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knicks1248
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1/11/2011  10:03 AM
grillco wrote:
franco12 wrote:we don't have the assets, but last I checked, the players they're getting from NJ have lead them to about 10 wins this year.

Curry & True Rookie of the year Landry Fields would be worth more than what they're getting from NJ!

That's been my thing all along. Denver clearly just doesn't want to accommodate Melo's supposed desire to play NY. It seems all about perception of control as Papabear alluded too earlier.

It's amazing how they said the same thing last year, how the nets have more assets..how, they won 12 games last season and on pace to win...well..not much more.. Every player on the NJN have below avg IQ's, play 0 defense, and are just flat out soft.

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1/11/2011  10:10 AM
JohnWallace44 wrote:I feel bad for the Nugg's current GM somewhat because he didn't sign Harrington. I would want to get rid of that contract as well. I seriously wonder who they thought they were competing with. He averaged 17.7ppg on 43% shooting and 34% from three and 5 rebounds per game. He did that on a terrible team and clearly had issues stalling the offense. I could see wanting Harrington on your bench. They signed him for what looks like the full mid-level with max raises for five years. That's the type of deal that Isiah would have used once upon a time to nab an up and coming high-ceiling prospect (Curry/Crawford). Al would never be confused with that. Everyone knows what Al is. Was he supposed to be the player that would put them over the top? Even if that was the case, who was giving him money anywhere near that?

I agree with your breakdown, except for the highlighted area. It was in fact basically a double mid-level sign and trade with two 1st round picks for Curry that really hurt the team the last few years as far a flexibility. And history has shown us that Harrington is a vastly superior player to Curry, albeit not one that anyone really wants.

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1/11/2011  10:18 AM
NYKBocker wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

This is a face saving move by Denver because Carmelo ain't signing any place else but the knicks. Denver is playing games to save face. Carmelo told them he wants the Knicks point blank and everyone now must save face. This is the first step with Carmelo coming to New York. We only have a few friendly teams that will give us a first round draft choice to trade.

This is the first thing I thought of also when this came up. Denver is doing some kind of damage control for their fans. They don't want to look weak where Melo was dictating how things would go. This scenario makes them look like they did what they wanted to do and as you have stated..."Saving face".


Interesting theory...and one I never considered.
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1/11/2011  10:23 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
grillco wrote:
franco12 wrote:we don't have the assets, but last I checked, the players they're getting from NJ have lead them to about 10 wins this year.

Curry & True Rookie of the year Landry Fields would be worth more than what they're getting from NJ!

That's been my thing all along. Denver clearly just doesn't want to accommodate Melo's supposed desire to play NY. It seems all about perception of control as Papabear alluded too earlier.

It's amazing how they said the same thing last year, how the nets have more assets..how, they won 12 games last season and on pace to win...well..not much more.. Every player on the NJN have below avg IQ's, play 0 defense, and are just flat out soft.

tru dat

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1/11/2011  10:36 AM
Unfortunately Denver has NJ by the balls.

I wish Carmelo would just say screw it and wait until the summer though.

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1/11/2011  10:53 AM
AnubisADL wrote:Unfortunately Denver has NJ by the balls.

I wish Carmelo would just say screw it and wait until the summer though.

Then he'd likely get traded to a place like Dallas and get a half season of full court wooing by Cuban about the virtues of signing with the Mavs and getting a few rings with Dirk. I'm not saying he'd sign there, but Cuban would make it really hard to pass up.

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1/11/2011  11:01 AM
AnubisADL wrote:Unfortunately Denver has NJ by the balls.

I wish Carmelo would just say screw it and wait until the summer though.

i know after a threat like that, I would tell them F/U..They basicallly said STFU or i'll send him to your arch rival/division foe, yet NJ is gutting there team and future for one player.

It's like NJN are the crack heads and Denver is the Dealer..

Real Talk..A crack head just sold me a brand new 72" samsung flat screen this morning for for $250..down from his original asking price of $500..I feel like denver...

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1/11/2011  11:14 AM
The only way Denver gets anything from us is a package of Curry/AR/Azabuike/TD for the Melo man. I am not disrupting the core of this team with the current Melo/Denver situation. I think this is the best package they can get or just lose Melo for nothing in the summer. Play hard ball.
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1/11/2011  11:31 AM
NYKBocker wrote:The only way Denver gets anything from us is a package of Curry/AR/Azabuike/TD for the Melo man. I am not disrupting the core of this team with the current Melo/Denver situation. I think this is the best package they can get or just lose Melo for nothing in the summer. Play hard ball.

Word. If the Nuggs won't negotiate with us straight up, let's play hardball. Truth is, Donnie Walnuts doesn't believe we NEED Melo to win, and neither do I. Sure, he would be an upgrade in the "closing out games" department. But we would most likely lose 3pt shooting and/or defense in any trade. As for Al coming back in any deal, I think Donnie and MDA could live with that. Yes, it's four years, but we could probably find a way to move him before too long. And if not, he certainly can score and is a bonafide threat from 3pt range. I can live with Klingon scalp for a couple years coming off the bench for 15mpg. He had some clutch games for us and is a scoring machine on occasion.

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1/11/2011  11:42 AM
I'd trade anybody but Amar'e, Felton, and Fields to get Melo and Nene... is that in any way even possible?

Like... Chandler, Gallo, Randolph, Mosgov for Melo & Nene?

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1/11/2011  11:45 AM
xeo wrote:I'd trade anybody but Amar'e, Felton, and Fields to get Melo and Nene... is that in any way even possible?

Like... Chandler, Gallo, Randolph, Mosgov for Melo & Nene?

How the hell did you get 20,000 posts?

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1/11/2011  11:46 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/11/2011  11:46 AM
xeo wrote:I'd trade anybody but Amar'e, Felton, and Fields to get Melo and Nene... is that in any way even possible?

Like... Chandler, Gallo, Randolph, Mosgov for Melo & Nene?

Isiah...is that really you????????????

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1/11/2011  12:00 PM
xeo wrote:I'd trade anybody but Amar'e, Felton, and Fields to get Melo and Nene... is that in any way even possible?

Like... Chandler, Gallo, Randolph, Mosgov for Melo & Nene?

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1/11/2011  12:01 PM
Here's the original reporting of Al's deal with the Nuggets... Interesting what the point of view was then.

Harrington says he's signing with Nuggets
Benjamin Hochman
The Denver Post
POSTED: 07/14/2010 07:34:57 AM MDT
UPDATED: 07/14/2010 04:55:32 PM MDT

The Nuggets' frontcourt just got better — and healthier. Former Knicks forward Al Harrington has agreed to sign with Denver. He tweeted at @a7harrington: "I'm taking my Talents to the MILE HIGH. Lol. Love Yall Lego DENVER!!"

The 6-foot-9, 250-pound forward averaged 17.7 points and 5.6 rebounds last season for New York.

Harrington will sign a five-year deal worth close to $34 million, a NBA source said, and the Nuggets will use their full mid-level exception on the deal. There won't be any option years in the deal, and the final two years are not guaranteed, the source said.

The move ensures that Linas Kleiza won't get the mid-level exception offer from Denver and will thus join the Toronto Raptors, who signed the forward to an offer sheet last week.

The Denver Post previously cited two sources who said that all-star Carmelo Anthony is expected to accept the Nuggets' contract extension offer of three years and $65 million. Before doing so, Anthony wanted to see what the Nuggets could do to bolster their frontcourt.

Now the Nuggets have made a pretty big move with Harrington. Anthony, who was married this past weekend to television personality LaLa Vazquez, is out of the country and could not be reached for comment.

It's been a busy day for the Nuggets. The team also has agreed to terms with post player Shelden Williams and backup point guard Anthony Carter. Both are one-year deals for about the league minimum of $1 million per season, multiple sources confirmed.

Denver's biggest need this offseason, echoed multiple times by coach George Karl, was getting another big man. Starting power forward Kenyon Martin and reserve center Chris Andersen both underwent knee surgery this offseason. It's uncertain when they'll be cleared to practice.

Nene, who had one of his healthiest regular seasons since arriving in Denver, sustained a freak sprained knee injury in the first round of the playoffs against Utah. Nene played in all 82 games in 2009-10, but in the previous four seasons his games-played totals were 77, 16, 64 and one, as he battled numerous injuries as well as testicular cancer.

Harrington, 30, just completed his 12th NBA season. He was selected by Indiana out of St. Patrick's High School (Orange, N.J.) with the 25th overall selection in the 1998 NBA Draft.

He's been traded four times: From Indiana to Atlanta in exchange for Stephen Jackson in 2004; from Atlanta, along with John Edwards, back to Indiana in exchange for a future first-round pick in 2006; shipped to Golden State in 2007; traded by Golden State to the Knicks in exchange for Jamal Crawford on Nov. 21, 2008.

Harrington has averaged 14.1 points and 5.8 rebounds per game in his career. His best season, scoring-wise, was in 2008-09 when he averaged 20.1 points per game with the Warriors and Knicks. In his final full season with the Pacers, he finished second to Dallas' Antawn Jamison in voting for NBA's sixth-man-of-the-year award.

Williams, 26, is 6-feet-9, 250 pounds. He was a reserve last season for the Eastern Conference champion Boston Celtics, averaging 11.1 minutes per game. He averaged 3.7 points and 2.7 rebbounds in 54 games played.

Carter played sparingly for the Nuggets behind Chauncey Billups and Ty Lawson. He played in 54 games, averaging 15.8 minutes and 3.3 points in 54 games.

Read more: Harrington says he's signing with Nuggets - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/ci_15513137#ixzz1AkN62pSe
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1/11/2011  12:22 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/11/2011  12:23 PM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
xeo wrote:I'd trade anybody but Amar'e, Felton, and Fields to get Melo and Nene... is that in any way even possible?

Like... Chandler, Gallo, Randolph, Mosgov for Melo & Nene?

How the hell did you get 20,000 posts?

lol, i think martin and andrew did some multiplying of our post counts or something because i am pretty sure i was at least 5000 under 10 g's until recently...

Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
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1/11/2011  12:25 PM
PresIke wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
xeo wrote:I'd trade anybody but Amar'e, Felton, and Fields to get Melo and Nene... is that in any way even possible?

Like... Chandler, Gallo, Randolph, Mosgov for Melo & Nene?

How the hell did you get 20,000 posts?

lol, i think martin and andrew did some multiplying of our post counts or something because i am pretty sure i was at least 5000 under 10 g's until recently...

Bip was given 10k posts and everyone else was given 20k

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1/11/2011  2:38 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Unfortunately Denver has NJ by the balls.

I wish Carmelo would just say screw it and wait until the summer though.

i know after a threat like that, I would tell them F/U..They basicallly said STFU or i'll send him to your arch rival/division foe, yet NJ is gutting there team and future for one player.

It's like NJN are the crack heads and Denver is the Dealer..

Real Talk..A crack head just sold me a brand new 72" samsung flat screen this morning for for $250..down from his original asking price of $500..I feel like denver...


Does this crack head, by any chance, have a Mac mini or some old Sandra Romain DVDs lying around. Not for me, of course, but for a friend.
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1/11/2011  2:56 PM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
xeo wrote:I'd trade anybody but Amar'e, Felton, and Fields to get Melo and Nene... is that in any way even possible?

Like... Chandler, Gallo, Randolph, Mosgov for Melo & Nene?

How the hell did you get 20,000 posts?

By not being Bip!

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1/11/2011  2:56 PM
Time to burn this place to the ground again
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1/11/2011  3:07 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Unfortunately Denver has NJ by the balls.

I wish Carmelo would just say screw it and wait until the summer though.

i know after a threat like that, I would tell them F/U..They basicallly said STFU or i'll send him to your arch rival/division foe, yet NJ is gutting there team and future for one player.

It's like NJN are the crack heads and Denver is the Dealer..

Real Talk..A crack head just sold me a brand new 72" samsung flat screen this morning for for $250..down from his original asking price of $500..I feel like denver...


Does this crack head, by any chance, have a Mac mini or some old Sandra Romain DVDs lying around. Not for me, of course, but for a friend.

Yes, I will sell you all of that for $700. $50 for the Mac Mini and $650 for my 2 Sandra DVDs.

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