TMS wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Iggy makes zero sense as a guy who can create his own shot. Or create shots for others. He scores in transition and on horrible jumpers and we have plenty of guys who can do that for way less money.

he's averaging 5.5 assists this season.

TMS wrote:

nixluva wrote:I read that Mike is looking to try and play Timo again, cuz he feels that if he can get him right, that he'd be helpful by the playoffs. I really hope this kid can pull it together cuz we need someone to help out and he's got true C size. Donnie has to get rid of some of the dead weight and pick up some real help. You figure that he's gonna go for the Big man help if he can, but I wonder if he's thinking about a lowercase Melo. The SG with breakdown ability like Mayo off the bench would be very welcome, cuz I still feel we lose focus when Amar'e leaves the game. We have to have someone who can take over the scoring. Since it's unlikely we'll get Denver to deal Melo to us, then I think guys like Mayo or Jamal aren't totally out of the question.

MDA plans on playing a young kid to get him right? i thought it was up to Mozgov to get himself right & start playing the way MDA wants him to play before he should be given playing time? if he's gonna let Mozgov learn on the job, shouldn't he be doing the same for AR?

I agree but from what I have read, Mozgov plays the right way in practice and works really hard. He is getting stage fright in games and needs to break through that little hitch. The only way to fix this is by giving him some time in games. Probably in spot occasions. AR is still not playing the right way and would only mess up the continuity of the offense.

TMS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

TMS wrote:

nixluva wrote:I've seen Iggy break his man down and get to the hole on many occasions. I just don't think he's the greatest guy for that tho. OJ Mayo is a very interesting guy tho. Outside of getting Melo, you really don't have many guys who specialize in creating their own shots. The way the offense is constructed you really don't want a lot of ISO stuff, except when it's absolutely necessary. So you don't want a guy that goes into that stuff every single time down. You want him to stay within the offense, but if it's needed, he can turn it on at anytime and get into the teeth of any defense. OJ Mayo seems like one of the few guys out there who could be available given how his team is using him right now.

that stuff about Mayo getting into a fight with Tony Allen over a gambling debt raises some red flags with me... there has to be a reason why MEM has been trying to trade him for the past 2 years now... maybe there's some off the court issues to be concerned about... i'd sooner stay away from Mayo if this stuff is true:

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2011/01/05/oj-mayo-tony-allen-reportedly-fight-on-grizzlies-plane/

We have a guy on our team name Shawn williams that had similar off court issue's, we employed a player that choked his coach, and thats just to name a couple of the many..

I thought chandler was developing into a nice wing man, both him and gallo.

I guess you want ready made

not sure what Chandler & Gallo have to do w/this conversation... care to elaborate?

Mayo getting into fights w/his teammates raises concerns... i think ur being obtuse to ignore this... am i saying there's no way he could work out here in NY? no, don't think i did... just saying he raises concerns... is that cool with u?

Seems like you put it out there suggesting it could be a problem. The reason i brought those 2 into the conversation was...well put it this way, the fact that people are still thinking we need a wing man who essentially could do what those 2 are already doing has me thinking that some don't think these 2 can develope into that specially wing man, and I think thats dumb.

If the Knicks can't make a big deal, I'd love to see if they can trade AR and Roger Mason for Telfair and Wayne Ellington

Markji wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:OJ Mayo would be excellent in that role. What the team needs is someone who can catch and shoot. The best option may already be on the roster... that is if Andy Rautins develops properly.

If the Knicks can't make a big deal, I'd love to see if they can trade AR and Roger Mason for Telfair and Wayne Ellington

Save AR to trade for a Big. That is our biggest need and AR is ourmost tradeable asset as he isn't part of our core.

AR is our LEAST tradable asset.

He's just our most expendable asset. Bit of a difference.

scoshin wrote:

Markji wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:OJ Mayo would be excellent in that role. What the team needs is someone who can catch and shoot. The best option may already be on the roster... that is if Andy Rautins develops properly.

If the Knicks can't make a big deal, I'd love to see if they can trade AR and Roger Mason for Telfair and Wayne Ellington

Save AR to trade for a Big. That is our biggest need and AR is ourmost tradeable asset as he isn't part of our core.

AR is our LEAST tradable asset.

He's just our most expendable asset. Bit of a difference.

His value is reallllllllly low. I'm just trying to think of a way we can extract need and talent from trading him. With AR it probably has to be a big-for-small swap in order to achieve that

Point is, you can get SOMETHING for him right now. Yes, his value is low now, but so long as he's on a rookie contract and is cheap, he will have the interest of teams and some people will say "I'll fix the big man. I'll take a shot at him."

TMS wrote:

JohnWallace44 wrote:If the reported Minny deal for Telfair and a #1 is accurate, that's fair value for AR. A useful player at a good salary number and a pick for a former top ten pick that is stuck on our bench.

You could trade him any day you wanted in a deal by himself.

To move Curry, you'd have to either take on more salary or pair him with other valuable assets. He's by far our least valuable asset.

Telfair & a lottery pick for AR changes the equation... i'd definitely make that deal... where did u see that reported that Minny would be willing to give up their #1 pick?

nah, it's not a lotto pick - supposedly it's the grizzlies pick - but that pick is top 14 protected and right now the grizz are 13.

T'Wolves receive the Grizzlies' 2011 first-round pick, via the Jazz (Ronnie Brewer trade) (top 14 protected in 2011, top 12 protected in 2012, top 10 protected in 2013, top 9 protected in 2014 and 2015, if pick is not conveyed to the T'Wolves by 2015, the T'Wolves will instead receive cash considerations from the Grizzlies) (Al Jefferson trade 07-13-10)

crzymdups wrote:

TMS wrote:

JohnWallace44 wrote:If the reported Minny deal for Telfair and a #1 is accurate, that's fair value for AR. A useful player at a good salary number and a pick for a former top ten pick that is stuck on our bench.

You could trade him any day you wanted in a deal by himself.

To move Curry, you'd have to either take on more salary or pair him with other valuable assets. He's by far our least valuable asset.

Telfair & a lottery pick for AR changes the equation... i'd definitely make that deal... where did u see that reported that Minny would be willing to give up their #1 pick?

nah, it's not a lotto pick - supposedly it's the grizzlies pick - but that pick is top 14 protected and right now the grizz are 13.

T'Wolves receive the Grizzlies' 2011 first-round pick, via the Jazz (Ronnie Brewer trade) (top 14 protected in 2011, top 12 protected in 2012, top 10 protected in 2013, top 9 protected in 2014 and 2015, if pick is not conveyed to the T'Wolves by 2015, the T'Wolves will instead receive cash considerations from the Grizzlies) (Al Jefferson trade 07-13-10)

http://www.nbadraft.net/2011mock_draft

eh... not to crazy about that then, unless we're gonna parlay that pick into getting someone like Camby in another deal... i'd be down for something like that.