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1/6/2011  11:57 AM
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SlimChin wrote:i don't know about the whole roster, but how about this for starting five:

PG-Felton
SG-Fields
PF-STAT
SF-Melo
C-Gasol

this is assuming that Wil and Gallo will be gone.

nice...but imagine that with Wil as the 6th man

yeah that'd be nice but you're talking about a very expensive ($60 million dollar) 6th man.

Odom is only making 8.2M...you think Wil get's more then that? BTW...being on a team with 3 possible all stars (amare, melo and felton) being 6th man otf the year isn't exactly a consolation prize

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1/6/2011  11:59 AM
Rookie wrote:
SlimChin wrote:
Rookie wrote:
SlimChin wrote:i don't know about the whole roster, but how about this for starting five:

PG-Felton
SG-Fields
PF-STAT
SF-Melo
C-Gasol

this is assuming that Wil and Gallo will be gone.

nice...but imagine that with Wil as the 6th man

yeah that'd be nice but you're talking about a very expensive ($60 million dollar) 6th man.

Odom is only making 8.2M...you think Wil get's more then that? BTW...being on a team with 3 possible all stars (amare, melo and felton) being 6th man otf the year isn't exactly a consolation prize

Chandler might seek a five-year deal worth $60 million

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1/6/2011  12:03 PM
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Rookie wrote:
SlimChin wrote:
Rookie wrote:
SlimChin wrote:i don't know about the whole roster, but how about this for starting five:

PG-Felton
SG-Fields
PF-STAT
SF-Melo
C-Gasol

this is assuming that Wil and Gallo will be gone.

nice...but imagine that with Wil as the 6th man

yeah that'd be nice but you're talking about a very expensive ($60 million dollar) 6th man.

Odom is only making 8.2M...you think Wil get's more then that? BTW...being on a team with 3 possible all stars (amare, melo and felton) being 6th man otf the year isn't exactly a consolation prize

Chandler might seek a five-year deal worth $60 million

I did read that somewhere...think i'll wait to see what he does in the playoff's before i would go there

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1/6/2011  12:06 PM
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Rookie wrote:should probably add...with Melo in the starting line-up...having Melo 'lite' as a 6th man would be a nice option...but with the mayor's ability to play the 2 and 4, it does give MDA plenty to work with. Also...if Gallo at 6'-10" could start to play the 4, there is another option for him as a starter to spread the floor.....the only real question I have is how MDA uses his centers. Considering the option of starting small and then bringing in a center off the bench to add defense for the second team is a definite possibilty....

Option 1
G) Felton
G) Fields
F) Melo
F) Gallo
C) Amare

bench....wilson, douglass, Turiaf or Mozgoz and maybe even williams if they can find a way to keep him or Randolph

Option 2
G) Felton
G) Chandler
F) Melo
F) Gallo
C) Amare

bench....Fields, douglass, Turiaf or Mozgoz and maybe even williams if they can find a way to keep him or Randolph

Option 3
G) Felton
G) Fields
F) Melo
F) Amare
C) Turiaf or Mozgoz

etc..............

Sub in Chandler for Fields on Option 3 and you have a deal.
I'm not crazy about playing Gallo and Melo at the Forward spots with Amare in the middle. We need some more toughness up front.

with Gallo, Fields and Douglass off the bench....

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1/6/2011  12:19 PM
You could get this

Felton
Fields
Melo
Chandler
Amare

While using Gallo and AR to help clear out Mozgov and Turiaf. Figure you get picks and expirings back in those deals and your draft would build the bench. That's possible.

The tipping point to me is this; can you get Chandler to extend for Matthew's deal? If he wants more than that, I'd try and sign & trade him or just let him go. If chandler wants five years at $60M... see ya. I'll take my chances with Mike D'Antoni's penchant for turning any 6'8" dude into a star.

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1/6/2011  12:31 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:You could get this

Felton
Fields
Melo
Chandler
Amare

While using Gallo and AR to help clear out Mozgov and Turiaf. Figure you get picks and expirings back in those deals and your draft would build the bench. That's possible.

The tipping point to me is this; can you get Chandler to extend for Matthew's deal? If he wants more than that, I'd try and sign & trade him or just let him go. If chandler wants five years at $60M... see ya. I'll take my chances with Mike D'Antoni's penchant for turning any 6'8" dude into a star.

yeah that's definitely a formidable starting five and i can actually see that happening. my only worry is, that's still a small—ball team albeit a great one. We get killed on the boards now but hey what the knicks lack in size, they make up in slashing offense i guess.

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1/6/2011  12:34 PM
SlimChin wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:You could get this

Felton
Fields
Melo
Chandler
Amare

While using Gallo and AR to help clear out Mozgov and Turiaf. Figure you get picks and expirings back in those deals and your draft would build the bench. That's possible.

The tipping point to me is this; can you get Chandler to extend for Matthew's deal? If he wants more than that, I'd try and sign & trade him or just let him go. If chandler wants five years at $60M... see ya. I'll take my chances with Mike D'Antoni's penchant for turning any 6'8" dude into a star.

yeah that's definitely a formidable starting five and i can actually see that happening. my only worry is, that's still a small—ball team albeit a great one. We get killed on the boards now but hey what the knicks lack in size, they make up in slashing offense i guess.

For me, that team never gets past Miami.

You have to do it differently.

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1/6/2011  12:34 PM
Rookie wrote:
SlimChin wrote:i don't know about the whole roster, but how about this for starting five:

PG-Felton
SG-Fields
PF-STAT
SF-Melo
C-Gasol

this is assuming that Wil and Gallo will be gone.

nice...but imagine that with Wil as the 6th man

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Chandler is not going to be a 6th man. He is going to be a starter. he won't be paid 9 million to come off the bench. Why do you continue to put Chandler on the bench when he can take his talents some place else.

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1/6/2011  12:41 PM
martin wrote:
SlimChin wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:You could get this

Felton
Fields
Melo
Chandler
Amare

While using Gallo and AR to help clear out Mozgov and Turiaf. Figure you get picks and expirings back in those deals and your draft would build the bench. That's possible.

The tipping point to me is this; can you get Chandler to extend for Matthew's deal? If he wants more than that, I'd try and sign & trade him or just let him go. If chandler wants five years at $60M... see ya. I'll take my chances with Mike D'Antoni's penchant for turning any 6'8" dude into a star.

yeah that's definitely a formidable starting five and i can actually see that happening. my only worry is, that's still a small—ball team albeit a great one. We get killed on the boards now but hey what the knicks lack in size, they make up in slashing offense i guess.

For me, that team never gets past Miami.

You have to do it differently.

with Melo in the lineup they'll make it tough for Miami but yeah, i recall last time they played the heat, Z single-handedly grabbed like every rebound with relative ease it seemed like.

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1/6/2011  1:14 PM
How about this?

Big Baby - $8 mil per
Amare
Chandler - $8 mil per
Fields
Felton

Gallo
Moz
Turiaf
TD
AR - trade for a #1 - draft is loaded with forwards to back up our wings

That would be a front court rotation I would put up against anyone not wearing purple and gold. You're taking the C's down a peg in the process.

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1/6/2011  2:36 PM
the only realistic way to accomodate both Wilson & Melo on the same roster is if you somehow get Melo in a trade using Fields, Gallo & AR.
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1/6/2011  2:41 PM
TMS wrote:the only realistic way to accomodate both Wilson & Melo on the same roster is if you somehow get Melo in a trade using Fields, Gallo & AR.

please God? My dad seems to think the reason for Donnie's Havlicek comparison was to pump up his trade value. We both love Fields and want to see him develop but if Denver bites on that package and the Knick can resign Chill, it's a no-brainer

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1/6/2011  2:52 PM
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TMS wrote:the only realistic way to accomodate both Wilson & Melo on the same roster is if you somehow get Melo in a trade using Fields, Gallo & AR.

please God? My dad seems to think the reason for Donnie's Havlicek comparison was to pump up his trade value. We both love Fields and want to see him develop but if Denver bites on that package and the Knick can resign Chill, it's a no-brainer

keep Fields! my gut tells me we'll have more regrets giving up Fields than Chandler...

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1/6/2011  2:53 PM
TMS wrote:the only realistic way to accomodate both Wilson & Melo on the same roster is if you somehow get Melo in a trade using Fields, Gallo & AR.

Is it?

Amare:  18.2
Felton: 7.5
Gallo: 4.2
Moz: 2.6
Will: 6.3 (cap hold)
AR: 2.9
TD: 1.1
Andy: 0.8
LF: 0.8

Total: 44.4M

If the cap stays the same at 58M, the knicks would have to drop another 3-4M maybe. AR and Moz could be traded to clear salary. Gallo could be traded to clear salary. I don't think it would be too difficult to afford both if that is what the knicks really wanted.

Turiaf would have to opt out in this situation as well.

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1/6/2011  2:55 PM
TMS wrote:the only realistic way to accomodate both Wilson & Melo on the same roster is if you somehow get Melo in a trade using Fields, Gallo & AR.

throw in bird man!

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1/6/2011  2:59 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/6/2011  3:02 PM
Andrew wrote:
TMS wrote:the only realistic way to accomodate both Wilson & Melo on the same roster is if you somehow get Melo in a trade using Fields, Gallo & AR.

Is it?

Amare:  18.2
Felton: 7.5
Gallo: 4.2
Moz: 2.6
Will: 6.3 (cap hold)
AR: 2.9
TD: 1.1
Andy: 0.8
LF: 0.8

Total: 44.4M

If the cap stays the same at 58M, the knicks would have to drop another 3-4M maybe. AR and Moz could be traded to clear salary. Gallo could be traded to clear salary. I don't think it would be too difficult to afford both if that is what the knicks really wanted.

Turiaf would have to opt out in this situation as well.

in that scenario...think you could use AR and/or Gallo to help move Turiaf....and also give us a 1st rd pick

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1/6/2011  3:01 PM
Andrew wrote:
TMS wrote:the only realistic way to accomodate both Wilson & Melo on the same roster is if you somehow get Melo in a trade using Fields, Gallo & AR.

Is it?

Amare:  18.2
Felton: 7.5
Gallo: 4.2
Moz: 2.6
Will: 6.3 (cap hold)
AR: 2.9
TD: 1.1
Andy: 0.8
LF: 0.8

Total: 44.4M

If the cap stays the same at 58M, the knicks would have to drop another 3-4M maybe. AR and Moz could be traded to clear salary. Gallo could be traded to clear salary. I don't think it would be too difficult to afford both if that is what the knicks really wanted.

Turiaf would have to opt out in this situation as well.

it is... do u think Turiaf is gonna opt out? i don't... i think he likes it here... maybe if we work out a contract extension for him at lower dollars we can knock off about $1M off his salary for next season, but that's not gonna help much.

we can also trade Gallo, AR, Moz & TD for expirings at the deadline but how likely is that? do u think it's a smart play to dump those guys months in advance of even knowing if Melo is going to sign here or not?

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1/6/2011  3:04 PM
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TMS wrote:the only realistic way to accomodate both Wilson & Melo on the same roster is if you somehow get Melo in a trade using Fields, Gallo & AR.

please God? My dad seems to think the reason for Donnie's Havlicek comparison was to pump up his trade value. We both love Fields and want to see him develop but if Denver bites on that package and the Knick can resign Chill, it's a no-brainer

i agree... i love Landry too but u don't pass up a chance to get a player of Melo's calibre to keep him... i would have no problem using Wilson as part of a trade to get Melo & holding onto Fields either... as long as we can keep 1 of our top 3 young players & still get Melo in the fold, i think it's a no brainer for us to do.

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1/6/2011  3:08 PM
Gallo, AR and Moz could be moved to another team that has cap space during the FA period if we know Melo wants to sign. Moz is a non guaranteed contract I think and could be released if needed. The cap number could go up a couple million next year. All of these are realistic scenarios IMO.
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1/6/2011  3:08 PM
SlimChin wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
TMS wrote:the only realistic way to accomodate both Wilson & Melo on the same roster is if you somehow get Melo in a trade using Fields, Gallo & AR.

please God? My dad seems to think the reason for Donnie's Havlicek comparison was to pump up his trade value. We both love Fields and want to see him develop but if Denver bites on that package and the Knick can resign Chill, it's a no-brainer

keep Fields! my gut tells me we'll have more regrets giving up Fields than Chandler...

Fields may end up better than Chill, but Chandler is closer to fully developing as a player. I'd rather hold onto him because of where Amar'e, Felton, and Melo are in their careers

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