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grillco
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1/10/2011  10:29 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/10/2011  10:30 AM
MS wrote:Ewing was a great player. True he never had the superstar we all wanted, but the Knicks gave him enough sporting players around him to deliever a championship on multiple occasions. He missed big shots his entire career and when he had his chance in 1994 against Hakeem he didn't deliever.

Ewing 18.9pts 12.4rbs 1.7ass 4.3blks 36% from the field
Hakeem 26.9pts 9.1rbs 3.6ass 3.9blks 50% from the field

Supporting cast
Starks 17.7pts 5.9ass
Harper 16.4pts 6ass
Oak 11pts 11.9rbs
Smith 9.3
Mason 8.6pts


He got a few bad breaks Charles Smith, Michael Jordan, Suspensions. But, he had the best team in the series. He had trouble embracing and warming up to teammates and always wanted the most money.

Clearly, he was our guy, the guy and an All Time Great.

But what we have hear is very similiar. But we have young guys that are getting better. Signing Melo for 22MM and giving away your whole team is going to do what. We need big bodies we are not matching up with the heat so you attack there weakness, as you do with the Bulls. We have a good team and are a few key pieces away. Melo isn't making us the team to beat. Patience is the move.

Boo! He was playing against Jordan and Pippen...no one else was able to beat them either, so this goes to every other non-Bulls all-star during those two three-peats. '94 was all about Riley putting too much faith in a SUPER cold Starks in game six. He was also the only player the Rockets put their full effort into neutralizing, taking the chance on the rest the Knicks beating them...their plan worked. Yes Patrick missed the finger roll in '95, but he always busted his ass for the Knicks.

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1/10/2011  10:30 AM
Carmelo is a better player than Amare period AND he is younger.

Personally I dont care about Amare's ego being hurt by Melo being the man here.

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1/10/2011  10:35 AM
AnubisADL wrote:Carmelo is a better player than Amare period AND he is younger.

Personally I dont care about Amare's ego being hurt by Melo being the man here.

I am voting this the new #1 stupid post of the year.

Dude, you own like the top 5 slots on this site.

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1/10/2011  10:38 AM
AnubisADL wrote:Carmelo is a better player than Amare period AND he is younger.

Personally I dont care about Amare's ego being hurt by Melo being the man here.

Carmelo Anthony is not better than Amar'e Stoudemire. Quit that bs. If Melo comes here, he's coming here to be STAT's 'Scottie Pippen'. Not the other way around.

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1/10/2011  10:41 AM
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Mon Jan 10 07:11am EST
Amar'e doesn't want to add Anthony

By Mark J. Miller

Amar'e StoudemireNew York Knicks president of basketball operations Donnie Walsh has asked the Denver Nuggets would it take to get Carmelo Anthony(notes) to the Big Apple. It appears highly unlikely that Anthony will be headed to the Knicks anytime soon and the New York Daily News repor
ts that Amar'e Stoudemire(notes) is feeling fine about that.

Stoudemire has said publicly that he'd love to have Anthony on the team, the Daily News notes, but a former Phoenix Suns teammate tells the paper, "Amar'e will embrace any teammate, but if it were up to him, I know he'd rather just see the Knicks stay the way they are. Amar'e likes being the guy. He likes the players that are around him. I know he's thinking, 'Why would we want to change this?'"

It is looking like Stoudemire, who is averaging 26.2 points, 9.1 assists, and 2.6 assists per game and has basketball lovers in New York feeling hopeful again, will get his wish and not have Anthony on his team

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I just can't believe this! Come on too many rumors.

Rebuttal:

Melopalooza reaches ludicrous speed
By Alan Hahn

http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/the-knicks-fix-1.812055/melopalooza-reaches-ludicrous-speed-1.2598826

LOS ANGELES -- When Jim Gray strolled by, I knew the night was headed for disaster. The Master of Ceremonies -- and, apparently, mastermind -- for LeBron's "Decision" was hovering at the exact time the NBA world was now wondering what yet another star was going to do about his future.

Would Carmelo really sign that contract extension with the Nets?

So far, he hasn't, but it shouldn't be long now before we find out. One thing I can tell you is despite suggestions elsewhere that Amar'e Stoudemire doesn't care either way, let me assure you that people close to him have told me he is very much interested in teaming up with Carmelo in New York.

But he, like the entire Knicks organization, doesn't want it to come at a cost that would ravage a roster that Amar'e believes has great potential.

"Amar'e never said as has been reported that he does not want Carmelo," a person close to Stoudemire said last night. "He thinks he would be great in New York . . . [Carmelo] just has to be patient and wait it out."

That is what the Knicks want, but Carmelo's party wants something else. They want that $65 million over three years (plus next year's salary of $18 million) that is tangible money, rather than risk going into free agency under an extremely restricted new CBA system.

It's a mess in Denver now and the cloud that has hung over the team all season as a result of Carmelo's uncertain situation has the team in an emotional tailspin. The Nuggets have been listening to offers -- at least from everyone but the Knicks -- and considering options, but a source told me things took a serious turn over the last few days and suddenly there was a greater motivation to get something done sooner rather than later.

Things got very hot with the Nets over the weekend, but by Sunday night Josh Kroenke started pumping the brakes. George Karl's misery can be overwhelming for those close to him, but Kroenke started to reconsider a rash move just because the coach lost his patience. It also didn't help that CAA -- the fellas that rep Melo (you remember them from the LeBronathon) -- started applying their own full-court press.

Denver may not get a better offer than what Billy King has presented to them with seemingly inexhaustible effort. But what we still don't know is if Carmelo will sign that extension. Will he? Won't he?

Didn't we do this dance already once before?

Those close to Carmelo have said one thing he wanted to avoid was winding up in the same situation as LeBron. Well, guess what? You're almost there.

The Knicks are closely monitoring the situation with some anxiety. At this point it seems the Knicks just want some type of conclusion to emerge just so they can move forward. If Carmelo does take the deal to go to the Nets, Donnie Walsh and his staff are ready to quickly transition into using those assets they have horded over the last few months -- Eddy Curry's expiring, Anthony Randolph's potential -- and fill some actual areas of need on the current roster, with nothing more important than finding a starting-quality center.

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1/10/2011  10:55 AM
All in favor of letting people just speak to themselves instead of responding to their silly posts... just do that.

Amar'e >>> Carmello. He's even a better scorer. Sorry, it's the truth.

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1/10/2011  10:59 AM
Isola has been printing his own speculation based solely on Amar'e postgame comments after Phoenix that "we don't need much." Can't believe some of you are gobbling up Isola's articles as truth. He's clearly stirring the pot again with half-assed sources ("former Suns teammate" knows whether Amar'e wants Melo?).
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1/10/2011  11:06 AM
Vmart wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
knickstorrents wrote:Cool, me and Amare have something in common.

You and Amare will have a lot more in common. No championship. Amare needs to get over the his the man trip and rely on some help. NYK already went through a I'm the man phase by no fault of his, you guys recall Ewing or is he an after thought. Ewing gave his heart and soul to the Knicks and they never got him the second superstar in his prime, Love the playoff runs but what was missing, yeah a championship. Amare will go the same route if the Knicks don't get him help. To be honest I don't want any after thoughts on what could have been. I want a ring ceremony for the Knicks in MSG with the championship banner going up.


No one's saying they don't want a 2nd superstar. They're saying they don't want Carmelo!

Put it this way Plan B is void of superstars. Its a make shift team built to make playoffs with no championship aspirations.

You have access to Walsh's plan B?

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1/10/2011  11:08 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
knickstorrents wrote:Cool, me and Amare have something in common.

You and Amare will have a lot more in common. No championship. Amare needs to get over the his the man trip and rely on some help. NYK already went through a I'm the man phase by no fault of his, you guys recall Ewing or is he an after thought. Ewing gave his heart and soul to the Knicks and they never got him the second superstar in his prime, Love the playoff runs but what was missing, yeah a championship. Amare will go the same route if the Knicks don't get him help. To be honest I don't want any after thoughts on what could have been. I want a ring ceremony for the Knicks in MSG with the championship banner going up.


No one's saying they don't want a 2nd superstar. They're saying they don't want Carmelo!

Put it this way Plan B is void of superstars. Its a make shift team built to make playoffs with no championship aspirations.

You have access to Walsh's plan B?

This is all assuming Melo is even plan A! For all we know, the Knicks could have no interest whatsoever in Melo.

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1/10/2011  11:11 AM
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Carmelo is a better player than Amare period AND he is younger.

Personally I dont care about Amare's ego being hurt by Melo being the man here.

I am voting this the new #1 stupid post of the year.

Dude, you own like the top 5 slots on this site.

Calling me names martin. Really?

Im pretty sure Briggs has the top 5 slots but whatever.

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1/10/2011  11:15 AM
AnubisADL wrote:
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Carmelo is a better player than Amare period AND he is younger.

Personally I dont care about Amare's ego being hurt by Melo being the man here.

I am voting this the new #1 stupid post of the year.

Dude, you own like the top 5 slots on this site.

Calling me names martin. Really?

Im pretty sure Briggs has the top 5 slots but whatever.

I am describing the content of your post and the overall thought process that went into it.

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1/10/2011  12:29 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/10/2011  12:30 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
knickstorrents wrote:Cool, me and Amare have something in common.

You and Amare will have a lot more in common. No championship. Amare needs to get over the his the man trip and rely on some help. NYK already went through a I'm the man phase by no fault of his, you guys recall Ewing or is he an after thought. Ewing gave his heart and soul to the Knicks and they never got him the second superstar in his prime, Love the playoff runs but what was missing, yeah a championship. Amare will go the same route if the Knicks don't get him help. To be honest I don't want any after thoughts on what could have been. I want a ring ceremony for the Knicks in MSG with the championship banner going up.


No one's saying they don't want a 2nd superstar. They're saying they don't want Carmelo!

Put it this way Plan B is void of superstars. Its a make shift team built to make playoffs with no championship aspirations.

You have access to Walsh's plan B?

This is all assuming Melo is even plan A! For all we know, the Knicks could have no interest whatsoever in Melo.


Good point. I think we would have heard a lot more out of the Knicks' camp if they ever had serious interest in Melo. This seems more like some fans just wanting the shiny new toy (as Fish put it)
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1/10/2011  1:13 PM
Knicks from day one have kept this close to the vest. No publicity on the trade like Nets are doing.

They are stringing Favors out but he is a rookie and im sure was told he may be moved but should keep his game up and not worry. He is 19 years old.

Knicks may be in the thick of it all for all we know.

Im sure Melo on nets is not good until they hit brooklyn. The russian is commited to build it.

Little imagination by starphuch writers and fans on how this shakes out the next few years.

"NO SUPERSTARS" on plan "B" indicates little forthought to the future.

Lets say you get melo for the often mentioned trio of Chandler, Gallo and Fields then your losing two starters and gaining a superstar.

Now we have no space to manuver to get big up front.

Your not winning in the next two years like that. Naturally Walsh has done wonders so far and maybe he has a plan up his sleeve tht is better than any of us can imagine? Maybe he can see players who would thrive in the MDA way? Maybe he sees players that we could get that would not. Maybe he see's melo has a good thing but only at the right price.

Who knows? VMart? Martin? Anibus? TMS? Nalod?

Nope.

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1/10/2011  2:23 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
knickstorrents wrote:Cool, me and Amare have something in common.

You and Amare will have a lot more in common. No championship. Amare needs to get over the his the man trip and rely on some help. NYK already went through a I'm the man phase by no fault of his, you guys recall Ewing or is he an after thought. Ewing gave his heart and soul to the Knicks and they never got him the second superstar in his prime, Love the playoff runs but what was missing, yeah a championship. Amare will go the same route if the Knicks don't get him help. To be honest I don't want any after thoughts on what could have been. I want a ring ceremony for the Knicks in MSG with the championship banner going up.


No one's saying they don't want a 2nd superstar. They're saying they don't want Carmelo!

Put it this way Plan B is void of superstars. Its a make shift team built to make playoffs with no championship aspirations.

You have access to Walsh's plan B?

The question is he does he have access to superstars. Melo is the only one of the elite category that is left out there at this point the rest are all under contract. Who is becoming available to Walsh that is even close to the star level of Melo?

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1/10/2011  2:43 PM
Vmart wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
knickstorrents wrote:Cool, me and Amare have something in common.

You and Amare will have a lot more in common. No championship. Amare needs to get over the his the man trip and rely on some help. NYK already went through a I'm the man phase by no fault of his, you guys recall Ewing or is he an after thought. Ewing gave his heart and soul to the Knicks and they never got him the second superstar in his prime, Love the playoff runs but what was missing, yeah a championship. Amare will go the same route if the Knicks don't get him help. To be honest I don't want any after thoughts on what could have been. I want a ring ceremony for the Knicks in MSG with the championship banner going up.


No one's saying they don't want a 2nd superstar. They're saying they don't want Carmelo!

Put it this way Plan B is void of superstars. Its a make shift team built to make playoffs with no championship aspirations.

You have access to Walsh's plan B?

The question is he does he have access to superstars. Melo is the only one of the elite category that is left out there at this point the rest are all under contract. Who is becoming available to Walsh that is even close to the star level of Melo?

Yes, Wilson. But if you mean a true superstar, that's gonna have to wait 1 1/2 years and hopefully they'll pursue Dwight Howard and Deron Williams. One of those two would have to want to come here and force an S & T. If not, keep building as deep a team as possible and maybe we can be one of the rare teams whose depth outplays a team with a few stars. It's rare but people did have a few examples in the thread I posted a few days ago.

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1/10/2011  3:08 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
knickstorrents wrote:Cool, me and Amare have something in common.

You and Amare will have a lot more in common. No championship. Amare needs to get over the his the man trip and rely on some help. NYK already went through a I'm the man phase by no fault of his, you guys recall Ewing or is he an after thought. Ewing gave his heart and soul to the Knicks and they never got him the second superstar in his prime, Love the playoff runs but what was missing, yeah a championship. Amare will go the same route if the Knicks don't get him help. To be honest I don't want any after thoughts on what could have been. I want a ring ceremony for the Knicks in MSG with the championship banner going up.


No one's saying they don't want a 2nd superstar. They're saying they don't want Carmelo!

Put it this way Plan B is void of superstars. Its a make shift team built to make playoffs with no championship aspirations.

You have access to Walsh's plan B?

The question is he does he have access to superstars. Melo is the only one of the elite category that is left out there at this point the rest are all under contract. Who is becoming available to Walsh that is even close to the star level of Melo?

Yes, Wilson. But if you mean a true superstar, that's gonna have to wait 1 1/2 years and hopefully they'll pursue Dwight Howard and Deron Williams. One of those two would have to want to come here and force an S & T. If not, keep building as deep a team as possible and maybe we can be one of the rare teams whose depth outplays a team with a few stars. It's rare but people did have a few examples in the thread I posted a few days ago.

Bonn, we wont even be able to re-sign our own players if we want to be under the cap in two years. The FA superstar opportunity is now, beyond that it's trades.

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1/10/2011  3:38 PM
BlueSeats wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
knickstorrents wrote:Cool, me and Amare have something in common.

You and Amare will have a lot more in common. No championship. Amare needs to get over the his the man trip and rely on some help. NYK already went through a I'm the man phase by no fault of his, you guys recall Ewing or is he an after thought. Ewing gave his heart and soul to the Knicks and they never got him the second superstar in his prime, Love the playoff runs but what was missing, yeah a championship. Amare will go the same route if the Knicks don't get him help. To be honest I don't want any after thoughts on what could have been. I want a ring ceremony for the Knicks in MSG with the championship banner going up.


No one's saying they don't want a 2nd superstar. They're saying they don't want Carmelo!

Put it this way Plan B is void of superstars. Its a make shift team built to make playoffs with no championship aspirations.

You have access to Walsh's plan B?

The question is he does he have access to superstars. Melo is the only one of the elite category that is left out there at this point the rest are all under contract. Who is becoming available to Walsh that is even close to the star level of Melo?

Yes, Wilson. But if you mean a true superstar, that's gonna have to wait 1 1/2 years and hopefully they'll pursue Dwight Howard and Deron Williams. One of those two would have to want to come here and force an S & T. If not, keep building as deep a team as possible and maybe we can be one of the rare teams whose depth outplays a team with a few stars. It's rare but people did have a few examples in the thread I posted a few days ago.

Bonn, we wont even be able to re-sign our own players if we want to be under the cap in two years. The FA superstar opportunity is now, beyond that it's trades.


I know. I said "S & T" (meaning sign and trade)
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1/10/2011  4:18 PM
scoshin wrote:Isola has been printing his own speculation based solely on Amar'e postgame comments after Phoenix that "we don't need much." Can't believe some of you are gobbling up Isola's articles as truth. He's clearly stirring the pot again with half-assed sources ("former Suns teammate" knows whether Amar'e wants Melo?).

lol... seriously i love it when these writers come up with these unnamed "sources" & then headline their articles like they're breaking some factual news... some of these guys mine as well write for the National Enquirer

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1/10/2011  6:09 PM
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Carmelo is a better player than Amare period AND he is younger.

Personally I dont care about Amare's ego being hurt by Melo being the man here.

I am voting this the new #1 stupid post of the year.

Dude, you own like the top 5 slots on this site.

Martin-surprised you even wasted bandwidth responding that XXXXXXX statement

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1/10/2011  6:23 PM
MS wrote:Ewing was a great player. True he never had the superstar we all wanted, but the Knicks gave him enough sporting players around him to deliever a championship on multiple occasions. He missed big shots his entire career and when he had his chance in 1994 against Hakeem he didn't deliever.

Ewing 18.9pts 12.4rbs 1.7ass 4.3blks 36% from the field
Hakeem 26.9pts 9.1rbs 3.6ass 3.9blks 50% from the field

Supporting cast
Starks 17.7pts 5.9ass
Harper 16.4pts 6ass
Oak 11pts 11.9rbs
Smith 9.3
Mason 8.6pts


He got a few bad breaks Charles Smith, Michael Jordan, Suspensions. But, he had the best team in the series. He had trouble embracing and warming up to teammates and always wanted the most money.

Clearly, he was our guy, the guy and an All Time Great.

But what we have hear is very similiar. But we have young guys that are getting better. Signing Melo for 22MM and giving away your whole team is going to do what. We need big bodies we are not matching up with the heat so you attack there weakness, as you do with the Bulls. We have a good team and are a few key pieces away. Melo isn't making us the team to beat. Patience is the move.

+100

The new new core: Randle, RJ, IQ. Maybe Mitch. Future pick. Future trade. Future FA.
Amar'e doesn't want to add Anthony.

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