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1/6/2011  12:53 PM
Finestrg wrote:Let me ask a stupid question I should probably already know the answer to -- I know we can't deal away our 1st rounder in two consecutive years -- what if involved getting another draft pick in the same draft, either a better pick or a worse pick? Still can't do it?

remember there are no stupid questions - unless nyk4ever's asking them.

it's my understanding that that's ok. you have to have one #1 pick in every other draft - doesn't have to be your original pick.

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1/6/2011  1:01 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/6/2011  1:02 PM
Marv wrote:
Finestrg wrote:Let me ask a stupid question I should probably already know the answer to -- I know we can't deal away our 1st rounder in two consecutive years -- what if involved getting another draft pick in the same draft, either a better pick or a worse pick? Still can't do it?

remember there are no stupid questions - unless nyk4ever's asking them.

it's my understanding that that's ok. you have to have one #1 pick in every other draft - doesn't have to be your original pick.

Is that right? I assumed you'd have to keep your own and trade the imported pick.
Maybe that's why we can "swap" picks.

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1/6/2011  2:10 PM
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Nalod wrote:fine,

Dude, I don't read your stuff. Its too long.

I appreciate the effort.

Can't imagine you get all that from one game.

I did read the Casspi thing a few days ago. Dude is Israeli.

Amare wants the pregame meal kosher also.

Add him, with Gallo and, bring in Yi, and Patty Mills and we'll most of the bases covered.

do we have Euro- and Asia- russia covered?

Well Yi Jianlin will be a free agent....United Nations Knicks

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1/6/2011  2:23 PM
Aside from Felton and Amar'e, there are no Knick players that are untradeable. I mean really once you have your star player, you can pretty much find guys that can play roles at similar levels and function fine. That's just the facts. The core of your team is usually 2-3 key players and everyone else is gonna be replaceable as there are guys in the league that specialize in certain things and would fit the bill perfectly. It's no knock on Gallo to say that he's replaceable, cuz it's just the truth. I love Gallo, but let's be real here. If you replaced him with another equally capable 3pt shooter, for the most part i'm sure the offense would work about the same. Now defensively that would depend on the size and ability of the replacement, but so long as they aren't horrid on D and real small I think we'd be able to survive trading Gallo or anyone else not named Felton or Amar'e or Chandler now. I think Chandler has moved up into that fairly key to what we do spot. He's the next best player on the team after Felton/Amar'e. We wanted to know who would step up into that role and Chan is the guy.
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1/6/2011  3:30 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/6/2011  4:04 PM
nixluva wrote:Aside from Felton and Amar'e, there are no Knick players that are untradeable. I mean really once you have your star player, you can pretty much find guys that can play roles at similar levels and function fine. That's just the facts. The core of your team is usually 2-3 key players and everyone else is gonna be replaceable as there are guys in the league that specialize in certain things and would fit the bill perfectly. It's no knock on Gallo to say that he's replaceable, cuz it's just the truth. I love Gallo, but let's be real here. If you replaced him with another equally capable 3pt shooter, for the most part i'm sure the offense would work about the same. Now defensively that would depend on the size and ability of the replacement, but so long as they aren't horrid on D and real small I think we'd be able to survive trading Gallo or anyone else not named Felton or Amar'e or Chandler now. I think Chandler has moved up into that fairly key to what we do spot. He's the next best player on the team after Felton/Amar'e. We wanted to know who would step up into that role and Chan is the guy.

Well said..No agrument here. Amar'e & Ray are the two most important pieces right now..I mean Chandler, AR and Fields are 3 other guys I would really hate to lose but I pretty much agree with what you're saying..

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1/6/2011  5:33 PM
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TMS wrote:
Finestrg wrote:I read about those rumors concerning Casspi too. He's a pretty good player -- I think overall Gallo's better & might be a little more highly thought of around the league though..What I think we really need to find out for certain right now, if we don't already know, is how DEN really feels about Gallinari..If they don't like him at all and will never repond favorably to taking him back in any Melo deal, even if Melo pushes this to the limit, then if and when we move him, I'd do it to move up in this summer's lottery along with our own #1 to get the player I really wanted..That's the type of Gallo deal I'm looking at right now..SAC most likely gets the top pick or at least top 5 -- their not moving that for anything less than Blake Griffin..

i agree Gallo's definitely better but it leaves me to wonder what DW has up his sleeve if he's inquiring about bringing in Casspi... if the Knicks feel that Melo is no longer an option & they are happy w/what Wilson is giving them, maybe they look to trade Gallo to bring in some frontcourt depth & look at Casspi as a fill in substitute for Gallo's role in this offense? or maybe they're closer to a Melo deal than we think? it's gonna be interesting to see what happens, but Casspi is an intriguing option off the bench if Gallo is dealt by the deadline.

Good call..Something like Gallo & EC's expiring for Dalembert & Casspi maybe? We get the upgrade in the middle right now to go as far as we can go this year then just let Dalembert expire next year and reload while gaining around $2M more in cap space for next summer..Hey maybe..I think I might want a little more than that for Gallo though (we'd only have Casspi to show for dealing Gallo in the end of that trade by next summer)...I'd love to get Whiteside but I doubt SAC lets him go (they might be looking at him to be the backup for Cousins next year in the middle after Dalembert's gone and Cousins takes over the 5 full-time)..I also doubt D'Antoni would have the amount of patience necessary to develop a guy like Whiteside..Maybe something like EC/Gallo and cash for Dalembert/Landry, their 2011 2nd rounder and a future 1??? We get even more frontcourt help for this year's team and even more cap space for next summer, plus their high 2 and a future 1...That might be too much to give up from SAC's end..Not sure what would be equal value if we pawned off Gallo to the Kings to be honest..Is something built around Thompson and their 2011 2 fair value in exchange for Gallinari? I might be interested in that.. Would Sac?

Yeah, but that extra $2 million might be the difference between signing Melo and keeping chandler, which would be the homerun situation.

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1/6/2011  5:59 PM
I thought that if you have traded away your #1 pick the following year you can only draft a player of the other team's choosing and then trade his rights. Like we got Douglas from the Lakers.
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