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Has Anyone Noticed The Trend In Burnout?
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Uptown
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1/22/2011  3:09 PM
Amazing! First you guys complain about the offense looking like Sh!t when Felt and Stat go to the bench, now we complain that they are on the floor too much. We dont have any alternatives, and please stop with the Rautins, and Masons of the world.

I'm not the biggest MDA supporter either, but lets be fair, all coaches playe thier best players extended mins:

Lebron 38 mins
Wade 37 mins
D Rose 38 mins
Durant 39 mins
Westbrook 36 mins
D Williams 38 mins

etc. The list goes on and on. The burn out idea is an excuse, for the fact that we just aren't that talented.

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CrushAlot
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1/22/2011  3:12 PM
Uptown wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Vmart wrote:
Nalod wrote:I think its a combo.

Gotta make one appreciate Nash's MVPs a little more as he kept this pace up his whole time with MDA. The dude is amazing even with a bad back.

This is why a melo trade is tough. We need a deeper bench. Players not up to the standard will bring the result down. 8 man rotation is not enough for the speedball we play. Slow it down we are not effective.

This team is tired. Amare is getting cranky. We need Moz and AR to step it up.

Being banged up is part of the game and we are.

Forget the deeper bench if they can't hold their own. The Knicks are best when Amare is on the floor and when he is not the bench does nothing but pass the ball around the perimeter and jack up shots from the perimeter. Knicks need another star for the time when Amare goes to the bench, a player like Melo who seriously help whatever bench the Knicks have to be better. Why do you think Amare and Felton are getting long minutes because bench does nothing and they have to be rushed back into the game.


Look man, I appreciate your position. I wondering even with melo that our starters would even further outweigh our bench and MDA is gonna burn out Melo too.

His job is to win. Players get paid big to play big. If our bench falls behind then starters have to rally and it drains them. Yeah, I like melo. IN fact the poll shows a vast majority around here do.

You don't have to sell it. The question is burn out. Melo would be taking up like 3 bodies. Melo would be playing big minutes and have to carry a big load.

With Melo or without we are still two seasons away from contention. Team is not structured right. Melo is an upgrade no doubt but at what price? Im trying to think longer term.

Think the Heat were thinking long term when they emptied thier roster for the 3 Amigos? Actually, they were becasue you dont win championships in this league unless you have MVP calibre talent on your team. Get the stars first, worry about the other pieces later. We have an opportunity to get a star player now, an opportunity we may not have for another decade or so. Ignoring Melo, to worry about adding average players to the bench is short term in my opinion because it wont make us much better.

Speaking of burn out, lets take a look at the Heat big 3:

James 38 mins per
Wade 37 mins per
Bosh 36 mins per...and they only have the 2nd best record in the East....Fire coach Spo!

The Heat do a lot of things right. I love that they have Dexter Pittman playing every day in the d-league. They signed a lot of quality vets and have more balance and size in their line up even without Haslem than the Knicks. Look at the impact a guy like Joel Anthony has on some Heat games. The Spolestra often plays ten guys and not just in blow outs.
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
CrushAlot
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1/22/2011  3:15 PM
Uptown wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I have noticed it. I think it is interesting that the teams come out of camp and struggle until D'Antoni locks in on his core guys. I also wonder if some of it is the Knicks being scouted by other teams. Chuck Hayes said that they knew Amare was going to get the ball almost every Knick possession and he watched a lot of film on him to try to prevent him from doing what he wanted. The Knicks with Amare were a new phenomonon but teams are adjusting. I do think some of the core guys are wearing down from all of the minutes as well.


There are no secrets in the NBA. Each team is well scouted in the league, thats why it usually comnes down to who has the best players. Everybody knows that Utah runs the pick and roll, but with players like Stockton and Willimas running it, its hard to guard because these guys are elite players. Everyone knows the Lakers run the triangle offense, but when you have a guy like Kobe, it doesn't matter that you know its coming because you cant stop him.

D'Antoni has been called out by his peers for not scouting or making adjustments to things teams changed on their offense weeks before.
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
KNICKSdom
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1/22/2011  4:08 PM
Hey I'm burnout watching Knicks play sloppy and letting the game slip away. I don't know what it is, they are breaking down playing banged up with lots of minutes or it is time for a Melo shake up. I just want back to winning ways.
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1/22/2011  5:46 PM
Playing 38 minutes in Dantoni's system is like playing 46 minutes in any other system. The constant running and pushing the ball takes it's toll . Raymond needs help, Douglas is more of a backup 2 guard imo he's horrible running the offense.
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Has Anyone Noticed The Trend In Burnout?

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