TMS wrote:

VDesai wrote:I'm not really big on Walker, but Williams is a perfect fit here. I think Azubuike would be better than Walker.

i agree w/u... but Buike's gotta prove he can come back & be healthy for him to even be an option.

Of course- but I think a player like Azubuike who can spot up and defend works better in theory. Kind of a Raja Bell type. Walker is too erratic and doesn't add much defensively. He has upside, but I'm not sure how he fits into a rotation yet....

VDesai wrote:

TMS wrote:

VDesai wrote:I'm not really big on Walker, but Williams is a perfect fit here. I think Azubuike would be better than Walker.

i agree w/u... but Buike's gotta prove he can come back & be healthy for him to even be an option.

Of course- but I think a player like Azubuike who can spot up and defend works better in theory. Kind of a Raja Bell type. Walker is too erratic and doesn't add much defensively. He has upside, but I'm not sure how he fits into a rotation yet....

i'm definitely with u on that... Walker doesn't bring enough in other areas of his game to offset his horrible defense... i like him as a role player but Buike is a better player on both ends.

knicks1248 wrote:Cmon guy's bill does do a little of everything, he's maybe suspect on d, but he's no david lee.

he's more Tim Thomas... lackadaisical on defense but no jazz hands.

JohnWallace44 wrote:Walker bothers me. He's another guy that can be a great player on a losing team.

He comes in at 2 guard and makes a lot of positive plays, but he makes a lot of bad defensive plays and takes a lot of shots out of the offensive rhythm that lead to break outs for the opponent. He's the anti-Fields.

And that doesn't mean ending the year at 40% (which would meand shooting it at like 25% the rest of the year to bring down the current numbers). It means going 40% for the rest of the year.

misterearl wrote:"Only caveat to the above is if Shawne keeps shooting the way he's been, I reserve the right to reconsider, but I can't believe he will keep it up."

Hold up, Shawne Williams just hit another three

misterearl wrote:bernard - how many NBA games qualify as an extended period?

(in 21 games Mr Automatic is shooting 59 per cent, that is slightly over one quarter of an NBA season)

Shawne Williams will not suddenly hit an imaginary wall and instantly lose his shooting stroke. Williams had a mild slump after his fourth lights-out game and the unbelievers exclaimed, "yeah, it's about time he came back to the pack." Guess what happened? Shawne went nuts AGAIN. What if The Utah game is not an aberation?

Shawne Williams is one of the few players who, when he misses, it is a shock.

Hold up...

3pt shooting is a HUGE commodity--if anyone doesnt think so go take a look @ Jason Kapono's last contract. Hes not going top score 20 points a night but 12-13 off the bench avg with 46-48% 3 pt shooting--thats the MLE. Now offering him a 3 years 6mm contract now might entice a guy who was down and out--thats about the cost of his caphold.

I do believe what he's done is enough to prove he's a good shooter. A mediocre shooter wouldn't be capable of a streak like this. I don't think 56 attempts is enough to prove he's a great shooter though -- or even a very good one.

The guy came out of nowhere. No one was even talking about his 3-point stroke before he started knocking them all down. Just hard to imagine that he'll turn out to among the best shooters of all time (If Utah wasn't an aberration, he'd be far and away the best shooter ever) -- or even a consistent, top 10 NBA shooter. Lots of guys have stretches where they light it up and then they come back to earth. I remember Frye having a stretch like that.

I hope I'm wrong. But my sense is he'll prove himself to be merely a good shooter.

misterearl wrote:bernard - how many NBA games qualify as an extended period?

(in 21 games Mr Automatic is shooting 59 per cent, that is slightly over one quarter of an NBA season)

Shawne Williams will not suddenly hit an imaginary wall and instantly lose his shooting stroke. Williams had a mild slump after his fourth lights-out game and the unbelievers exclaimed, "yeah, it's about time he came back to the pack." Guess what happened? Shawne went nuts AGAIN. What if The Utah game is not an aberation?

Shawne Williams is one of the few players who, when he misses, it is a shock.

Hold up...

Landry is a good comparable. Looks to me like he'll just keep getting better. He's good at so many things, plays so hard and smart and does so many "little" things that help us win -- hand in the face of shooters, keeping balls alive on the boards, deflections, etc. Williams, on the other hand, contributes one key skill. Aside from his 3-point shooting, his offense has been pretty weak. And his defense has been ok, but not good enough to earn him playing time w/o the great shooting. It all comes down to whether he can continue to shoot it. We'll see. I hope so, but I'm not banking on it.

BigDaddyG wrote:

misterearl wrote:Out Of Nowhere

bernard - Shawne Williams did NOT come out of nowhere. He was a first round pick for a reason. The fact that no one was talking about his three point stroke says less about Shawne Williams and more about the self-appointed "experts" who tell us what to think.

Williams falls into the, "hold up, this guy can play" (Donnie Walsh at his workout)category. NO one talked about Landry Fields as a top five rookie prospect in June either.

No one.

His three-point shooting has come out of nowhere. I hop he keeps it up, but you have to be wary. Remember the Cavs when they signed Damon Jones after his career year with the Miami Heat?

Yea, a player like this thrives as an underdog. You give him the cash money and watch him revert to his garbage self. He's a bum that's very hot, let's just ride this out and discard him as the bum that he is at the end of the year.