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SupremeCommander
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1/5/2011  3:23 PM
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JohnWallace44 wrote:Gallo is not the instant offense you want off the bench.

agreed... some games it takes him until the 3rd quarter to get going... that's not what you want as your 6th man energizer off the bench.

Why not see if he can develop that mindset? His direction would be to attack at all times on the second unit. I think if it works it will really help his development

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1/5/2011  3:26 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
TMS wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:Gallo is not the instant offense you want off the bench.

agreed... some games it takes him until the 3rd quarter to get going... that's not what you want as your 6th man energizer off the bench.

Why not see if he can develop that mindset? His direction would be to attack at all times on the second unit. I think if it works it will really help his development

i'm more comfortable w/Wilson coming off the bench as the 6th man than Gallo... i prefer Wilson's versatility in that role... our team has had success w/him in that role before.

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1/5/2011  3:28 PM
TMS wrote:
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TMS wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:Gallo is not the instant offense you want off the bench.

agreed... some games it takes him until the 3rd quarter to get going... that's not what you want as your 6th man energizer off the bench.

Why not see if he can develop that mindset? His direction would be to attack at all times on the second unit. I think if it works it will really help his development

i'm more comfortable w/Wilson coming off the bench as the 6th man than Gallo... i prefer Wilson's versatility in that role... our team has had success w/him in that role before.

Wilson has excelled in that role before, yes, but I think he's playing great and deserves to start. I would like Gallo to develop that killer instint and think the second unit is a good place to work on it/see if he has the capability

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1/5/2011  3:31 PM
If Gallo can become a 17 point scoring 6th man off the bench--and no reason why he cant--we can focus our FA money on the spot we need most C. I DO need MORE out of T Douglas--I know he is injured--but for him to own a position in the top 8 he needs to provide more efficiency in many aspects of his game. Id rather have Mayo than Douglas etc...
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1/5/2011  4:03 PM
There is no way teacher's pet will be coming off the bench.
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1/5/2011  4:08 PM
Vmart wrote:There is no way teacher's pet will be coming off the bench.

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1/5/2011  4:09 PM
Sign Nene. Keep Wilson. Bring Gallo and Turiaf off the bench. Gallo can be our Kukoc.

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1/5/2011  4:10 PM
umynot wrote:Gallo would KILL in second unit.......

If we keep starting games off like we did last night while Gallo is gone
I say lets try it...

Either way Gallo gets 35 minutes a game!!

not sure.. he is not a guy who is a gunner.. he is a ballplayer.. he needs touches, to be in the flow, he is not one of these come off the bench cold shooters.... honestly, I like him as a ball mover first and then scorer second, he is much better player doing this...

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1/5/2011  4:13 PM
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Vmart wrote:There is no way teacher's pet will be coming off the bench.

iSergio's grumpy brother anti- anything MDA Vmart.

I'm huge MDA fan, what is wrong with you. I'm just not into the way he treats his players. I find his handling of players to be of extreme. Gallo is the opposite of AR. Gallo can do no wrong and AR can do no right. Once you go into the dog house there is no way back into the rotation. The next step is basically off the team.
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1/5/2011  4:19 PM
Vmart wrote:
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Vmart wrote:There is no way teacher's pet will be coming off the bench.

iSergio's grumpy brother anti- anything MDA Vmart.

I'm huge MDA fan, what is wrong with you. I'm just not into the way he treats his players. I find his handling of players to be of extreme. Gallo is the opposite of AR. Gallo can do no wrong and AR can do no right. Once you go into the dog house there is no way back into the rotation. The next step is basically off the team.

what are all of the right things that you saw when AR was playing?

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martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:
martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:There is no way teacher's pet will be coming off the bench.

iSergio's grumpy brother anti- anything MDA Vmart.

I'm huge MDA fan, what is wrong with you. I'm just not into the way he treats his players. I find his handling of players to be of extreme. Gallo is the opposite of AR. Gallo can do no wrong and AR can do no right. Once you go into the dog house there is no way back into the rotation. The next step is basically off the team.

what are all of the right things that you saw when AR was playing?

A young kid learning a new system takes time. Instead MDA pretty much gave up on him and put AR out to pasture. There were many things AR did that were good, he blocked some shots he played well enough to contribute minutes off the bench and should be doing so. Yet MDA is pretty much reduced any trade value that AR has. Sure he made mistakes I'm not denying mistakes made but I do think that Gallo made mistakes and his mistakes are overlooked. How poorly did Gallo play while playing with that injured arm, yet he was allowed and given a chance. AR no such luck to build on any good that he did but faulted for any mistakes made. MDA has a double standard.
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1/5/2011  5:10 PM
Vmart wrote:
martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:
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Vmart wrote:There is no way teacher's pet will be coming off the bench.

iSergio's grumpy brother anti- anything MDA Vmart.

I'm huge MDA fan, what is wrong with you. I'm just not into the way he treats his players. I find his handling of players to be of extreme. Gallo is the opposite of AR. Gallo can do no wrong and AR can do no right. Once you go into the dog house there is no way back into the rotation. The next step is basically off the team.

what are all of the right things that you saw when AR was playing?

A young kid learning a new system takes time. Instead MDA pretty much gave up on him and put AR out to pasture. There were many things AR did that were good, he blocked some shots he played well enough to contribute minutes off the bench and should be doing so. Yet MDA is pretty much reduced any trade value that AR has. Sure he made mistakes I'm not denying mistakes made but I do think that Gallo made mistakes and his mistakes are overlooked. How poorly did Gallo play while playing with that injured arm, yet he was allowed and given a chance. AR no such luck to build on any good that he did but faulted for any mistakes made. MDA has a double standard.

you have some weird goggles you are looking through. When Gallo had a hurt wrist, he did not get playing time. At the end if the 3-8 stretch it was Gallo who stepped up and pushed the Knicks to wins.

AR has been more of a detriment to the team when he was on the floor.

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1/5/2011  6:44 PM
Vmart wrote:
martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:
martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:There is no way teacher's pet will be coming off the bench.

iSergio's grumpy brother anti- anything MDA Vmart.

I'm huge MDA fan, what is wrong with you. I'm just not into the way he treats his players. I find his handling of players to be of extreme. Gallo is the opposite of AR. Gallo can do no wrong and AR can do no right. Once you go into the dog house there is no way back into the rotation. The next step is basically off the team.

what are all of the right things that you saw when AR was playing?

A young kid learning a new system takes time. Instead MDA pretty much gave up on him and put AR out to pasture. There were many things AR did that were good, he blocked some shots he played well enough to contribute minutes off the bench and should be doing so. Yet MDA is pretty much reduced any trade value that AR has. Sure he made mistakes I'm not denying mistakes made but I do think that Gallo made mistakes and his mistakes are overlooked. How poorly did Gallo play while playing with that injured arm, yet he was allowed and given a chance. AR no such luck to build on any good that he did but faulted for any mistakes made. MDA has a double standard.


Randolph did struggle some but it was apparent pretty early on that he was going to be the guy the coach scrutinized and screamed at. Being the youngest guy on the team, coming back from an injury and in a new situation didn't seem to matter where he was concerned. Too bad he wasn't given the opportunity Mozgov got. Nothing against Timofey but I think you try to develop a 21 year old lottery pick at least as much as a 24 year old rookie free agent signing.
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1/5/2011  7:12 PM
with this current cast of players, gallo should be starting. turiaf's deficiencies are much better matched up against a 2nd unit big man where he can help more on defense and his rebounding issues are less of a problem.
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1/5/2011  8:16 PM
MDA treated AR like a piece of chewing gum. Stuck him under the desk to get dry and hard. Who wants a piece of try hard gum after its been chewed out?
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1/5/2011  8:49 PM
I actually agree with Gallo coming off the bench. He always tends to start games slow, so I'm all for it. Also wouldn't mind seeing Gallo handle the ball some more with 2nd unit. Giving Felton more of a rest.

I'm not the biggest buyer of Carmelo (not bc he isn't great) but bc in 2012 Dwight Howard could be available...which would equal championship!

All we need this season is a starting Center like Marcus Camby (who's contract ends bf 2012 free agent class) Maybe we get a Mills thrown in as a back-up point guard and we have a possible conference finals team.
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1/5/2011  8:53 PM
Ironically, I was listening to the radio while driving earlier today and someone called into the Michael Kay show with this exact idea. Kay basically said it doesn't make sense because Gallo is hot and cold at times, and off the bench, you really want someone who can turn it on in a moments notice, so it makes more sense to have him starting. I kinda agree with this. Also, Gallo benefits the most by being in there with our best players, since it gives him the most space to shoot.
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1/5/2011  9:22 PM
Gonna be tough to sit him any way we slice it, but the trade deadline could have an impact.

If Walsh is planning a power move for Melo or whoever, we've got to keep both Chandler and Gallo starting in order to get peak value. You'd think that having either one come off the bench, even as a 6th man has to decrease value, as opposed to a legit starting-caliber player.

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gr33d wrote:Gonna be tough to sit him any way we slice it, but the trade deadline could have an impact.

If Walsh is planning a power move for Melo or whoever, we've got to keep both Chandler and Gallo starting in order to get peak value. You'd think that having either one come off the bench, even as a 6th man has to decrease value, as opposed to a legit starting-caliber player.

It only has decreased value to fans. Do you think Lebron James value in the league would have dropped if Cleveland had him as their 6th man last year? If a guy puts in 30-35 quality minutes it doesn't matter if those minutes are as a starter or as 6th man. This is a fan thought that a move to the bench is a demotion

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Bippity10 wrote:
gr33d wrote:Gonna be tough to sit him any way we slice it, but the trade deadline could have an impact.

If Walsh is planning a power move for Melo or whoever, we've got to keep both Chandler and Gallo starting in order to get peak value. You'd think that having either one come off the bench, even as a 6th man has to decrease value, as opposed to a legit starting-caliber player.

It only has decreased value to fans. Do you think Lebron James value in the league would have dropped if Cleveland had him as their 6th man last year? If a guy puts in 30-35 quality minutes it doesn't matter if those minutes are as a starter or as 6th man. This is a fan thought that a move to the bench is a demotion


Hell, if anything, being able to start and/or come of the bench would increase the trade value of that player in the eyes of a team looking at him, since it would give any team that wanted him greater flexibility in terms of planning and optimizing their rotation.
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