TMS wrote:

martin wrote:

TMS wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Randolph just doesnt seem to get it. Im not ready to just give him away but he isnt going to excel here under D'Antoni.

never understood that type of statement. Is it this particular coach or is it such that AR prob wouldn't survive with a team that has high expectations.

I see AR getting yelled at and benched by Phil Jackson, Pop, Sloan, Larry Brown, Rivers, any Van Gundy.

What type of puff coach would AR thrive under that also has a winning tradition?

i think he belongs on a rebuilding situation with a coach who will be patient enough to stick w/him through his mistakes on the floor & not banish him to the end of the bench, much in the same way Jordan Hill is being treated by Rick Adelman now in Houston... the raw talent & ability is obviously there, AR just needs to put it together w/his mindset... a tough love approach doesn't always work with every young player's development.

your hardon for bringing Jordan Hill into every conversation no matter what the point is only surpassed by that of Marv's snowman pic in BRIGGS' "18.5 incher in his pants" thread.

the parallels are there, i have no idea wtf your problem is that i bring up Hill's name into this discussion... maybe you should stop talking about hardons & 18 inchers & start talking about basketball.

Balancing winning and training is very difficult task when you are in the business of winning. I am sure when AR is ready like TD came up late in the end his rookie year and if he works hard you will see him later.

My first thought was how much having Camby here could benefit AR.

The catch 22 is, it would probably cost us AR to bring in Camby...

MaTT4281 wrote:You know, it's funny. As Aldridge really begins to excel in Portland, all I kept hearing was LA talk about how big of an impact Camby made on him as a player. Might be very basic stuff, but he talked about Camby showing him how to work out, watch tape, etc.

My first thought was how much having Camby here could benefit AR.

The catch 22 is, it would probably cost us AR to bring in Camby...

I believe the D'antoni said AR should watch/learn STAT beginning of the year. Maybe it is not fair to compare him to Camby when coach is thinking someone else to emulate?

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Randolph just doesnt seem to get it. Im not ready to just give him away but he isnt going to excel here under D'Antoni.

never understood that type of statement. Is it this particular coach or is it such that AR prob wouldn't survive with a team that has high expectations.

I see AR getting yelled at and benched by Phil Jackson, Pop, Sloan, Larry Brown, Rivers, any Van Gundy.

What type of puff coach would AR thrive under that also has a winning tradition?

He would be best served in a rebuilding situation. However, I don't think you can discount that D'Antoni has favorites and that he does banish guys. I think being the last guy off of the bench equates to being banished. I also think that each of the coaches you mentioned have very different approaches and are very different from D'Antoni.

what's the difference between what Pop is doing with Euro sensation Tiago Splitter and how MDA is handling Moz/AR?

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Randolph just doesnt seem to get it. Im not ready to just give him away but he isnt going to excel here under D'Antoni.

never understood that type of statement. Is it this particular coach or is it such that AR prob wouldn't survive with a team that has high expectations.

I see AR getting yelled at and benched by Phil Jackson, Pop, Sloan, Larry Brown, Rivers, any Van Gundy.

What type of puff coach would AR thrive under that also has a winning tradition?

He would be best served in a rebuilding situation. However, I don't think you can discount that D'Antoni has favorites and that he does banish guys. I think being the last guy off of the bench equates to being banished. I also think that each of the coaches you mentioned have very different approaches and are very different from D'Antoni.

what's the difference between what Pop is doing with Euro sensation Tiago Splitter and how MDA is handling Moz/AR?

I think one huge difference is that San Antonio has size and a very good big man rotation and isn't lacking for size.

AR plays the PF or SF. The Knicks rotation of PF/SF is very good.

What's next?

He could try play C.

franco12 wrote:

TMS wrote:

rp wrote:Balancing winning and training is very difficult task when you are in the business of winning. I am sure when AR is ready like TD came up late in the end his rookie year and if he works hard you will see him later.

i agree, it's hard for MDA to balance winning & developing a player like AR who doesn't seem to get his system at all... that's why i think he belongs in a rebuilding situation where the coach can afford to stick by him through his mistakes... the Nets' Avery Johnson is doing this with Derrick Favors, Rick Adelman is doing this with Hill.

TD showed promise last year at the beginning of the season. For reasons unknown, but rationalized by many here, TD didn't get minutes, even as Duhon was out late drinking every night, putting up crappy performances and leading us to a 29 win season.

When people say its probably best for AR to be moved to a different situation, we're not making some automatic response out of some hate for him, its just that we've observed in MDA's actions during his first two seasons a certain degree of favoritism and 'dog house-ism' that suggest the only way for AR to get out is to be traded, or have Walsh travel with the team and have a word with MDA about his rotations on a 29 win season.

i agree, but i doubt Walsh is gonna say a word to MDA as long as the team keeps winning games... last year's situation was different when he was watching this team stink & yet our young guys still couldn't get playing time, it raises questions & he probably wanted to see for himself what was going on during practice that was causing those kids not to see any run in games... i think the only way for AR to see minutes is if MDA has no other choice but to play him at this point... he still has Williams, Walker & Mozgov ahead of him in the rotation, so even though 1 of our starters gets injured, he's not likely gonna see much run off the end of the bench.

fishmike wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Randolph just doesnt seem to get it. Im not ready to just give him away but he isnt going to excel here under D'Antoni.

never understood that type of statement. Is it this particular coach or is it such that AR prob wouldn't survive with a team that has high expectations.

I see AR getting yelled at and benched by Phil Jackson, Pop, Sloan, Larry Brown, Rivers, any Van Gundy.

What type of puff coach would AR thrive under that also has a winning tradition?

D'Antoni values offense over defense. D'Antoni also plays favorites. If he doesn't like you then your not playing.

D'Antoni's system is also a little too free flowing for a guy like Randolph. I think Randolph could be solid in half court sets.

funny... after EVERY win he usually talks about getting the players to buy into what they are doing defensivly. Seriously do you have anything to say? I feel like your only able to type 3 things and rotate them post by post:
1) Dantoni doesnt value defense
2) This wouldnt happen if we had Melo
3) I heart Gilbert Arenas

Almost like Rudy Giuliani in his last presidential run - a noun, a verb and 9/11