to MDA being unable to use centers I will say this. MDA will play Amare at center or Chandler at PF before he plays a "servicable big."

Not interested in a servicable big. I want a talented big. Thats worth trading a young player. That fills a massive need

Good luck with that. MDA won't go for that, anything you put out there he won't go for unless its a PF with somewhat like a C size that plays like a SF. Only one that I can think of that fits that bill would be Blatche.

since your the #1 guy who clings to this please explain MDA's motive for starting Mosgov this year.

You say this over and over again but that doesnt make it true. Not a shred of evidence. Not one.

Its like a kid with a new toy. He doesn't know what he has until he finds out all about it and then goes back to play with his favorite toys. In this case Amare was his favorite toy that he likes to play at center. You want evidence go look up his past legit centers that got major run and I don't mean 10 games either. MDA has never stuck with it for an entire season. Who ever you bring here will not get steady run its a fact he has to be the perfect system player. There is no adjustment on MDA's part to accommodate a legit center.

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1/20/2011  11:41 AM
babyKnicks wrote:Knicks go all in for nene and melo. 
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4r28lr7
Dantoni/Walsh bite the bullet rolling the dice and sends gallo and Chandler to the nuggets for melo and nene
Curry, AR (or first round traded for) additional first round walker and azubuike, mason and turiaf (salary match)

Knicks keep the 8 man rotation:
Nene
Amare
Melo
Fields (yep, we keep him)
Felton

Bench:
Timofey, walker, Douglas and Williams 

Immediate contenders. 

Walker gets traded but still plays a bench role for us? How's dat?

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1/20/2011  6:38 PM
For what it's worth, Brussard just said on Sportscenter that whether it's via trade or free agency, Melo will be a Knick. He also said that he's been told that while Melo really wants that extension, he's willing to not get it if it means getting to the Knicks via free agency.
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1/20/2011  7:36 PM
MSG3 wrote:For what it's worth, Brussard just said on Sportscenter that whether it's via trade or free agency, Melo will be a Knick. He also said that he's been told that while Melo really wants that extension, he's willing to not get it if it means getting to the Knicks via free agency.

The only one that truly knows that is Melo himself. I don't care what any athlete says, if it's not about the money it's pretty damn close.

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1/20/2011  7:41 PM
babyKnicks wrote:Knicks go all in for nene and melo. 
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4r28lr7
Dantoni/Walsh bite the bullet rolling the dice and sends gallo and Chandler to the nuggets for melo and nene
Curry, AR (or first round traded for) additional first round walker and azubuike, mason and turiaf (salary match)

Knicks keep the 8 man rotation:
Nene
Amare
Melo
Fields (yep, we keep him)
Felton

Bench:
Timofey, walker, Douglas and Williams 

Immediate contenders. 

That bench sucks. Walker and Williams are inconsistant at best, Moz is a no show right now and TD is just barely passable as a backup PG. But that starting 5 looks good so this may be the way to go. As long as we can acquire better role players in the coming years. Though I heard somewhere the MLE may be taken off the table, then we would be in a bind.

TKF on Melo ::....he is a punk, a jerk, a self absorbed out of shape, self aggrandizing, unprofessional, volume chucking coach killing playoff loser!!
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1/20/2011  7:47 PM
I would roll with that team in a heart beat.
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